Patches and discussion for Ensoniq VFX family group photo

Yahoo Groups archive

Patches and discussion for Ensoniq VFX family

Index last updated: 2026-04-29 00:03 UTC

Thread

floppies

floppies

2004-01-28 by Rick Margitza

Does anybody out there know where to get double density floppy discs. Mine 
are all full and need space to store the stuff I'm working on....or will Hd 
density discs work?
Thanks, Rick

_________________________________________________________________
Get a FREE online virus check for your PC here, from McAfee. 
http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963

Re: [Ensoniq-VFX-SD] floppies

2004-01-28 by Ralph Stokes

I use HD Disks
:-)

Rick Margitza wrote:
Show quoted textHide quoted text
>Does anybody out there know where to get double density floppy discs. Mine 
>are all full and need space to store the stuff I'm working on....or will Hd 
>density discs work?
>Thanks, Rick
>
>
>
>
>  
>

Re: [Ensoniq-VFX-SD] floppies

2004-01-28 by keith cummings

--- Rick Margitza <rickmargitza@...> wrote:
> or will Hd 
> density discs work?

yup, just put a piece of tape securely over the
top-left-hand square, much like with audio cassettes
that have their recording numbs removed and putting
tape over them so they can be recorded on again....
Cheers, Keith

__________________________________
Do you Yahoo!?
Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free web site building tool. Try it!
http://webhosting.yahoo.com/ps/sb/

Re: [Ensoniq-VFX-SD] floppies

2004-01-29 by mishon66@aol.com

In a message dated 1/28/2004 5:58:07 PM Eastern Standard Time, rickmargitza@... writes:

> Does anybody out there know where to get double density floppy discs. Mine 
> are all full and need space to store the stuff I'm working 
> on....or will Hd 
> density discs work?
> Thanks, Rick

www.Route66studios.com has them in bulk with labels

Re: [Ensoniq-VFX-SD] floppies

2004-01-29 by Frank Crawford

Potential problem with HD disks......if you use the Giebler program on a
computer, it wont work w/HD

FMC
Show quoted textHide quoted text
> From: Ralph Stokes <keysralph@...>
> Reply-To: Ensoniq-VFX-SD@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2004 23:33:11 +0000
> To: Ensoniq-VFX-SD@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [Ensoniq-VFX-SD] floppies
> 
> I use HD Disks
> :-)
> 
> Rick Margitza wrote:
> 
>> Does anybody out there know where to get double density floppy discs. Mine
>> are all full and need space to store the stuff I'm working on....or will Hd
>> density discs work?
>> Thanks, Rick
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Yahoo! Groups Links
> 
> To visit your group on the web, go to:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Ensoniq-VFX-SD/
> 
> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
> Ensoniq-VFX-SD-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
> 
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:
> http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
> 
>

RE: [Ensoniq-VFX-SD] floppies

2004-01-29 by Geren W. Mortensen, Jr.

If you put a piece of tape over the HD sense hole, the computer, and hence
the Giebler programs won't know it's an HD disk, and it will work just fine.

Geren W. Mortensen, Jr.
Columbia, Maryland, USA

http://gerenm.net/
Show quoted textHide quoted text
-----Original Message-----
From: Frank Crawford [mailto:fmc@...]
Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2004 9:05 AM
To: Ensoniq-VFX-SD@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Ensoniq-VFX-SD] floppies


Potential problem with HD disks......if you use the Giebler program on a
computer, it wont work w/HD

FMC

> From: Ralph Stokes <keysralph@...>
> Reply-To: Ensoniq-VFX-SD@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2004 23:33:11 +0000
> To: Ensoniq-VFX-SD@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [Ensoniq-VFX-SD] floppies
>
> I use HD Disks
> :-)
>
> Rick Margitza wrote:
>
>> Does anybody out there know where to get double density floppy discs.
Mine
>> are all full and need space to store the stuff I'm working on....or will
Hd
>> density discs work?
>> Thanks, Rick
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
> To visit your group on the web, go to:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Ensoniq-VFX-SD/
>
> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
> Ensoniq-VFX-SD-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:
> http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>





