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RE: [Doepfer_a100] New poll for Doepfer_a100

2003-03-26 by David Salter

Define advanced.
 
regards
 
 

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	Would you like Doepfer to make an 
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	Regarding more detailed layout we will 
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	  o Yes, an advanced one 
	  o Yes, but only a basic dual attenuator 
	  o Yes, but only a simple single 
	  o Not sure 
	  o No 
	
	
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Re: New poll for Doepfer_a100

2003-03-26 by code_pig

I've put a JPG in the files section 
(http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Doepfer_a100/files/offset_module_1.jpg)
 of what I'd be quite happy with.

Regards,
Kevin

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> Define advanced.
>  
> regards
>  
>  
> 
> David Salter 
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> Tel: +44 20 7542 2402 
> Mob: +44 7990562402 
> Fax: +44 20 7542 2699 
> 
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> 	Doepfer_a100 group:
> 	
> 	Would you like Doepfer to make an 
> 	attenutator module?
> 	
> 	Regarding more detailed layout we will 
> 	conduct a later survey about that. 
> 	
> 	  o Yes, an advanced one 
> 	  o Yes, but only a basic dual attenuator 
> 	  o Yes, but only a simple single 
> 	  o Not sure 
> 	  o No 
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Re: New poll for Doepfer_a100

2003-03-26 by Joe Buechler

Good idea for the indicator LEDs! I'd still rather have two attenuated 
inputs on the top half, as in my .gif file. I think it would be more 
useful than the multi outputs. (I'm thinking two random LFOs plus 
offset voltage to the A156, for example.)

Joe

--- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "code_pig" <code_pig@y...> wrote:
> I've put a JPG in the files section 
> 
(http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Doepfer_a100/files/offset_module_1.jpg)
>  of what I'd be quite happy with.
> 
> Regards,
> Kevin
> 
> --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, David Salter 
<david.salter@r...> 
> wrote:
> > Define advanced.
> >  
> > regards
> >  
> >  
> > 
> > David Salter 
> > Reuters Consulting 
> > Tel: +44 20 7542 2402 
> > Mob: +44 7990562402 
> > Fax: +44 20 7542 2699 
> > 
> > 	-----Original Message-----
> > 	From: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
> > [mailto:Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com] 
> > 	Sent: 25 March 2003 18:42
> > 	To: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
> > 	Subject: [Doepfer_a100] New poll for Doepfer_a100
> > 	
> > 	
> > 	
> > 	Enter your vote today!  A new poll has been created for the 
> > 	Doepfer_a100 group:
> > 	
> > 	Would you like Doepfer to make an 
> > 	attenutator module?
> > 	
> > 	Regarding more detailed layout we will 
> > 	conduct a later survey about that. 
> > 	
> > 	  o Yes, an advanced one 
> > 	  o Yes, but only a basic dual attenuator 
> > 	  o Yes, but only a simple single 
> > 	  o Not sure 
> > 	  o No 
> > 	
> > 	
> > 	To vote, please visit the following web page:
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The definition of a new attenuator

2003-03-26 by Andreas Lindholm

David Salter asked for a definition of the advanced attenutator  in the
poll. Since it is a vast majority that is pro an attenuator it is perhaps
time to start diskussion of the features.

As I see it this sketch from Kevin is a very good suggestion that falls
somewhere between what I had in mind as a basic or advanced attenutator.


> I've put a JPG in the files section
> (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Doepfer_a100/files/offset_module_1.jpg)
>  of what I'd be quite happy with.

I actually find this proposed module so good that I think it should be made
as it is. Others have proposed ability to use it for audio purposes and that
wouldn't be bad. For me audiocapability is one thing that I would definitly
sort into the advanced version. Further more I think an advanced version
should have an output limit switch so you can be sure that it never boost
the signal about say 10 volts and risk blowing other modules with it.

I like the proposed a133 from Kevin in its setup with one in and three out
cause it suits me, but I can also see that other options could be good so
perhaps a good compromise could be to do as with the 180. The buyer can
choose if he wants it configured as 2-2 or 1-3 for each attenuator.

