Patches and discussion for Ensoniq VFX family

Does anyone have some of their sound settings on paper?  I am looking
for the following sounds:

Lead Sax - the one wher the Patch Select buttons allow for the 1-note
bend up, the growl, and the 3-note trill up to the main note.
Merlin - just gotta dig that sound.
The Queen - kind of a regal sound with a slight delay
Mini Lead - great high pitched lead sound.
In Concert - piano and string sound.

I will glady take any sounds though, but would like to have these
specifically, if possible.  
I have the lead sax sound mostly redone, but I cannot get the 3-note
trill part programmed.  I am stuck.

Additionally, does anyone have a useable solo violin patch?  I cannot
seem to find a violin wave anywhere, but that does not always matter.


I have a VFX-SD but the floppy drive does not work right now.  I also
do not have any cartridges yet for it and have to wait probably until
tex-refund time to send it to TheSoniq to get it serviced.

I have made a few sounds from memory thus far and some sounds based on
my SQ2 32 Voice I still have as my main controller in the studio, but
some of those sounds I cannot remember all of the programming for.

Additionally, if anyone has the sounds stored in a DOS format for use
in my Yamaha MDF-II Midi Data Filer, could you send them over to me or
post them in the Files section?

Thank you, 

Harry Ebbeson III
Ebbeson Management Group

Harry,
I can send you 4 of the patches off-board as one sysex file to download to
your SD with any MIDI sysex tool. I don't have the lead sax. Sounds
interesting. If anyone happens to have this I'd be interested...

I believe a good violin sound is only available on the SD-1. The earlier
models didn't have the solo string waves.

Hans


----- Original Message ----- 

From: "Harry" <ebbrecords@...>
To: <Ensoniq-VFX-SD@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2005 9:30 PM
Subject: [Ensoniq-VFX-SD] Sounds on Paper...


>
>
> Does anyone have some of their sound settings on paper?  I am looking
> for the following sounds:
>
> Lead Sax - the one wher the Patch Select buttons allow for the 1-note
> bend up, the growl, and the 3-note trill up to the main note.
> Merlin - just gotta dig that sound.
> The Queen - kind of a regal sound with a slight delay
> Mini Lead - great high pitched lead sound.
> In Concert - piano and string sound.
>
> I will glady take any sounds though, but would like to have these
> specifically, if possible.
> I have the lead sax sound mostly redone, but I cannot get the 3-note
> trill part programmed.  I am stuck.
>
> Additionally, does anyone have a useable solo violin patch?  I cannot
> seem to find a violin wave anywhere, but that does not always matter.
>
>
> I have a VFX-SD but the floppy drive does not work right now.  I also
> do not have any cartridges yet for it and have to wait probably until
> tex-refund time to send it to TheSoniq to get it serviced.
>
> I have made a few sounds from memory thus far and some sounds based on
> my SQ2 32 Voice I still have as my main controller in the studio, but
> some of those sounds I cannot remember all of the programming for.
>
> Additionally, if anyone has the sounds stored in a DOS format for use
> in my Yamaha MDF-II Midi Data Filer, could you send them over to me or
> post them in the Files section?
>
> Thank you,
>
> Harry Ebbeson III
> Ebbeson Management Group
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

Thank you for the sounds.  At this point I am unable to get them from
the computer to the VFX-SD.  I do not have the MIDI interface on the
computer.  I am going to look into it tomorrow at the office and see
what I can come up with.
Do you have the programs written out anywhere as to what their voice
settings are?  Do anyone else have that information as well that I
could pull the information from?  I keep thinking of my previous
issues of the Transoniq Hacker (I had years of these things once) and
they had the sound settings in there.

I do have a lead sax sound that I have tried to re-create from memory
and have most of it done.  when I figure out how to do the 3-note
trill, I will post it to the Files section of our group.

My VFX had the same programs in both RAM and ROM when I got it, so I
have had to make some of the old sounds from memory.

Does anyone have a conversion program from SYX files to a DOS file?
I have a Yamaha MDF-II Midi Data filer that can play DOS files.  

Additionally, I thank you for the information on the Violin patch.  I
also have an Ensoniq SQ2 32-Voice, and have a great solo violin patch
I made on there.

Thank you, 

Harry Ebbeson III
Ebbeson Management Group

What I could deliver is information on what voices, .i.e. instruments
are used with which patch select.
However some other settings related to the voices might be even more
important.
Maybe there's someone out there who has got a VFX editor like Sound
Quest and could read out the 
values from there more easily???
With no MIDI and no floppy drive you seem to be lost... 

