Doepfer

hello,

a few weeks ago patrick requested granular type sound
examples made with an a112, so here they come.

i understand that people want to use the a112 as a
granular device, so just to be clear about it,
the a112 is not a granular device. 
it is just a monophonic 8-bit sampler/wavetable vco
with only two parameters, so you can't do real
granular synthesis with it, but you can apply
very basic granular techniques, when the a112 is
in wavetable mode, in order to mimic a granular
device. the results are often very lo-fi and have
not much in common with stuff generated
with reaktor or dedicated granular software.


1.

ok, first you hear a voice sample played back by the a112
in normal mode. this sample is used for all examples.

http://www.selfoscillate.de/a100files/a112-sample.mp3
filesize: 34 kb


2.

same sample, internal a112 lowpass filter is disabled.

http://www.selfoscillate.de/a100files/a112-sample-nolpf.mp3
filesize: 34 kb


3.

now the a112 is in wavetable playback mode.
the wavetable is selected by a frequency-modulated lfo.

http://www.selfoscillate.de/a100files/a112-varispeed.mp3
filesize: 108 kb


4.

same as above, with some s&h action at the pitch cv input.

http://www.selfoscillate.de/a100files/a112-varispeed+pitch.mp3
filesize: 90 kb


5.

no pitch modulations and a really slow lfo selecting the
wavetable. filtered by an a120 instead of the internal lpf.

http://www.selfoscillate.de/a100files/a112-slow.mp3
filesize: 250 kb


6.

to get closer to granular synthesis, this example
uses various random modulators and additional modules
to fake more granular functionality.
modules used: a112, a118, a120, a131, a138a, a138c,
a141, a145, 2x a147, a148, a149/1, a176, 2x a180

http://www.selfoscillate.de/a100files/a112-allrandom.mp3
filesize: 275 kb


7.

same as above, with different parameter values.

http://www.selfoscillate.de/a100files/a112-allrandom-2.mp3
filesize: 274 kb


hope ya like it.


best wishes

ingo

Hello Ingo! Well done and very helpful! Regards, Ingo

--- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "selfoscillate" 
<synaptic_music@y...> wrote:

> 
> hello,
> 
> a few weeks ago patrick requested granular type sound
> examples made with an a112, so here they come.
> 
> i understand that people want to use the a112 as a
> granular device, so just to be clear about it,
> the a112 is not a granular device. 
> it is just a monophonic 8-bit sampler/wavetable vco
> with only two parameters, so you can't do real
> granular synthesis with it, but you can apply
> very basic granular techniques, when the a112 is
> in wavetable mode, in order to mimic a granular
> device. the results are often very lo-fi and have
> not much in common with stuff generated
> with reaktor or dedicated granular software.
> 
> 
> 1.
> 
> ok, first you hear a voice sample played back by the a112
> in normal mode. this sample is used for all examples.
> 
> http://www.selfoscillate.de/a100files/a112-sample.mp3
> filesize: 34 kb
> 
> 
> 2.
> 
> same sample, internal a112 lowpass filter is disabled.
> 
> http://www.selfoscillate.de/a100files/a112-sample-nolpf.mp3
> filesize: 34 kb
> 
> 
> 3.
> 
> now the a112 is in wavetable playback mode.
> the wavetable is selected by a frequency-modulated lfo.
> 
> http://www.selfoscillate.de/a100files/a112-varispeed.mp3
> filesize: 108 kb
> 
> 
> 4.
> 
> same as above, with some s&h action at the pitch cv input.
> 
> http://www.selfoscillate.de/a100files/a112-varispeed+pitch.mp3
> filesize: 90 kb
> 
> 
> 5.
> 
> no pitch modulations and a really slow lfo selecting the
> wavetable. filtered by an a120 instead of the internal lpf.
> 
> http://www.selfoscillate.de/a100files/a112-slow.mp3
> filesize: 250 kb
> 
> 
> 6.
> 
> to get closer to granular synthesis, this example
> uses various random modulators and additional modules
> to fake more granular functionality.
> modules used: a112, a118, a120, a131, a138a, a138c,
> a141, a145, 2x a147, a148, a149/1, a176, 2x a180
> 
> http://www.selfoscillate.de/a100files/a112-allrandom.mp3
> filesize: 275 kb
> 
> 
> 7.
> 
> same as above, with different parameter values.
> 
> http://www.selfoscillate.de/a100files/a112-allrandom-2.mp3
> filesize: 274 kb
> 
> 
> hope ya like it.
> 
> 
> best wishes
> 
> ingo

--- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, Bakis Sirros 
<synth_freak_2000@y...> wrote:
> 
> 
> --- ilanode <techmeier@w...> wrote:
> 
> > "Hello Ingo! Well done and very helpful! Regards,
> > Ingo"
> 
> 
> my god! somebody, help this man! he's talking to
> himself!


:-)  and i always thought that ingo is not a very common name.

best wishes

ingo

--- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "selfoscillate" 
Well, now Bakis, has confused me. Ingo, did you talk to yourself or 
was it me babbling to myself in front of the monitor? And how can 
Bakis know? Is there a Doepfer Spy Module I havn't heard of? 
Regards, Ingo

<synaptic_music@y...> wrote:

> --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, Bakis Sirros 
> <synth_freak_2000@y...> wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > --- ilanode <techmeier@w...> wrote:
> > 
> > > "Hello Ingo! Well done and very helpful! Regards,
> > > Ingo"
> > 
> > 
> > my god! somebody, help this man! he's talking to
> > himself!
> 
> 
> :-)  and i always thought that ingo is not a very common name.
> 
> best wishes
> 
> ingo

good question, maybe the theremin module with it's antenna
is doing more than we know ;-)

best wishes

ingo



--- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "ilanode" <techmeier@w...> wrote:

> --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "selfoscillate" 
> Well, now Bakis, has confused me. Ingo, did you talk to yourself or 
> was it me babbling to myself in front of the monitor? And how can 
> Bakis know? Is there a Doepfer Spy Module I havn't heard of? 
> Regards, Ingo
> 
> <synaptic_music@y...> wrote:
> > --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, Bakis Sirros 
> > <synth_freak_2000@y...> wrote:
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- ilanode <techmeier@w...> wrote:
> > > 
> > > > "Hello Ingo! Well done and very helpful! Regards,
> > > > Ingo"
> > > 
> > > 
> > > my god! somebody, help this man! he's talking to
> > > himself!
> > 
> > 
> > :-)  and i always thought that ingo is not a very common name.
> > 
> > best wishes
> > 
> > ingo

--- ilanode <techmeier@web.de> wrote:

> "Hello Ingo! Well done and very helpful! Regards,
> Ingo"


my god! somebody, help this man! he's talking to
himself!




> 
> --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "selfoscillate"
> 
> <synaptic_music@y...> wrote:
> > 
> > hello,
> > 
> > a few weeks ago patrick requested granular type
> sound
> > examples made with an a112, so here they come.
> > 
> > i understand that people want to use the a112 as a
> > granular device, so just to be clear about it,
> > the a112 is not a granular device. 
> > it is just a monophonic 8-bit sampler/wavetable
> vco
> > with only two parameters, so you can't do real
> > granular synthesis with it, but you can apply
> > very basic granular techniques, when the a112 is
> > in wavetable mode, in order to mimic a granular
> > device. the results are often very lo-fi and have
> > not much in common with stuff generated
> > with reaktor or dedicated granular software.
> > 
> > 
> > 1.
> > 
> > ok, first you hear a voice sample played back by
> the a112
> > in normal mode. this sample is used for all
> examples.
> > 
> >
>
http://www.selfoscillate.de/a100files/a112-sample.mp3
> > filesize: 34 kb
> > 
> > 
> > 2.
> > 
> > same sample, internal a112 lowpass filter is
> disabled.
> > 
> >
>
http://www.selfoscillate.de/a100files/a112-sample-nolpf.mp3
> > filesize: 34 kb
> > 
> > 
> > 3.
> > 
> > now the a112 is in wavetable playback mode.
> > the wavetable is selected by a frequency-modulated
> lfo.
> > 
> >
>
http://www.selfoscillate.de/a100files/a112-varispeed.mp3
> > filesize: 108 kb
> > 
> > 
> > 4.
> > 
> > same as above, with some s&h action at the pitch
> cv input.
> > 
> >
>
http://www.selfoscillate.de/a100files/a112-varispeed+pitch.mp3
> > filesize: 90 kb
> > 
> > 
> > 5.
> > 
> > no pitch modulations and a really slow lfo
> selecting the
> > wavetable. filtered by an a120 instead of the
> internal lpf.
> > 
> >
> http://www.selfoscillate.de/a100files/a112-slow.mp3
> > filesize: 250 kb
> > 
> > 
> > 6.
> > 
> > to get closer to granular synthesis, this example
> > uses various random modulators and additional
> modules
> > to fake more granular functionality.
> > modules used: a112, a118, a120, a131, a138a,
> a138c,
> > a141, a145, 2x a147, a148, a149/1, a176, 2x a180
> > 
> >
>
http://www.selfoscillate.de/a100files/a112-allrandom.mp3
> > filesize: 275 kb
> > 
> > 
> > 7.
> > 
> > same as above, with different parameter values.
> > 
> >
>
http://www.selfoscillate.de/a100files/a112-allrandom-2.mp3
> > filesize: 274 kb
> > 
> > 
> > hope ya like it.
> > 
> > 
> > best wishes
> > 
> > ingo
> 
> 
> 