Final word lets say Kevins proposal is the basic dual alternative 2.
Everybody that want more features than is proposed please for for
alternative 1. As for if it is possible to put in a knob in 4 or 6 width I
am not sure, but it seemed to fit when I glanced at the surface. But perhaps
the backside needs more space. Perhaps it could be a knob as the one used
for range selection in the vcos?

Perhaps in the end we will get a whole range of attenuators. The ideal would
be a slim single, the proposed dual and an advanced attenuator with voltage
control, audio capability and max output switch?
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> Regards,
> Kevin
>
> --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, David Salter <david.salter@r...>
> wrote:
> > Define advanced.
> >
> > regards
> >
> >
> >
> > David Salter
> > Reuters Consulting
> > Tel: +44 20 7542 2402
> > Mob: +44 7990562402
> > Fax: +44 20 7542 2699
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
> > [mailto:Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com]
> > Sent: 25 March 2003 18:42
> > To: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [Doepfer_a100] New poll for Doepfer_a100
> >
> >
> >
> > Enter your vote today!  A new poll has been created for the
> > Doepfer_a100 group:
> >
> > Would you like Doepfer to make an
> > attenutator module?
> >
> > Regarding more detailed layout we will
> > conduct a later survey about that.
> >
> >   o Yes, an advanced one
> >   o Yes, but only a basic dual attenuator
> >   o Yes, but only a simple single
> >   o Not sure
> >   o No
> >
> >
> > To vote, please visit the following web page:
> >
> > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Doepfer_a100/surveys?
> id=11076862
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Re: The definition of a new attenuator

2003-03-26 by code_pig

Andreas,

Thanks very much for the vote of confidence.  I've taken what you 
said and tried to incorporate it into the propossed module.  You'll 
find the results here: 
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Doepfer_a100/files/offset_module_2.jpg


Regards,
Kevin

--- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "Andreas Lindholm" 
<andreas.k.lindholm@t...> wrote:
> David Salter asked for a definition of the advanced attenutator  in 
the
> poll. Since it is a vast majority that is pro an attenuator it is 
perhaps
> time to start diskussion of the features.
> 
> As I see it this sketch from Kevin is a very good suggestion that 
falls
> somewhere between what I had in mind as a basic or advanced 
attenutator.
> 
> 
> > I've put a JPG in the files section
> > 
(http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Doepfer_a100/files/offset_module_1.jpg)
> >  of what I'd be quite happy with.
> 
> I actually find this proposed module so good that I think it should 
be made
> as it is. Others have proposed ability to use it for audio purposes 
and that
> wouldn't be bad. For me audiocapability is one thing that I would 
definitly
> sort into the advanced version. Further more I think an advanced 
version
> should have an output limit switch so you can be sure that it never 
boost
> the signal about say 10 volts and risk blowing other modules with 
it.
> 
> I like the proposed a133 from Kevin in its setup with one in and 
three out
> cause it suits me, but I can also see that other options could be 
good so
> perhaps a good compromise could be to do as with the 180. The buyer 
can
> choose if he wants it configured as 2-2 or 1-3 for each attenuator.
> 
> Final word lets say Kevins proposal is the basic dual alternative 2.
> Everybody that want more features than is proposed please for for
> alternative 1. As for if it is possible to put in a knob in 4 or 6 
width I
> am not sure, but it seemed to fit when I glanced at the surface. 
But perhaps
> the backside needs more space. Perhaps it could be a knob as the 
one used
> for range selection in the vcos?
> 
> Perhaps in the end we will get a whole range of attenuators. The 
ideal would
> be a slim single, the proposed dual and an advanced attenuator with 
voltage
> control, audio capability and max output switch?
> 
> >
> > Regards,
> > Kevin
> >
> > --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, David Salter 
<david.salter@r...>
> > wrote:
> > > Define advanced.
> > >
> > > regards
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > David Salter
> > > Reuters Consulting
> > > Tel: +44 20 7542 2402
> > > Mob: +44 7990562402
> > > Fax: +44 20 7542 2699
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
> > > [mailto:Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com]
> > > Sent: 25 March 2003 18:42
> > > To: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
> > > Subject: [Doepfer_a100] New poll for Doepfer_a100
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Enter your vote today!  A new poll has been created for the
> > > Doepfer_a100 group:
> > >
> > > Would you like Doepfer to make an
> > > attenutator module?
> > >
> > > Regarding more detailed layout we will
> > > conduct a later survey about that.
> > >
> > >   o Yes, an advanced one
> > >   o Yes, but only a basic dual attenuator
> > >   o Yes, but only a simple single
> > >   o Not sure
> > >   o No
> > >
> > >
> > > To vote, please visit the following web page:
> > >
> > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Doepfer_a100/surveys?
> > id=11076862
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Re: The definition of a new attenuator