Hans

-----Original Message-----
Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 03:10:55 +0100
Subject: [Ensoniq-VFX-SD] Re: Sounds on Paper...
From: "Harry" <ebbrecords@...>
To: Ensoniq-VFX-SD@yahoogroups.com



Thank you for the sounds.  At this point I am unable to get them from
the computer to the VFX-SD.  I do not have the MIDI interface on the
computer.  I am going to look into it tomorrow at the office and see
what I can come up with.
Do you have the programs written out anywhere as to what their voice
settings are?  Do anyone else have that information as well that I
could pull the information from?  I keep thinking of my previous
issues of the Transoniq Hacker (I had years of these things once) and
they had the sound settings in there.

I do have a lead sax sound that I have tried to re-create from memory
and have most of it done.  when I figure out how to do the 3-note
trill, I will post it to the Files section of our group.

My VFX had the same programs in both RAM and ROM when I got it, so I
have had to make some of the old sounds from memory.

Does anyone have a conversion program from SYX files to a DOS file?
I have a Yamaha MDF-II Midi Data filer that can play DOS files.

Additionally, I thank you for the information on the Violin patch.  I
also have an Ensoniq SQ2 32-Voice, and have a great solo violin patch
I made on there.

Thank you,

Harry Ebbeson III
Ebbeson Management Group









Yahoo! Groups Links

Thank you for the reply.  I would welcome any patch settings that you
can provide.
I am not really lost on the VFX at this point, because I am mainly
using it for drums and bass to augment my system.  The 12 Preset main
template is what I use on it at present.  I will get the drive fixed
and eventually get one of my computers for have a MIDI interface.  I
mainly do everything via hardware in my studio.  Everything is
connected via MIDI, including my hard drive recorder, but none of it
is connected to my computer.  I was too busy buying boards and
outboard gear to worry about getting my computer outfitted for MIDI
work...

Anyway, thank you again and I look forward to the information.

Harry Ebbeson III
Ebbeson Management Group
www.geocities.com/ebbrecords




--- In Ensoniq-VFX-SD@yahoogroups.com, hans-artmann@t... wrote:

> What I could deliver is information on what voices, .i.e. instruments
> are used with which patch select.
> However some other settings related to the voices might be even more
> important.
> Maybe there's someone out there who has got a VFX editor like Sound
> Quest and could read out the 
> values from there more easily???
> With no MIDI and no floppy drive you seem to be lost... 
> 
> Hans
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 03:10:55 +0100
> Subject: [Ensoniq-VFX-SD] Re: Sounds on Paper...
> From: "Harry" <ebbrecords@y...>
> To: Ensoniq-VFX-SD@yahoogroups.com
> 
> 
> 
> Thank you for the sounds.  At this point I am unable to get them from
> the computer to the VFX-SD.  I do not have the MIDI interface on the
> computer.  I am going to look into it tomorrow at the office and see
> what I can come up with.
> Do you have the programs written out anywhere as to what their voice
> settings are?  Do anyone else have that information as well that I
> could pull the information from?  I keep thinking of my previous
> issues of the Transoniq Hacker (I had years of these things once) and
> they had the sound settings in there.
> 
> I do have a lead sax sound that I have tried to re-create from memory
> and have most of it done.  when I figure out how to do the 3-note
> trill, I will post it to the Files section of our group.
> 
> My VFX had the same programs in both RAM and ROM when I got it, so I
> have had to make some of the old sounds from memory.
> 
> Does anyone have a conversion program from SYX files to a DOS file?
> I have a Yamaha MDF-II Midi Data filer that can play DOS files.
> 
> Additionally, I thank you for the information on the Violin patch.  I
> also have an Ensoniq SQ2 32-Voice, and have a great solo violin patch
> I made on there.
> 
> Thank you,
> 
> Harry Ebbeson III
> Ebbeson Management Group
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Yahoo! Groups Links

Harry,
Here's the list of what I can produce, along with a description of the
fields.


"progNr","progName","voiceCheck","voice1","voice2","voice3","voice4","vo
ice5","voice6","pitchSw","patch1","patch2","patch3","patch4","progCheck"
01,THE-QUEEN
,2011615376,PIANO.VAR,ESQBELL-X,VOCAL-PAD,PIANO.VAR,INHARM-X,SYNTH-BEL,0
,000101,000011,000110,111000,1963033141
02,MERLIN
,1026409057,RACK-BELL,DOORBELL,VOCAL-PAD,VOCAL-X,ESQBELL-X,STRINGS,0,000
101,100011,010100,001101,421758771
03,MINI-LEAD
,2611097652,SQUARE,SQUARE,SQUARE,SQUARE,SQUARE,SQUARE,0,000111,011000,11
0000,100000,2903215105
04,IN-CONCERT
,1386235780,STRINGS,GRAND-PNO,GRAND-PNO,EL-GUITAR,GRAND-PNO,UNI-BRASS,0,
010001,000110,111000,111001,1021761607


