Can of worms, here. Leslie sim is a touchy subject for many. It is genuinely a learned-ear concept. That is, just like your favorite string patch makes most classical violinists cringe, a similar leslie sim can be a resounding nails-on-chalkboard to an old gospel or jazz purist. So you gotta know where you fall in there and what you wanna actually accomplish. Also, it is without exception that a sim is gonna be LESS articulate and motive than the real thing. After all, NO speaker or FX box can replicate the physical rotations of the mechanical process. That said, a sim simply hasta be considered and auditioned as a studio device. That is, what would a leslie sound like through microphones and played over these monitors?? Only then can you judge a sim, IMO. And *even* then, they fall decidedly short. The sim in the microB is blunt and clunky, IMO. Remember, too, that it's different from the microBII, which is merely clunky ;-) As halfracks with good-enough sound, they're dandy pieces for pickup gigs, outdoor ordeals, and certainly practice, but may not make muster for your headlining efforts. Admittedly, they once *were* pretty good, really. But like Arp Omni strings, really not quite up to snuff for a more discriminating ear than once was. But for Hammond pads, they'll make nice. They have accel/decel, they have seperate horn/drum speeds (though you can't do much with it) and few other things. The sound is a tad grainy, too. Having the speed ramp and the split hi/lo processing puts it above any synth patch by anyone, but that matters more to that "sounds like a Leslie" bunch more than the "sounds good enough" bunch. If you're into the speed switching, THAT's where it would be more of a strong point than just a well-crafted patch. They're no XK-3, Clavia, or CX-3 by a very long way, but not bad for casual use. But again, through a real leslie, they're dandy ;-) Hope that helps. L. -----Original Message----- From: Bob S. [mailto:tttsystems@...] Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2005 3:56 PM To: Ensoniq-VFX-SD@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Ensoniq-VFX-SD] Best B3/Leslie patches How is the Leslie simulator on the Micro-B ? Bob Corona/Riverside, CA -----Original Message----- From: "EXT-Schurr, Larry A" Sent: Oct 5, 2005 3:04 PM To: Ensoniq-VFX-SD@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Ensoniq-VFX-SD] Best B3/Leslie patches A Casio through a Leslie sounds more like a B3 than a Hammond through a motionless PA speaker. This whole deal hits home for me. My main axe is a homebuilt FrankenClone based on a Voce V3and runs through my homebrew Bride of FrankenLeslie speaks (the rig description is long ;-) I have a micro-B and micro-BII, also but they don't get out much. In Frank is also a Kurzweil microPiano. I throw the VFX-SD on top for all the great synth sounds that Frank doesn't do, so getting a B3 on the Ensoniq isn't gonna get it for me ;-) If a guy hadda MS pro3, then the microB should sound dandy and give you more flexibility than relying strictly on the VFX. I'm sure there's one or two "Hammond sounds" the VFX can do better, but overall, I'd give the nod to the microB. Add on a set of Voce drawbars and it'll become REAL apparent. L. -----Original Message----- From: JDM Zangari [mailto:zanjdm30@...] Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2005 12:53 PM To: Ensoniq-VFX-SD@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Ensoniq-VFX-SD] Best B3/Leslie patches Bill, I have a Micro B II and the sounds are good (GOOD). I found that I use my ensoniq settings (both SD-1 and TS) and not the Voce unit. In my opinion the real sound of the B-3 is found more in the Leslie, than in the sample/patch. I picked up a motion sound pro3tm (it has a rotating horn) and using stock patches veterans in my band jaws dropped. For what it's worth, Joe Zangari Ringtown ----- Original Message ----- From: bldn10 <mailto:zerospam@...> To: Ensoniq-VFX-SD@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2005 12:39 PM Subject: [Ensoniq-VFX-SD] Best B3/Leslie patches What are the best B3 w/ Leslie patches you guys have come up w/? I'm looking for factory or modified factory patches. Has anyone done any tweaking and created a better mousetrap? If not, what is a good B3 emulation that is affordable? I just lost a Voce Micro-B II on ebay for $240 - is that the most bang for the buck? 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RE: [Ensoniq-VFX-SD] Best B3/Leslie patches
2005-10-06 by EXT-Schurr, Larry A