2003-03-26 by code_pig

How about leaving the Range feature labelled simply "L/M/H", and then 
have jumpers inside to select the range?

Regards,
Kevin

--- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "Andreas Lindholm" 
<andreas.k.lindholm@t...> wrote:
> Not bad. You are fast Kevin :) That seems like a good module, but 
I'd rather
> have + 12 or + 15 than 2.5 or is it 25? Cause some other brands of 
modulars
> and old synths use higher gatevalues and it is good to have a 
module that
> gaps that span I think. I like to mix my gear as much as possible.
> 
> So as it is now the later (included audio capability) makes the new 
advanced
> version in the survey. One more advanced and one basic attenuator 
in the
> same module. Nice.
> 
> /Andreas
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "code_pig" <code_pig@y...>
> To: <Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2003 8:28 PM
> Subject: [Doepfer_a100] Re: The definition of a new attenuator
> 
> 
> > Andreas,
> >
> > Thanks very much for the vote of confidence.  I've taken what you
> > said and tried to incorporate it into the propossed module.  
You'll
> > find the results here:
> > 
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Doepfer_a100/files/offset_module_2.jpg
> >
> >
> > Regards,
> > Kevin
> >
> > --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "Andreas Lindholm"
> > <andreas.k.lindholm@t...> wrote:
> > > David Salter asked for a definition of the advanced 
attenutator  in
> > the
> > > poll. Since it is a vast majority that is pro an attenuator it 
is
> > perhaps
> > > time to start diskussion of the features.
> > >
> > > As I see it this sketch from Kevin is a very good suggestion 
that
> > falls
> > > somewhere between what I had in mind as a basic or advanced
> > attenutator.
> > >
> > >
> > > > I've put a JPG in the files section
> > > >
> > 
(http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Doepfer_a100/files/offset_module_1.jpg)
> > > >  of what I'd be quite happy with.
> > >
> > > I actually find this proposed module so good that I think it 
should
> > be made
> > > as it is. Others have proposed ability to use it for audio 
purposes
> > and that
> > > wouldn't be bad. For me audiocapability is one thing that I 
would
> > definitly
> > > sort into the advanced version. Further more I think an advanced
> > version
> > > should have an output limit switch so you can be sure that it 
never
> > boost
> > > the signal about say 10 volts and risk blowing other modules 
with
> > it.
> > >
> > > I like the proposed a133 from Kevin in its setup with one in and
> > three out
> > > cause it suits me, but I can also see that other options could 
be
> > good so
> > > perhaps a good compromise could be to do as with the 180. The 
buyer
> > can
> > > choose if he wants it configured as 2-2 or 1-3 for each 
attenuator.
> > >
> > > Final word lets say Kevins proposal is the basic dual 
alternative 2.
> > > Everybody that want more features than is proposed please for 
for
> > > alternative 1. As for if it is possible to put in a knob in 4 
or 6
> > width I
> > > am not sure, but it seemed to fit when I glanced at the surface.
> > But perhaps
> > > the backside needs more space. Perhaps it could be a knob as the
> > one used
> > > for range selection in the vcos?
> > >
> > > Perhaps in the end we will get a whole range of attenuators. The
> > ideal would
> > > be a slim single, the proposed dual and an advanced attenuator 
with
> > voltage
> > > control, audio capability and max output switch?
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > > Kevin
> > > >
> > > > --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, David Salter
> > <david.salter@r...>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > Define advanced.
> > > > >
> > > > > regards
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > David Salter
> > > > > Reuters Consulting
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> > > > > Mob: +44 7990562402
> > > > > Fax: +44 20 7542 2699
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Re: [Doepfer_a100] Re: The definition of a new attenuator

2003-03-26 by Andreas Lindholm

Not bad. You are fast Kevin :) That seems like a good module, but I'd rather
have + 12 or + 15 than 2.5 or is it 25? Cause some other brands of modulars
and old synths use higher gatevalues and it is good to have a module that
gaps that span I think. I like to mix my gear as much as possible.