progNr		program number within the bank
progName	program name
voiceCheck	unique identifier *) for the set of 6 voices with their
parameters
voice1-6	waves used for the 6 voices
pitchSw		1 indicates that voice 6 contains a pitch table (else 0)
                2 indicates that voice 6 contains a drum map (else 0)
patch1-4	indicates with 1 which voices are used in the
combinations 1-4 
		of the patch selectors (00,*0,0*,**)
progCheck	unique identifier *) for the set of program parameters

The first line contains field names to allow easy import into a database
or spreadsheet.

*) The unique identifier is a checksum computed from the respective
contents of
   the program, i.e. identical programs produce the same identifiers.

BTW, I've posted the program to list sysex file contents (and others to
deal with floppies) in the file section of the list, the above output
has been created with vlst. Programs which do not access floppies can be
run from a cmd prompt in any windows system.

Hans

-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: Harry [mailto:ebbrecords@...] 
Gesendet: Montag, 10. Januar 2005 17:13
An: Ensoniq-VFX-SD@yahoogroups.com
Betreff: [Ensoniq-VFX-SD] Re: Sounds on Paper...




Thank you for the reply.  I would welcome any patch settings that you
can provide. I am not really lost on the VFX at this point, because I am
mainly using it for drums and bass to augment my system.  The 12 Preset
main template is what I use on it at present.  I will get the drive
fixed and eventually get one of my computers for have a MIDI interface.
I mainly do everything via hardware in my studio.  Everything is
connected via MIDI, including my hard drive recorder, but none of it is
connected to my computer.  I was too busy buying boards and outboard
gear to worry about getting my computer outfitted for MIDI work...

Anyway, thank you again and I look forward to the information.

Harry Ebbeson III
Ebbeson Management Group
www.geocities.com/ebbrecords




--- In Ensoniq-VFX-SD@yahoogroups.com, hans-artmann@t... wrote:
> What I could deliver is information on what voices, .i.e. instruments 
> are used with which patch select. However some other settings related 
> to the voices might be even more important.
> Maybe there's someone out there who has got a VFX editor like Sound
> Quest and could read out the 
> values from there more easily???
> With no MIDI and no floppy drive you seem to be lost... 
> 
> Hans
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 03:10:55 +0100
> Subject: [Ensoniq-VFX-SD] Re: Sounds on Paper...
> From: "Harry" <ebbrecords@y...>
> To: Ensoniq-VFX-SD@yahoogroups.com
> 
> 
> 
> Thank you for the sounds.  At this point I am unable to get them from 
> the computer to the VFX-SD.  I do not have the MIDI interface on the 
> computer.  I am going to look into it tomorrow at the office and see 
> what I can come up with. Do you have the programs written out anywhere

> as to what their voice settings are?  Do anyone else have that 
> information as well that I could pull the information from?  I keep 
> thinking of my previous issues of the Transoniq Hacker (I had years of

> these things once) and they had the sound settings in there.
> 
> I do have a lead sax sound that I have tried to re-create from memory 
> and have most of it done.  when I figure out how to do the 3-note 
> trill, I will post it to the Files section of our group.
> 
> My VFX had the same programs in both RAM and ROM when I got it, so I 
> have had to make some of the old sounds from memory.
> 
> Does anyone have a conversion program from SYX files to a DOS file? I 
> have a Yamaha MDF-II Midi Data filer that can play DOS files.
> 
> Additionally, I thank you for the information on the Violin patch.  I 
> also have an Ensoniq SQ2 32-Voice, and have a great solo violin patch 
> I made on there.
> 
> Thank you,
> 
> Harry Ebbeson III
> Ebbeson Management Group
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Yahoo! Groups Links






 
Yahoo! Groups Links

Hans, 
  Thank you for the information.  I will get started on them tonight
and see what I come up with.
  I have an SQ2 32-Voice as well, and was able to make the Merlin
sound on my VFX based on the Mystic patch on the SQ2.  These patches
are virtually indentical and I had fun comparing the menus between the
two.  The VFX has a couple of extra parameters in the ENV section of
it all (Break 3, Decay 3) that require some playing around with when I
was programming the sounds.
  I was also able to get a lead sound I always use on the SQ2 called
Dyno Lead (I customized it), to almost work on the VFX.  The Digital-X
tone seems to distort out at the higher notes, so I had to find
another sound.
  There was also another sound called St. Michael that i was able to
get over as well.