Bakis Siros
Parallel Worlds / Polariton
Athens-Greece
[Doepfer_a100] group owner
http://www.shimarecords.co.uk
http://www.ward12.com


		
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seems to have patched a delayed feedback loop in his brain?

hrhr




Am 31.08.2005 um 16:05 schrieb Bakis Sirros:

>
>
>  --- ilanode <techmeier@web.de> wrote:
>
>  > "Hello Ingo! Well done and very helpful! Regards,
>  > Ingo"
>
>
>  my god! somebody, help this man! he's talking to
>  himself!
>
>
>
>
>  >
>  > --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "selfoscillate"
>  >
>  > <synaptic_music@y...> wrote:
>  > >
>  > > hello,
>  > >
>  > > a few weeks ago patrick requested granular type
>  > sound
>  > > examples made with an a112, so here they come.
>  > >
>  > > i understand that people want to use the a112 as a
>  > > granular device, so just to be clear about it,
>  > > the a112 is not a granular device.
>  > > it is just a monophonic 8-bit sampler/wavetable
>  > vco
>  > > with only two parameters, so you can't do real
>  > > granular synthesis with it, but you can apply
>  > > very basic granular techniques, when the a112 is
>  > > in wavetable mode, in order to mimic a granular
>  > > device. the results are often very lo-fi and have
>  > > not much in common with stuff generated
>  > > with reaktor or dedicated granular software.
>  > >
>  > >
>  > > 1.
>  > >
>  > > ok, first you hear a voice sample played back by
>  > the a112
>  > > in normal mode. this sample is used for all
>  > examples.
>  > >
>  > >
>  >
> http://www.selfoscillate.de/a100files/a112-sample.mp3
>  > > filesize: 34 kb
>  > >
>  > >
>  > > 2.
>  > >
>  > > same sample, internal a112 lowpass filter is
>  > disabled.
>  > >
>  > >
>  >
> http://www.selfoscillate.de/a100files/a112-sample-nolpf.mp3
>  > > filesize: 34 kb
>  > >
>  > >
>  > > 3.
>  > >
>  > > now the a112 is in wavetable playback mode.
>  > > the wavetable is selected by a frequency-modulated
>  > lfo.
>  > >
>  > >
>  >
> http://www.selfoscillate.de/a100files/a112-varispeed.mp3
>  > > filesize: 108 kb
>  > >
>  > >
>  > > 4.
>  > >
>  > > same as above, with some s&h action at the pitch
>  > cv input.
>  > >
>  > >
>  >
> http://www.selfoscillate.de/a100files/a112-varispeed+pitch.mp3
>  > > filesize: 90 kb
>  > >
>  > >
>  > > 5.
>  > >
>  > > no pitch modulations and a really slow lfo
>  > selecting the
>  > > wavetable. filtered by an a120 instead of the
>  > internal lpf.
>  > >
>  > >
>  > http://www.selfoscillate.de/a100files/a112-slow.mp3
>  > > filesize: 250 kb
>  > >
>  > >
>  > > 6.
>  > >
>  > > to get closer to granular synthesis, this example
>  > > uses various random modulators and additional
>  > modules
>  > > to fake more granular functionality.
>  > > modules used: a112, a118, a120, a131, a138a,
>  > a138c,
>  > > a141, a145, 2x a147, a148, a149/1, a176, 2x a180
>  > >
>  > >
>  >
> http://www.selfoscillate.de/a100files/a112-allrandom.mp3
>  > > filesize: 275 kb
>  > >
>  > >
>  > > 7.
>  > >
>  > > same as above, with different parameter values.
>  > >
>  > >
>  >
> http://www.selfoscillate.de/a100files/a112-allrandom-2.mp3
>  > > filesize: 274 kb
>  > >
>  > >
>  > > hope ya like it.
>  > >
>  > >
>  > > best wishes
>  > >
>  > > ingo
>  >
>  >
>  >
>
>
>  Bakis Siros
>  Parallel Worlds / Polariton
>  Athens-Greece
>  [Doepfer_a100] group owner
> http://www.shimarecords.co.uk
> http://www.ward12.com
>
>
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I think we're getting closer... Doepfer is not only selling us Spy 
Modules but he also plays his tricks on custom authorities. Now his 
first paragraph of message # 8547 makes a total different read! 
Regards, Ingo
PS I admit I'm listening to Music of the Future by Desmond Leslie

--- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "selfoscillate" 
<synaptic_music@y...> wrote:
> 
> good question, maybe the theremin module with it's antenna
> is doing more than we know ;-)
> 
> best wishes
> 
> ingo
> 
> 
> 
> --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "ilanode" <techmeier@w...> 
wrote:
> > --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "selfoscillate" 
> > Well, now Bakis, has confused me. Ingo, did you talk to yourself 
or 
> > was it me babbling to myself in front of the monitor? And how 
can 

> > Bakis know? Is there a Doepfer Spy Module I havn't heard of? 
> > Regards, Ingo
> > 
> > <synaptic_music@y...> wrote:
> > > --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, Bakis Sirros 
> > > <synth_freak_2000@y...> wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > --- ilanode <techmeier@w...> wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > > "Hello Ingo! Well done and very helpful! Regards,
> > > > > Ingo"
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > my god! somebody, help this man! he's talking to
> > > > himself!
> > > 
> > > 
> > > :-)  and i always thought that ingo is not a very common name.
> > > 
> > > best wishes
> > > 
> > > ingo

Hello?

What does "granular synthesis" mean?

Thanks,

sfrules

hello,

granular synthesis is roughly based on sampling.
the sampled material is chopped into very tiny parts,
called grains. every grain gets an own envelope (to smooth
the edges), pitch and time information, often also some jitter
and offset parameters. the fact that every grain can
play at any time consequently means that more than one
grain can play back at the same time, which is what a
monophonic wavetable device like the a112 cannot do.

with granular synthesis (or better granular resynthesis)
samples can be vaporized into dense sound clouds,
when using noise as modulator.

in the granular resynthesis model pitch and playback speed
are independent from each other, so other obvious applications
are time stretching and pitch/formant shifting.

that is just a very basic explanation, you'll find
more detailed info on the web for sure.

best wishes

ingo



--- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, sfrules <sfrules@t...> wrote:

> Hello?
> 
> What does "granular synthesis" mean?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> sfrules

Thank you very much.

Good explanation...and it sounds like fun!

sfrules

Nice sound examples Ingo!
Makes me sad that there's no Mac software for this module.
Otherwise I would buy it for sure.


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i have a pc and i have never used that software
with the a112. i hate sample archiving ;-)

best wishes

ingo


--- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, achtung_999 
<heinrich.himmelwasser@g...> wrote:

> Nice sound examples Ingo!
> Makes me sad that there's no Mac software for this module.
> Otherwise I would buy it for sure.
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]