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2005-03-10 by ethanzer0
--- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "Paul Wagorn" <pwagorn@p...> wrote: > > It seems to me that being able to switch the 155 over to a 16 step in stead You can do this easily with the clock A-160 clock divider and an A- 150 VC Switch. E
2005-03-10 by ethanzer0
> Also, it's a pain to have to patch that up > every time you want to switch back & forth. If patching is a pain, buy the A-154 and a second A-155 and have it done for you automagically behind the scenes.
2005-03-10 by Paul Wagorn
It seems to me that being able to switch the 155 over to a 16 step in stead of dual 8 is fairly straightforward using 2 other modules. Rather than have to rig this up every time one would want to use 16 steps, I was thinking that it may be a very simple thing to rig up an adapter with a couple of logic IC's for less than $1 to duplicate this functionality. This 'adapter' would & would save using a couple of modules to perform this simple task, and would make it quicker to switch between 8 & 16 steps. Of course this could all me mounted in the sequencer, but a little adapter box would do just as wel (perhaps there will be a version of the 155 with a switch like this built in one day?) Has anyone tried to make anything like this? Or does everyone just use (or buy id they don't already have) the extra modules & leave them dedicated to this purpose? I was thinking of making something like this, but would love to hear from anyone else who has tied the same. Paul
2005-03-10 by ethanzer0
--- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "Paul Wagorn" <pwagorn@p...> wrote: > Yes. it's more having to buy or use 2 modules when $1 adapter can do the > job. What is this $1 adapter you keep refering to? Does it even exist?
2005-03-10 by Paul Wagorn
Ugh. Sorry for all the typos on that one I'm having keybloard problems ;) /p _____
From: Paul Wagorn [mailto:pwagorn@pinc.com] Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2005 11:18 AM To: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Doepfer_a100] 16 step on 155 adapter It seems to me that being able to switch the 155 over to a 16 step in stead of dual 8 is fairly straightforward using 2 other modules. Rather than have to rig this up every time one would want to use 16 steps, I was thinking that it may be a very simple thing to rig up an adapter with a couple of logic IC's for less than $1 to duplicate this functionality. This 'adapter' would & would save using a couple of modules to perform this simple task, and would make it quicker to switch between 8 & 16 steps. Of course this could all me mounted in the sequencer, but a little adapter box would do just as wel (perhaps there will be a version of the 155 with a switch like this built in one day?) Has anyone tried to make anything like this? Or does everyone just use (or buy id they don't already have) the extra modules & leave them dedicated to this purpose? I was thinking of making something like this, but would love to hear from anyone else who has tied the same. Paul Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT <http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=1296jj8fh/M=298184.6018725.7038619.3001176/D=gr plch/S=1705032144:HM/EXP=1110568687/A=2593423/R=0/SIG=11el9gslf/*http:/www.n etflix.com/Default?mqso=60190075> click here <http://us.adserver.yahoo.com/l?M=298184.6018725.7038619.3001176/D=grplch/S= :HM/A=2593423/rand=105126000> _____ Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Doepfer_a100/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: Doepfer_a100-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com <mailto:Doepfer_a100-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com?subject=Unsubscribe> * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/> Terms of Service. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2005-03-10 by Paul Wagorn
Yes, I know - it covers that in the manual. I've already done this actually. Instead of dedicating 2 modules simply to do this job, I was thinking you could probably build something with $1 worth of IC's & free up those modules for other things. Also, it's a pain to have to patch that up every time you want to switch back & forth. I was interested in hearing from people who have done this or thought about out it. _____
From: ethanzer0 [mailto:ethanzer0@yahoo.com] Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2005 12:04 PM To: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Doepfer_a100] Re: 16 step on 155 adapter --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "Paul Wagorn" <pwagorn@p...> wrote: > > It seems to me that being able to switch the 155 over to a 16 step in stead You can do this easily with the clock A-160 clock divider and an A- 150 VC Switch. E Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT <http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=12954qd9j/M=298184.6018725.7038619.3001176/D=gr plch/S=1705032144:HM/EXP=1110571463/A=2593423/R=0/SIG=11el9gslf/*http:/www.n etflix.com/Default?mqso=60190075> click here <http://us.adserver.yahoo.com/l?M=298184.6018725.7038619.3001176/D=grplch/S= :HM/A=2593423/rand=583966704> _____ Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Doepfer_a100/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: Doepfer_a100-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com <mailto:Doepfer_a100-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com?subject=Unsubscribe> * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/> Terms of Service. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2005-03-10 by ethanzer0
> Haha. Maybe you should re-read the intial post. I did. It doesn't sound like such a thing exists. But you keep insisting that this $1.00 thingy is the way to go. You could hang out on the Synth D.I.Y list. I'm sure those guys would love to help you.