Yahoo! Groups Links

To visit your group on the web, go to:
 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Ensoniq-VFX-SD/

To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
 Ensoniq-VFX-SD-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com

Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:
 http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/

Re: [Ensoniq-VFX-SD] floppies

2004-01-29 by Frank Crawford

Thanks..FMC
Show quoted textHide quoted text
> From: "Geren W. Mortensen, Jr." <gerenm@...>
> Reply-To: Ensoniq-VFX-SD@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2004 09:09:25 -0500
> To: Ensoniq-VFX-SD@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [Ensoniq-VFX-SD] floppies
> 
> If you put a piece of tape over the HD sense hole, the computer, and hence
> the Giebler programs won't know it's an HD disk, and it will work just fine.
> 
> Geren W. Mortensen, Jr.
> Columbia, Maryland, USA
> 
> http://gerenm.net/
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Frank Crawford [mailto:fmc@...]
> Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2004 9:05 AM
> To: Ensoniq-VFX-SD@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [Ensoniq-VFX-SD] floppies
> 
> 
> Potential problem with HD disks......if you use the Giebler program on a
> computer, it wont work w/HD
> 
> FMC
> 
>> From: Ralph Stokes <keysralph@...>
>> Reply-To: Ensoniq-VFX-SD@yahoogroups.com
>> Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2004 23:33:11 +0000
>> To: Ensoniq-VFX-SD@yahoogroups.com
>> Subject: Re: [Ensoniq-VFX-SD] floppies
>> 
>> I use HD Disks
>> :-)
>> 
>> Rick Margitza wrote:
>> 
>>> Does anybody out there know where to get double density floppy discs.
> Mine
>>> are all full and need space to store the stuff I'm working on....or will
> Hd
>>> density discs work?
>>> Thanks, Rick
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Yahoo! Groups Links
>> 
>> To visit your group on the web, go to:
>> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Ensoniq-VFX-SD/
>> 
>> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
>> Ensoniq-VFX-SD-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
>> 
>> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:
>> http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>> 
>> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Yahoo! Groups Links
> 
> To visit your group on the web, go to:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Ensoniq-VFX-SD/
> 
> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
> Ensoniq-VFX-SD-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
> 
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:
> http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Yahoo! Groups Links
> 
> To visit your group on the web, go to:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Ensoniq-VFX-SD/
> 
> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
> Ensoniq-VFX-SD-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
> 
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:
> http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
> 
>

RE: [Ensoniq-VFX-SD] floppies

2004-01-29 by hans-artmann@t-online.de

Although this solution seems to work there is some risk you should know
about: HD floppies have a different surface and are designed to be written
with a lower magnetic field to achieve the higher density without the tracks
interfering each other. As a result, treating them HD as DD floppies will
cause drop outs and errors. In other words: they don't like this cheating
and will probably let you down after a while if not instantly.

If you just want to use an HD floppy for a single transfer of data you might
be lucky. If you want to archive sounds and sequences you should better find
some real DD floppies unless you don't worry about loosing your data.

Hans
Show quoted textHide quoted text
-----Original Message-----
From: Geren W. Mortensen, Jr. [mailto:gerenm@...]
Sent: Donnerstag, 29. Januar 2004 15:09
To: Ensoniq-VFX-SD@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Ensoniq-VFX-SD] floppies


If you put a piece of tape over the HD sense hole, the computer, and hence
the Giebler programs won't know it's an HD disk, and it will work just fine.

Geren W. Mortensen, Jr.
Columbia, Maryland, USA

http://gerenm.net/

-----Original Message-----
From: Frank Crawford [mailto:fmc@...]
Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2004 9:05 AM
To: Ensoniq-VFX-SD@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Ensoniq-VFX-SD] floppies


Potential problem with HD disks......if you use the Giebler program on a
computer, it wont work w/HD