So as it is now the later (included audio capability) makes the new advanced
version in the survey. One more advanced and one basic attenuator in the
same module. Nice.

/Andreas


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Subject: [Doepfer_a100] Re: The definition of a new attenuator


> Andreas,
>
> Thanks very much for the vote of confidence.  I've taken what you
> said and tried to incorporate it into the propossed module.  You'll
> find the results here:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Doepfer_a100/files/offset_module_2.jpg
>
>
> Regards,
> Kevin
>
> --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "Andreas Lindholm"
> <andreas.k.lindholm@t...> wrote:
> > David Salter asked for a definition of the advanced attenutator  in
> the
> > poll. Since it is a vast majority that is pro an attenuator it is
> perhaps
> > time to start diskussion of the features.
> >
> > As I see it this sketch from Kevin is a very good suggestion that
> falls
> > somewhere between what I had in mind as a basic or advanced
> attenutator.
> >
> >
> > > I've put a JPG in the files section
> > >
> (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Doepfer_a100/files/offset_module_1.jpg)
> > >  of what I'd be quite happy with.
> >
> > I actually find this proposed module so good that I think it should
> be made
> > as it is. Others have proposed ability to use it for audio purposes
> and that
> > wouldn't be bad. For me audiocapability is one thing that I would
> definitly
> > sort into the advanced version. Further more I think an advanced
> version
> > should have an output limit switch so you can be sure that it never
> boost
> > the signal about say 10 volts and risk blowing other modules with
> it.
> >
> > I like the proposed a133 from Kevin in its setup with one in and
> three out
> > cause it suits me, but I can also see that other options could be
> good so
> > perhaps a good compromise could be to do as with the 180. The buyer
> can
> > choose if he wants it configured as 2-2 or 1-3 for each attenuator.
> >
> > Final word lets say Kevins proposal is the basic dual alternative 2.
> > Everybody that want more features than is proposed please for for
> > alternative 1. As for if it is possible to put in a knob in 4 or 6
> width I
> > am not sure, but it seemed to fit when I glanced at the surface.
> But perhaps
> > the backside needs more space. Perhaps it could be a knob as the
> one used
> > for range selection in the vcos?
> >
> > Perhaps in the end we will get a whole range of attenuators. The
> ideal would
> > be a slim single, the proposed dual and an advanced attenuator with
> voltage
> > control, audio capability and max output switch?
> >
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Kevin
> > >
> > > --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, David Salter
> <david.salter@r...>
> > > wrote:
> > > > Define advanced.
> > > >
> > > > regards
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > David Salter
> > > > Reuters Consulting
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> > > > attenutator module?
> > > >
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> > > > conduct a later survey about that.
> > > >
> > > >   o Yes, an advanced one
> > > >   o Yes, but only a basic dual attenuator
> > > >   o Yes, but only a simple single
> > > >   o Not sure
> > > >   o No
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Revote

2003-03-26 by Andreas Lindholm

I edited the poll to go after Kevins excellent sketches so please vote again
now for more clarity.