2005-03-10 by Paul Wagorn
Yes. it's more having to buy or use 2 modules when $1 adapter can do the job. But like I said, at the risk of repeating myself. I understand the alternatives, simply looking to see if anyone else... _____
From: ethanzer0 [mailto:ethanzer0@yahoo.com] Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2005 12:13 PM To: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Doepfer_a100] Re: 16 step on 155 adapter > Also, it's a pain to have to patch that up > every time you want to switch back & forth. If patching is a pain, buy the A-154 and a second A-155 and have it done for you automagically behind the scenes. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT <http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=1298m1rjf/M=298184.6018725.7038619.3001176/D=gr plch/S=1705032144:HM/EXP=1110572061/A=2593423/R=0/SIG=11el9gslf/*http:/www.n etflix.com/Default?mqso=60190075> click here <http://us.adserver.yahoo.com/l?M=298184.6018725.7038619.3001176/D=grplch/S= :HM/A=2593423/rand=659177778> _____ Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Doepfer_a100/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: Doepfer_a100-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com <mailto:Doepfer_a100-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com?subject=Unsubscribe> * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/> Terms of Service. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2005-03-10 by Paul Wagorn
>What is this $1 adapter you keep refering to? Does it even exist? Haha. Maybe you should re-read the intial post. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2005-03-10 by polygen01
hmm...shouldn't be very complicated in theory, but i think practically you'll need power to do it (and some sort of casing to house the parts, obviously). switching between two signals in dependency of a third on/off type signal could be done with a relay or possibly with one/two transistors...but you'd need power for this. so you've got 1) cv 1 2) cv 2 3) 8/16 select 4) ground 5) +V 6) -V ...kind a thick cable :/ .....i think you'd be better of with modules and pre-patching them with the normalling-switches in the sockets l8a d
2005-03-10 by Paul Wagorn
No that is incorrect.,I said that something could be built with about $1 worth of IC's. I was looking to find someone else who had done this before I went & did it myself. _____
From: ethanzer0 [mailto:ethanzer0@yahoo.com] Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2005 1:12 PM To: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Doepfer_a100] Re: 16 step on 155 adapter > Haha. Maybe you should re-read the intial post. I did. It doesn't sound like such a thing exists. But you keep insisting that this $1.00 thingy is the way to go. You could hang out on the Synth D.I.Y list. I'm sure those guys would love to help you. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT <http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=12969duiv/M=298184.6018725.7038619.3001176/D=gr plch/S=1705032144:HM/EXP=1110575575/A=2593423/R=0/SIG=11el9gslf/*http:/www.n etflix.com/Default?mqso=60190075> click here <http://us.adserver.yahoo.com/l?M=298184.6018725.7038619.3001176/D=grplch/S= :HM/A=2593423/rand=732835692> _____ Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Doepfer_a100/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: Doepfer_a100-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com <mailto:Doepfer_a100-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com?subject=Unsubscribe> * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/> Terms of Service. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2005-03-10 by Paul Wagorn
I think it could be done entirely with ttl chips, no? a 9v battery should power it fine. This is sort of what I had in mind. The 'adapter' would have 3 or 4 cables coming out of it to plug into the appropriate plugs on the 155. TTL chips are almost free. The most expensive thing would be the 1/8" connectors I think! Normalling them is a neat idea - good point, never really thought of that. but I guess that means those 2 modules can't be used with the 16 step sequences. I'm sort of surprised that the 155 doesn't have a simple switch for this. I'm sure it would have been very easy to implement into the design & add practically nothing to the cost, but I'm sure there were reasons why not. Hmmm.. (paul keeps thinking) _____
From: polygen01 [mailto:q-art@gmx.net] Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2005 1:41 PM To: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Doepfer_a100] Re: 16 step on 155 adapter hmm...shouldn't be very complicated in theory, but i think practically you'll need power to do it (and some sort of casing to house the parts, obviously). switching between two signals in dependency of a third on/off type signal could be done with a relay or possibly with one/two transistors...but you'd need power for this. so you've got 1) cv 1 2) cv 2 3) 8/16 select 4) ground 5) +V 6) -V ...kind a thick cable :/ .....i think you'd be better of with modules and pre-patching them with the normalling-switches in the sockets l8a d Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT <http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=1292ksbbb/M=298184.6018725.7038619.3001176/D=gr plch/S=1705032144:HM/EXP=1110577296/A=2593423/R=0/SIG=11el9gslf/*http:/www.n etflix.com/Default?mqso=60190075> click here <http://us.adserver.yahoo.com/l?M=298184.6018725.7038619.3001176/D=grplch/S= :HM/A=2593423/rand=405231860> _____ Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Doepfer_a100/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: Doepfer_a100-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com <mailto:Doepfer_a100-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com?subject=Unsubscribe> * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/> Terms of Service. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2005-03-11 by Tim Stinchcombe