FMC

> From: Ralph Stokes <keysralph@...>
> Reply-To: Ensoniq-VFX-SD@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2004 23:33:11 +0000
> To: Ensoniq-VFX-SD@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [Ensoniq-VFX-SD] floppies
>
> I use HD Disks
> :-)
>
> Rick Margitza wrote:
>
>> Does anybody out there know where to get double density floppy discs.
Mine
>> are all full and need space to store the stuff I'm working on....or will
Hd
>> density discs work?
>> Thanks, Rick
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
> To visit your group on the web, go to:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Ensoniq-VFX-SD/
>
> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
> Ensoniq-VFX-SD-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:
> http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>





Yahoo! Groups Links

To visit your group on the web, go to:
 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Ensoniq-VFX-SD/

To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
 Ensoniq-VFX-SD-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com

Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:
 http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/








Yahoo! Groups Links

To visit your group on the web, go to:
 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Ensoniq-VFX-SD/

To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
 Ensoniq-VFX-SD-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com

Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:
 http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/

RE: [Ensoniq-VFX-SD] floppies

2004-01-29 by Geren W. Mortensen, Jr.

Yeah, I've heard this over the years.  Yet, I've never had a problem in
10-12 years of doing it -- at least with 3.5" floppies.  Just lucky, I
guess.

Geren W. Mortensen, Jr.
Columbia, Maryland, USA

http://gerenm.net/
Show quoted textHide quoted text
-----Original Message-----
From: hans-artmann@... [mailto:hans-artmann@...]
Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2004 1:55 PM
To: Ensoniq-VFX-SD@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Ensoniq-VFX-SD] floppies


Although this solution seems to work there is some risk you should know
about: HD floppies have a different surface and are designed to be written
with a lower magnetic field to achieve the higher density without the tracks
interfering each other. As a result, treating them HD as DD floppies will
cause drop outs and errors. In other words: they don't like this cheating
and will probably let you down after a while if not instantly.

If you just want to use an HD floppy for a single transfer of data you might
be lucky. If you want to archive sounds and sequences you should better find
some real DD floppies unless you don't worry about loosing your data.

Hans

-----Original Message-----
From: Geren W. Mortensen, Jr. [mailto:gerenm@...]
Sent: Donnerstag, 29. Januar 2004 15:09
To: Ensoniq-VFX-SD@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Ensoniq-VFX-SD] floppies


If you put a piece of tape over the HD sense hole, the computer, and hence
the Giebler programs won't know it's an HD disk, and it will work just fine.

Geren W. Mortensen, Jr.
Columbia, Maryland, USA

http://gerenm.net/

-----Original Message-----
From: Frank Crawford [mailto:fmc@...]
Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2004 9:05 AM
To: Ensoniq-VFX-SD@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Ensoniq-VFX-SD] floppies


Potential problem with HD disks......if you use the Giebler program on a
computer, it wont work w/HD

FMC

> From: Ralph Stokes <keysralph@...>
> Reply-To: Ensoniq-VFX-SD@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2004 23:33:11 +0000
> To: Ensoniq-VFX-SD@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [Ensoniq-VFX-SD] floppies
>
> I use HD Disks
> :-)
>
> Rick Margitza wrote:
>
>> Does anybody out there know where to get double density floppy discs.
Mine
>> are all full and need space to store the stuff I'm working on....or will
Hd
>> density discs work?
>> Thanks, Rick
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
> To visit your group on the web, go to:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Ensoniq-VFX-SD/
>
> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
> Ensoniq-VFX-SD-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:
> http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>





Yahoo! Groups Links

To visit your group on the web, go to:
 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Ensoniq-VFX-SD/

To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
 Ensoniq-VFX-SD-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com

Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:
 http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/








Yahoo! Groups Links

To visit your group on the web, go to:
 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Ensoniq-VFX-SD/

To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
 Ensoniq-VFX-SD-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com

Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:
 http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/







Yahoo! Groups Links

To visit your group on the web, go to:
 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Ensoniq-VFX-SD/

To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
 Ensoniq-VFX-SD-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com

Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:
 http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/

Re: [Ensoniq-VFX-SD] floppies

2004-01-29 by Ralph Stokes

I have a few hundred HD disks I have been using with my SD-1 32voice for the last 11 years, and to my knowledge the only disks that have given me trouble were, firstly, some very old double density disks I recorded on 13 years ago, in Vancouver, with early VFX SDI & SDII Work (Likely worn out from over use, and from magnetic forces creating noise in the data, until the sound to noise ratio swallowed the data) and some "Majorly Cheap" High density "AT&T" branded HD disks from Staples, here in England (probably imported via the USA) where up to 25% of them would crash while formatting on my SD-1. This was a box of several hundred very cheap flimsy disks. Staples replaced the ones I returned, even though most appeared to work in my Laptop. I have never had a problem with any higher quality disks. Double Density Disks do not appear to be available here in the UK.