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Doepfer_a100/surveys?id=11076862


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Subject: [Doepfer_a100] Re: The definition of a new attenuator


> Andreas,
>
> Thanks very much for the vote of confidence.  I've taken what you
> said and tried to incorporate it into the propossed module.  You'll
> find the results here:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Doepfer_a100/files/offset_module_2.jpg
>
>
> Regards,
> Kevin
>
> --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "Andreas Lindholm"
> <andreas.k.lindholm@t...> wrote:
> > David Salter asked for a definition of the advanced attenutator  in
> the
> > poll. Since it is a vast majority that is pro an attenuator it is
> perhaps
> > time to start diskussion of the features.
> >
> > As I see it this sketch from Kevin is a very good suggestion that
> falls
> > somewhere between what I had in mind as a basic or advanced
> attenutator.
> >
> >
> > > I've put a JPG in the files section
> > >
> (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Doepfer_a100/files/offset_module_1.jpg)
> > >  of what I'd be quite happy with.
> >
> > I actually find this proposed module so good that I think it should
> be made
> > as it is. Others have proposed ability to use it for audio purposes
> and that
> > wouldn't be bad. For me audiocapability is one thing that I would
> definitly
> > sort into the advanced version. Further more I think an advanced
> version
> > should have an output limit switch so you can be sure that it never
> boost
> > the signal about say 10 volts and risk blowing other modules with
> it.
> >
> > I like the proposed a133 from Kevin in its setup with one in and
> three out
> > cause it suits me, but I can also see that other options could be
> good so
> > perhaps a good compromise could be to do as with the 180. The buyer
> can
> > choose if he wants it configured as 2-2 or 1-3 for each attenuator.
> >
> > Final word lets say Kevins proposal is the basic dual alternative 2.
> > Everybody that want more features than is proposed please for for
> > alternative 1. As for if it is possible to put in a knob in 4 or 6
> width I
> > am not sure, but it seemed to fit when I glanced at the surface.
> But perhaps
> > the backside needs more space. Perhaps it could be a knob as the
> one used
> > for range selection in the vcos?
> >
> > Perhaps in the end we will get a whole range of attenuators. The
> ideal would
> > be a slim single, the proposed dual and an advanced attenuator with
> voltage
> > control, audio capability and max output switch?
> >
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Kevin
> > >
> > > --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, David Salter
> <david.salter@r...>
> > > wrote:
> > > > Define advanced.
> > > >
> > > > regards
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > David Salter
> > > > Reuters Consulting
> > > > Tel: +44 20 7542 2402
> > > > Mob: +44 7990562402
> > > > Fax: +44 20 7542 2699
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
> > > > [mailto:Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com]
> > > > Sent: 25 March 2003 18:42
> > > > To: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
> > > > Subject: [Doepfer_a100] New poll for Doepfer_a100
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Enter your vote today!  A new poll has been created for the
> > > > Doepfer_a100 group:
> > > >
> > > > Would you like Doepfer to make an
> > > > attenutator module?
> > > >
> > > > Regarding more detailed layout we will
> > > > conduct a later survey about that.
> > > >
> > > >   o Yes, an advanced one
> > > >   o Yes, but only a basic dual attenuator
> > > >   o Yes, but only a simple single
> > > >   o Not sure
> > > >   o No
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > To vote, please visit the following web page:
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Re: The definition of a new attenuator

2003-03-26 by code_pig

Right.  I've done one last image 
(http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Doepfer_a100/files/offset_module_2.jpg)
, that incorporates a CV function in the lower channel.

I'm not convinced that using a rotary selector knob (ala the Range 
selector on the VCO's), as it would probably drive the price up.

Also, if the module was made wider and more complex, the development 
costs woule rise, as would the retail price.  

The way I see it, not every module should be all singing and all 
dancing.  Sometimes simple "meat and potato" modules, which are often 
relatively inexpensive to develop and manufacture, fund the 
development of the more exotic modules.

Regards,
Kevin


--- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "Andreas Lindholm" 
<andreas.k.lindholm@t...> wrote:
> Not a bad idea. Can you also manage to squeeze in an input for 
voltage
> controlled attenuation on the lower "channel" on the advanced 
version? or
> perhaps make the advaced module a bit wider and cram in all 
features on
> both?
> 
> The alterantive to that is to have the advanced version look more 
like the
> rest of the doepfer range that is a range selector, a attenuate 
level knob,
> the offset knob and one cv input jack for attenuation and one cv 
inputjack
> for the offset. And to top that of one input for the input signal 
on the top
> and two output of the attenuated signal att the bottom and your 
nice LEDs.
> This of course means that the CVcontrolled-attenuator will be just 
a single
> channel attenuator, but a complex one.
>