  I think the challenging sound will be The Queen, because if I
remember correctly, it had a slight delay on part of the sound....

Thank you again, 

Harry Ebbeson III
www.geocities.com/ebbrecords
Ebbeson Management Group




--- In Ensoniq-VFX-SD@...m, hans-artmann@t... wrote:

> Harry,
> Here's the list of what I can produce, along with a description of the
> fields.
> 
> 
> "progNr","progName","voiceCheck","voice1","voice2","voice3","voice4","vo
> ice5","voice6","pitchSw","patch1","patch2","patch3","patch4","progCheck"
> 01,THE-QUEEN
> ,2011615376,PIANO.VAR,ESQBELL-X,VOCAL-PAD,PIANO.VAR,INHARM-X,SYNTH-BEL,0
> ,000101,000011,000110,111000,1963033141
> 02,MERLIN
> ,1026409057,RACK-BELL,DOORBELL,VOCAL-PAD,VOCAL-X,ESQBELL-X,STRINGS,0,000
> 101,100011,010100,001101,421758771
> 03,MINI-LEAD
> ,2611097652,SQUARE,SQUARE,SQUARE,SQUARE,SQUARE,SQUARE,0,000111,011000,11
> 0000,100000,2903215105
> 04,IN-CONCERT
> ,1386235780,STRINGS,GRAND-PNO,GRAND-PNO,EL-GUITAR,GRAND-PNO,UNI-BRASS,0,
> 010001,000110,111000,111001,1021761607
> 
> 
> progNr		program number within the bank
> progName	program name
> voiceCheck	unique identifier *) for the set of 6 voices with their
> parameters
> voice1-6	waves used for the 6 voices
> pitchSw		1 indicates that voice 6 contains a pitch table (else 0)
>                 2 indicates that voice 6 contains a drum map (else 0)
> patch1-4	indicates with 1 which voices are used in the
> combinations 1-4 
> 		of the patch selectors (00,*0,0*,**)
> progCheck	unique identifier *) for the set of program parameters
> 
> The first line contains field names to allow easy import into a database
> or spreadsheet.
> 
> *) The unique identifier is a checksum computed from the respective
> contents of
>    the program, i.e. identical programs produce the same identifiers.
> 
> BTW, I've posted the program to list sysex file contents (and others to
> deal with floppies) in the file section of the list, the above output
> has been created with vlst. Programs which do not access floppies can be
> run from a cmd prompt in any windows system.
> 
> Hans
> 
> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: Harry [mailto:ebbrecords@y...] 
> Gesendet: Montag, 10. Januar 2005 17:13
> An: Ensoniq-VFX-SD@yahoogroups.com
> Betreff: [Ensoniq-VFX-SD] Re: Sounds on Paper...
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Thank you for the reply.  I would welcome any patch settings that you
> can provide. I am not really lost on the VFX at this point, because I am
> mainly using it for drums and bass to augment my system.  The 12 Preset
> main template is what I use on it at present.  I will get the drive
> fixed and eventually get one of my computers for have a MIDI interface.
> I mainly do everything via hardware in my studio.  Everything is
> connected via MIDI, including my hard drive recorder, but none of it is
> connected to my computer.  I was too busy buying boards and outboard
> gear to worry about getting my computer outfitted for MIDI work...
> 
> Anyway, thank you again and I look forward to the information.
> 
> Harry Ebbeson III
> Ebbeson Management Group
> www.geocities.com/ebbrecords
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --- In Ensoniq-VFX-SD@yahoogroups.com, hans-artmann@t... wrote:
> > What I could deliver is information on what voices, .i.e. instruments 
> > are used with which patch select. However some other settings related 
> > to the voices might be even more important.
> > Maybe there's someone out there who has got a VFX editor like Sound
> > Quest and could read out the 
> > values from there more easily???
> > With no MIDI and no floppy drive you seem to be lost... 
> > 
> > Hans
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 03:10:55 +0100
> > Subject: [Ensoniq-VFX-SD] Re: Sounds on Paper...
> > From: "Harry" <ebbrecords@y...>
> > To: Ensoniq-VFX-SD@yahoogroups.com
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Thank you for the sounds.  At this point I am unable to get them from 
> > the computer to the VFX-SD.  I do not have the MIDI interface on the 
> > computer.  I am going to look into it tomorrow at the office and see 
> > what I can come up with. Do you have the programs written out anywhere
> 
> > as to what their voice settings are?  Do anyone else have that 
> > information as well that I could pull the information from?  I keep 
> > thinking of my previous issues of the Transoniq Hacker (I had years of
> 
> > these things once) and they had the sound settings in there.
> > 
> > I do have a lead sax sound that I have tried to re-create from memory 
> > and have most of it done.  when I figure out how to do the 3-note 
> > trill, I will post it to the Files section of our group.
> > 
> > My VFX had the same programs in both RAM and ROM when I got it, so I 
> > have had to make some of the old sounds from memory.
> > 
> > Does anyone have a conversion program from SYX files to a DOS file? I 
> > have a Yamaha MDF-II Midi Data filer that can play DOS files.
> > 
> > Additionally, I thank you for the information on the Violin patch.  I 
> > also have an Ensoniq SQ2 32-Voice, and have a great solo violin patch 
> > I made on there.
> > 
> > Thank you,
> > 
> > Harry Ebbeson III
> > Ebbeson Management Group
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  
> Yahoo! Groups Links