The HD Disks I currently use include:-
Fuji Film (Made in Germany)
Emtec
Imation
AT&T (wont buy again)

Old DD Disks I still use:-
Sony
Precision
3M
Dysan

Only AT&T gave me any problems. However, I know nothing of putting tape on the HD disks, as I have never done such a thing.

Hope this helps.

Ralph :-)


hans-artmann@... wrote:
Show quoted textHide quoted text
Although this solution seems to work there is some risk you should know
about: HD floppies have a different surface and are designed to be written
with a lower magnetic field to achieve the higher density without the tracks
interfering each other. As a result, treating them HD as DD floppies will
cause drop outs and errors. In other words: they don't like this cheating
and will probably let you down after a while if not instantly.

If you just want to use an HD floppy for a single transfer of data you might
be lucky. If you want to archive sounds and sequences you should better find
some real DD floppies unless you don't worry about loosing your data.

Hans

-----Original Message-----
From: Geren W. Mortensen, Jr. [mailto:gerenm@...]
Sent: Donnerstag, 29. Januar 2004 15:09
To: Ensoniq-VFX-SD@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Ensoniq-VFX-SD] floppies


If you put a piece of tape over the HD sense hole, the computer, and hence
the Giebler programs won't know it's an HD disk, and it will work just fine.

Geren W. Mortensen, Jr.
Columbia, Maryland, USA

http://gerenm.net/

-----Original Message-----
From: Frank Crawford [mailto:fmc@...]
Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2004 9:05 AM
To: Ensoniq-VFX-SD@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Ensoniq-VFX-SD] floppies


Potential problem with HD disks......if you use the Giebler program on a
computer, it wont work w/HD

FMC

  
From: Ralph Stokes 
Reply-To: Ensoniq-VFX-SD@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2004 23:33:11 +0000
To: Ensoniq-VFX-SD@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Ensoniq-VFX-SD] floppies

I use HD Disks
:-)

Rick Margitza wrote:

    
Does anybody out there know where to get double density floppy discs.
      
Mine
  
are all full and need space to store the stuff I'm working on....or will
      
Hd
  
density discs work?
Thanks, Rick






      


    
  

Re: [Ensoniq-VFX-SD] floppies

2004-01-31 by Rick Margitza

Thanks for the all the replies guys.....all very helpful.
Rick

_________________________________________________________________
There are now three new levels of MSN Hotmail Extra Storage!  Learn more. 
http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-us&page=hotmail/es2&ST=1

Re: floppies

2004-02-02 by flihotz

Mei/Microcenter has been a great source of floppy bulk purchases for
years:

http://search.netscape.com/ns/boomframe.jsp?query=mei+micro+center&page=1&offset=0&result_url=redir?src=websearch&requestId=5cfdb44b92d6fcb&clickedItemRank=6&userQuery=mei+micro+center&clickedItemURN=http%3A%2F%2Fhome1.gte.net%2Flongrj2%2Fcpsl%2Fsupplies.html&invocationType=-&fromPage=nsBrowserRoll&remove_url=http://home1.gte.net/longrj2/cpsl/supplies.html

FRL

--- In Ensoniq-VFX-SD@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Margitza"
<rickmargitza@h...> wrote:
> Thanks for the all the replies guys.....all very helpful.
> Rick
> 
> _________________________________________________________________
> There are now three new levels of MSN Hotmail Extra Storage!  Learn
more. 
> http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-us&page=hotmail/es2&ST=1

Move to quarantaine

This moves the raw source file on disk only. The archive index is not changed automatically, so you still need to run a manual refresh afterward.