Re: The definition of a new attenuator

2003-03-26 by code_pig

Sorry, but the correct link is 
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Doepfer_a100/files/offset_module_3.jpg

Regards,
Kevin

--- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "code_pig" <code_pig@y...> wrote:
> Right.  I've done one last image 
> 
(http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Doepfer_a100/files/offset_module_2.jpg)
> , that incorporates a CV function in the lower channel.
> 
> I'm not convinced that using a rotary selector knob (ala the Range 
> selector on the VCO's), as it would probably drive the price up.
> 
> Also, if the module was made wider and more complex, the 
development 
> costs woule rise, as would the retail price.  
> 
> The way I see it, not every module should be all singing and all 
> dancing.  Sometimes simple "meat and potato" modules, which are 
often 
> relatively inexpensive to develop and manufacture, fund the 
> development of the more exotic modules.
> 
> Regards,
> Kevin
> 
> 
> --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "Andreas Lindholm" 
> <andreas.k.lindholm@t...> wrote:
> > Not a bad idea. Can you also manage to squeeze in an input for 
> voltage
> > controlled attenuation on the lower "channel" on the advanced 
> version? or
> > perhaps make the advaced module a bit wider and cram in all 
> features on
> > both?
> > 
> > The alterantive to that is to have the advanced version look more 
> like the
> > rest of the doepfer range that is a range selector, a attenuate 
> level knob,
> > the offset knob and one cv input jack for attenuation and one cv 
> inputjack
> > for the offset. And to top that of one input for the input signal 
> on the top
> > and two output of the attenuated signal att the bottom and your 
> nice LEDs.
> > This of course means that the CVcontrolled-attenuator will be 
just 
Show quoted textHide quoted text
> a single
> > channel attenuator, but a complex one.
> >

Re: [Doepfer_a100] Re: The definition of a new attenuator

2003-03-26 by Andreas Lindholm

Not a bad idea. Can you also manage to squeeze in an input for voltage
controlled attenuation on the lower "channel" on the advanced version? or
perhaps make the advaced module a bit wider and cram in all features on
both?

The alterantive to that is to have the advanced version look more like the
rest of the doepfer range that is a range selector, a attenuate level knob,
the offset knob and one cv input jack for attenuation and one cv inputjack
for the offset. And to top that of one input for the input signal on the top
and two output of the attenuated signal att the bottom and your nice LEDs.
This of course means that the CVcontrolled-attenuator will be just a single
channel attenuator, but a complex one.


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Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2003 9:12 PM
Subject: [Doepfer_a100] Re: The definition of a new attenuator


