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Re: Pitch bend trick.

Re: Pitch bend trick.

2000-12-14 by Nathan I Smutz

Thanks Suzanne.  If I had been smart I would have just figured out the
right envelope setting and pitch shifted that way.  I'm no master
synthesist. I'm concerned that I sounded like a smarty pants in my last
post.  

It seems that there is more going on besides the use of a different part
of the multi sample.  Pitch shifters do some pretty fancy processing
don't they.  I thought the distortion you get when you shift up an octave
(and tranpose back down) is interesting.  This seems like it could be due
to a loss of resolution.  I would expect a loss of resolution pitch
shifting downward rather than upward.  At higher pitches, the sample rate
is closer to the pitch of the sound and each sample would be a greater
part of the wave.   

By the way, do we have a policy about uuencoded patches in posts?  I
should have asked this before I attached my patch last time.  Sorry.  It
looks like the attachment got filtered out anyway.  If anyone's
interested in the patch, I can send it to you.

Soli Deo Gloria,
Nathan
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Re: [Ensoniq-VFX-SD] Re: Pitch bend trick.

2000-12-14 by Suzanne Archibald

At 02:52 AM 12/14/00, you wrote:
>Thanks Suzanne.  If I had been smart I would have just figured out the
>right envelope setting and pitch shifted that way.  I'm no master
>synthesist. I'm concerned that I sounded like a smarty pants in my last
>post.
>
>It seems that there is more going on besides the use of a different part
>of the multi sample.  Pitch shifters do some pretty fancy processing
>don't they.  I thought the distortion you get when you shift up an octave
>(and tranpose back down) is interesting.  This seems like it could be due
>to a loss of resolution.  I would expect a loss of resolution pitch
>shifting downward rather than upward.

Actually, you get a loss of resolution both ways, shifting down you have to 
'make up' samples, shifting up you have to toss away samples. Either way, 
the resolution of the sample is compromised. Thats why multi-samples are 
important :)



>   At higher pitches, the sample rate
>is closer to the pitch of the sound and each sample would be a greater
>part of the wave.
>
>By the way, do we have a policy about uuencoded patches in posts?  I
>should have asked this before I attached my patch last time.  Sorry.  It
>looks like the attachment got filtered out anyway.  If anyone's
>interested in the patch, I can send it to you.

It might be better to use the files area on Egroups, then its cleanly 
archived - I've noticed on other groups that recently Egroups has started 
removing attachments on OLD mail messages in the archives...

As for patches attached, single patches for the VFX series are so small I 
don't think there's a problem, but if anyone else has a problem with it, 
please let me know :)

(Ie, as of this moment, the policy is 'patches being attached are ok', I'd 
draw the line at anything bigger than about 64k (which should be enough to 
allow people to attach whole bank dumps, if they want), I'd certainly frown 
upon attaching big MP3's for example.
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