Hi Paul, This should be quite easy to do: the divided-down clock signal is actually already available in the A-155, as an unused pin (on the CD4024 on the 'controller board'), so you don't need to replicate the A-160; then you'd just need to replicate the A-150, which could be done with a single chip (plus maybe a few diodes and things if you wanted to know which half of the sixteen it was in). The older 150's used the CD4053 (two in fact, but you could make do with just 1), which _are_ cheap; the newer 150's use DG409's which are much more expensive (perhaps maybe ten times so!), but I'm not familar with them (i.e. I don't have a newer 150). A little more thought would probably determine whether it was possible to leave the whole lot permanently wired in, so that you wouldn't need to switch it at all, just hook up to two (new) sockets when you wanted to go to 16 steps. Eminently do-able! Tim --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "Paul Wagorn" <pwagorn@p...> wrote: > > It seems to me that being able to switch the 155 over to a 16 step in stead > of dual 8 is fairly straightforward using 2 other modules. > > Rather than have to rig this up every time one would want to use 16 steps, I > was thinking that it may be a very simple thing to rig up an adapter with a > couple of logic IC's for less than $1 to duplicate this functionality. > > This 'adapter' would & would save using a couple of modules to perform this > simple task, and would make it quicker to switch between 8 & 16 steps. Of > course this could all me mounted in the sequencer, but a little adapter box > would do just as wel (perhaps there will be a version of the 155 with a > switch like this built in one day?) > > Has anyone tried to make anything like this? Or does everyone just use (or > buy id they don't already have) the extra modules & leave them dedicated to > this purpose? > > I was thinking of making something like this, but would love to hear from
> anyone else who has tied the same. > > Paul
2005-03-11 by Paul Wagorn
Great idea! I'm going to try that. thanks! Paul _____
From: Tim Stinchcombe [mailto:timothy@tstinchcombe.freeserve.co.uk] Sent: Friday, March 11, 2005 2:41 PM To: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Doepfer_a100] Re: 16 step on 155 adapter Hi Paul, This should be quite easy to do: the divided-down clock signal is actually already available in the A-155, as an unused pin (on the CD4024 on the 'controller board'), so you don't need to replicate the A-160; then you'd just need to replicate the A-150, which could be done with a single chip (plus maybe a few diodes and things if you wanted to know which half of the sixteen it was in). The older 150's used the CD4053 (two in fact, but you could make do with just 1), which _are_ cheap; the newer 150's use DG409's which are much more expensive (perhaps maybe ten times so!), but I'm not familar with them (i.e. I don't have a newer 150). A little more thought would probably determine whether it was possible to leave the whole lot permanently wired in, so that you wouldn't need to switch it at all, just hook up to two (new) sockets when you wanted to go to 16 steps. Eminently do-able! Tim --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "Paul Wagorn" <pwagorn@p...> wrote: > > It seems to me that being able to switch the 155 over to a 16 step in stead > of dual 8 is fairly straightforward using 2 other modules. > > Rather than have to rig this up every time one would want to use 16 steps, I > was thinking that it may be a very simple thing to rig up an adapter with a > couple of logic IC's for less than $1 to duplicate this functionality. > > This 'adapter' would & would save using a couple of modules to perform this > simple task, and would make it quicker to switch between 8 & 16 steps. Of > course this could all me mounted in the sequencer, but a little adapter box > would do just as wel (perhaps there will be a version of the 155 with a > switch like this built in one day?) > > Has anyone tried to make anything like this? Or does everyone just use (or > buy id they don't already have) the extra modules & leave them dedicated to > this purpose? > > I was thinking of making something like this, but would love to hear from > anyone else who has tied the same. > > Paul Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT <http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=1291b1krj/M=298184.6018725.7038619.3001176/D=gr plch/S=1705032144:HM/EXP=1110667263/A=2593423/R=0/SIG=11el9gslf/*http:/www.n etflix.com/Default?mqso=60190075> click here <http://us.adserver.yahoo.com/l?M=298184.6018725.7038619.3001176/D=grplch/S= :HM/A=2593423/rand=929835940> _____ Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Doepfer_a100/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: Doepfer_a100-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com <mailto:Doepfer_a100-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com?subject=Unsubscribe> * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/> Terms of Service. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]