> How about leaving the Range feature labelled simply "L/M/H", and then
> have jumpers inside to select the range?
>
> Regards,
> Kevin
>
> --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "Andreas Lindholm"
> <andreas.k.lindholm@t...> wrote:
> > Not bad. You are fast Kevin :) That seems like a good module, but
> I'd rather
> > have + 12 or + 15 than 2.5 or is it 25? Cause some other brands of
> modulars
> > and old synths use higher gatevalues and it is good to have a
> module that
> > gaps that span I think. I like to mix my gear as much as possible.
> >
> > So as it is now the later (included audio capability) makes the new
> advanced
> > version in the survey. One more advanced and one basic attenuator
> in the
> > same module. Nice.
> >
> > /Andreas
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "code_pig" <code_pig@y...>
> > To: <Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2003 8:28 PM
> > Subject: [Doepfer_a100] Re: The definition of a new attenuator
> >
> >
> > > Andreas,
> > >
> > > Thanks very much for the vote of confidence.  I've taken what you
> > > said and tried to incorporate it into the propossed module.
> You'll
> > > find the results here:
> > >
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Doepfer_a100/files/offset_module_2.jpg
> > >
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Kevin
> > >
> > > --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "Andreas Lindholm"
> > > <andreas.k.lindholm@t...> wrote:
> > > > David Salter asked for a definition of the advanced
> attenutator  in
> > > the
> > > > poll. Since it is a vast majority that is pro an attenuator it
> is
> > > perhaps
> > > > time to start diskussion of the features.
> > > >
> > > > As I see it this sketch from Kevin is a very good suggestion
> that
> > > falls
> > > > somewhere between what I had in mind as a basic or advanced
> > > attenutator.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > I've put a JPG in the files section
> > > > >
> > >
> (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Doepfer_a100/files/offset_module_1.jpg)
> > > > >  of what I'd be quite happy with.
> > > >
> > > > I actually find this proposed module so good that I think it
> should
> > > be made
> > > > as it is. Others have proposed ability to use it for audio
> purposes
> > > and that
> > > > wouldn't be bad. For me audiocapability is one thing that I
> would
> > > definitly
> > > > sort into the advanced version. Further more I think an advanced
> > > version
> > > > should have an output limit switch so you can be sure that it
> never
> > > boost
> > > > the signal about say 10 volts and risk blowing other modules
> with
> > > it.
> > > >
> > > > I like the proposed a133 from Kevin in its setup with one in and
> > > three out
> > > > cause it suits me, but I can also see that other options could
> be
> > > good so
> > > > perhaps a good compromise could be to do as with the 180. The
> buyer
> > > can
> > > > choose if he wants it configured as 2-2 or 1-3 for each
> attenuator.
> > > >
> > > > Final word lets say Kevins proposal is the basic dual
> alternative 2.
> > > > Everybody that want more features than is proposed please for
> for
> > > > alternative 1. As for if it is possible to put in a knob in 4
> or 6
> > > width I
> > > > am not sure, but it seemed to fit when I glanced at the surface.
> > > But perhaps
> > > > the backside needs more space. Perhaps it could be a knob as the
> > > one used
> > > > for range selection in the vcos?
> > > >
> > > > Perhaps in the end we will get a whole range of attenuators. The
> > > ideal would
> > > > be a slim single, the proposed dual and an advanced attenuator
> with
> > > voltage
> > > > control, audio capability and max output switch?
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Regards,
> > > > > Kevin
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, David Salter
> > > <david.salter@r...>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > Define advanced.
> > > > > >
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> > > > > >
> > > > > >
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Re: [Doepfer_a100] Re: The definition of a new attenuator

2003-03-27 by Andreas Lindholm

I agree with you on that not every module has to have everything and that is
exactly why it is good that we can have many proposed modules and vote about
it. And as I wrote earlier perhaps one day we can have both a high end and a
standard attenuator so we can all choose what suits us best. Making the
module wider and more complex probably makes it more expensive of course. So
lets just all sketch up as many possible versions and vote about it all and
then perhaps Doepfer could step in and give us estimated prices for a final
vote. The need seems to be here.



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Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2003 10:40 PM
Subject: [Doepfer_a100] Re: The definition of a new attenuator


> Right.  I've done one last image
> (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Doepfer_a100/files/offset_module_2.jpg)
> , that incorporates a CV function in the lower channel.
>
> I'm not convinced that using a rotary selector knob (ala the Range
> selector on the VCO's), as it would probably drive the price up.
>
> Also, if the module was made wider and more complex, the development
> costs woule rise, as would the retail price.
>
> The way I see it, not every module should be all singing and all
> dancing.  Sometimes simple "meat and potato" modules, which are often
> relatively inexpensive to develop and manufacture, fund the
> development of the more exotic modules.
>
> Regards,
> Kevin
>
>
> --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "Andreas Lindholm"
> <andreas.k.lindholm@t...> wrote:
> > Not a bad idea. Can you also manage to squeeze in an input for
> voltage
> > controlled attenuation on the lower "channel" on the advanced
> version? or
> > perhaps make the advaced module a bit wider and cram in all
> features on
> > both?
> >
> > The alterantive to that is to have the advanced version look more
> like the
> > rest of the doepfer range that is a range selector, a attenuate
> level knob,
> > the offset knob and one cv input jack for attenuation and one cv
> inputjack
> > for the offset. And to top that of one input for the input signal
> on the top
> > and two output of the attenuated signal att the bottom and your
> nice LEDs.
> > This of course means that the CVcontrolled-attenuator will be just
> a single
> > channel attenuator, but a complex one.
> >
>
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Re: The definition of a new attenuator