Hans, 
  I want to thank you for the sounds.  I have been able to lead them
into the VFX via Sysex and it is sure bringing back memories of an
earlier (and much easier) musical time.....it is great.

I have many synths, one being a Roland XP60 with expansion boards in it.
I posted to that group if there was a Sysex converter that would
convert .syx files to .mid files so I could play them back either from
the Roland XP60 or my Yamaha MDF-II MIDI File Player.  One of the guys
in that group sent me a program that does just that.  I was able to
load all of the single sounds I could find into the VFX.  It is really
great to have some of those old sounds back.  It cannot load full
banks though, so I am looking for all of the single .syx sounds I can
find.

Do you know (or anyone else in the group) of a conversion program that
allows for banks of sounds to be converted from a .syx format to a
.mid format?

Additionally, can we load the seqiencer in the same fashion?  Can it
be loaded from Sysex or does it have to be loaded by floppy?  If it
can be loaded from Sysex, can I get a copy of the sequencer OS so I
can try it out?

I will get the floppy fixed when our tax refund check comes, but until
then, I do not mind doing it the old fashioned way.

Thank you again for all of your help, 

Harry Ebbeson III
Ebbeson Management Group
www.geocities.com/ebbrecords

Hi Harry,
I'm glad that I could help out. I'll try to insert some answers to your
questions below along with some questions from my side.

Hans

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Harry" <ebbrecords@...>
To: <Ensoniq-VFX-SD@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2005 5:00 AM
Subject: [Ensoniq-VFX-SD] Re: Sounds on Paper...


>
>
> Hans,
>   I want to thank you for the sounds.  I have been able to lead them
> into the VFX via Sysex and it is sure bringing back memories of an
> earlier (and much easier) musical time.....it is great.
>
> I have many synths, one being a Roland XP60 with expansion boards in it.
> I posted to that group if there was a Sysex converter that would
> convert .syx files to .mid files so I could play them back either from
> the Roland XP60 or my Yamaha MDF-II MIDI File Player.  One of the guys
> in that group sent me a program that does just that.  I was able to
>>>>>>>>>> which program? why can't it deal with banks?

> load all of the single sounds I could find into the VFX.  It is really
> great to have some of those old sounds back.  It cannot load full
> banks though, so I am looking for all of the single .syx sounds I can
> find.
>
> Do you know (or anyone else in the group) of a conversion program that
> allows for banks of sounds to be converted from a .syx format to a
> .mid format?
>>>>>>>>>>> when I remember correctly good old Cakewalk 3.0 was able to load
banks and include them in a midi file which then can be exported.
A less convenient way would be to split banks into single patch sysex files.
You could use both SOUNDLIB or VFXLIB for that. Soundlib is available in the
grou\ufffds file section. If you can't find
VFXLIB just tell me, I can upload it to the file section.

There used to be a SW from www.giebler.com (the web site still exists but
they didn't react when I
sent a request to them) where a conversion program is available that can
convert sequences in VFX/SD format (as stored on VFX/SD floppies into
standard midi files and vice versa. However, I'm not aware if the midi files
could contain related patches. And this would only solve your problem when
the sequences in VFX format could be sent via sysex... I doubt all this. The
program would cost round 30$ anyway.

Has anybody in the group worked with Gieblers converter?

>
> Additionally, can we load the seqiencer in the same fashion?
>>>>>>>>>>> definitely NO, must be loaded from floppy

> Can it
> be loaded from Sysex or does it have to be loaded by floppy?  If it
> can be loaded from Sysex, can I get a copy of the sequencer OS so I
> can try it out?
>
> I will get the floppy fixed when our tax refund check comes, but until
> then, I do not mind doing it the old fashioned way.
>
> Thank you again for all of your help,
>
> Harry Ebbeson III
> Ebbeson Management Group
> www.geocities.com/ebbrecords
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
>
>