2003-03-27 by selfoscillate

maybe because a mixer has only one output and you would
need two a138, one a176, one a180 and maybe one a175
for the same task. the suggested module is something
like a space- and moneysaver.

best wishes

self oscillate


--- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, Florian Anwander 
<Florian.Anwander@c...> wrote:
> Hi Kevin
> 
> > 
(http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Doepfer_a100/files/offset_module_2.jpg)
> I still do not understand what for you need such a module, if you 
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> 
> Florian

Re: The definition of a new attenuator

2003-03-27 by code_pig

Got it it one, S.O.  It's a bit of a low cost, Swiss army knife 
module.  In the past I've always had a number of these types of 
modules (i.e. non-Doepfer systems), as they come in very handy as an 
attenuated mult.

Regards,
Kevin

--- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "selfoscillate" 
<synaptic_music@y...> wrote:
> 
> maybe because a mixer has only one output and you would
> need two a138, one a176, one a180 and maybe one a175
> for the same task. the suggested module is something
> like a space- and moneysaver.
> 
> best wishes
> 
> self oscillate
> 
> 
> --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, Florian Anwander 
> <Florian.Anwander@c...> wrote:
> > Hi Kevin
> > 
> > > 
> 
(http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Doepfer_a100/files/offset_module_2.jpg)
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> > I still do not understand what for you need such a module, if you 
> have
> > mixers.
> > 
> > Florian

Dual Logic Module

2003-03-27 by jmaddocks1975

Hi all,
What's this dual logic module all about?
I've read about it on the doepfer website but could do with a better 
explanation, anyone got one? :-D
Any example patches I could use it for?


Thanks
John.

Re: Dual Logic Module

2003-03-27 by Joe Buechler

Hey John

The best application I've thought of for the logic module would be to 
use it to combine outputs of the Clock Divider to create gate 
durationss that aren't divisible by two.

For example, suppose you want the A150 to switch between the top 
and bottom rows of the A155 sequencer, but you only want it to 
happen every 4th repetition instead of every other repetition - to 
create an AAAB pattern. Similarly you could create an ABBB pattern.

A good brain teaser would be to figure out how to switch the 
A156 transposition voltages for a 12-bar blues pattern.

Joe
--- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "jmaddocks1975" 
<jmaddocks1975@y...> wrote:
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> Hi all,
> What's this dual logic module all about?
> I've read about it on the doepfer website but could do with a better 
> explanation, anyone got one? :-D
> Any example patches I could use it for?
> 
> 
> Thanks
> John.

Re: Dual Logic Module

2003-03-30 by ilanode

Hi John, Got my A166 yesterday and it's already one of my favorite 
modules. Based on Boolean logic it's great in conjunction with the 
A160 and A161 to create rhythmical pattern from a simple clock 
signal. Using the different outputs and the inverter will enable you 
to get different patterns which are interwoven and thus coming up 
with a quite interesting rhythmical structure. 

On how it works: Whenever all inputs receive a positive signal the 
AND output will send a clock/trigger signal. (Any level greater than 
2 V is defined as a positive siganl.) If one or two of the three 
inputs receive a signal there will be a clock/trigger signal at the 
OR and XOR output. Exception: if all three inputs get a signal at 
the same time only the OR output pass a signal. The inputs are 
normalized enbbling you to combine 2 as well as 3 signals. Since you 
have 2 units it makes sense to make use of both of them within the 
very same patch.

Actually there is pdf file on the Doepfer site including a patch. I 
couldn't open it today but did so a few days ago so it should be a 
temporary problem.
Regards Ilanode

--- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "jmaddocks1975" 
<jmaddocks1975@y...> wrote:
> Hi all,
> What's this dual logic module all about?
> I've read about it on the doepfer website but could do with a 
better 
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> explanation, anyone got one? :-D
> Any example patches I could use it for?
> 
> 
> Thanks
> John.

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