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2011-04-12 by River Of Life
Hi Guys, I am thinking of getting keyboard or rack unit that is very good for pads that would compliment the SD-1. I have some of the Syntaur Sounds libraries and am looking for better sounding pads. Any suggestions would be welcomed. Your Servant in Christ, Vince Perna The River Of Life Discount Christian Bookstore http://www.riveroflifecbs.com
2011-04-12 by jammie.emma@blueyonder.co.uk
----- Original Message -----From: River Of LifeSent: Tuesday, April 12, 2011 1:03 AMSubject: [Ensoniq-VFX-SD] Re: PadsHi Guys,
I am thinking of getting keyboard or rack unit that is very good for
pads that would compliment the SD-1. I have some of the Syntaur
Sounds libraries and am looking for better sounding pads. Any
suggestions would be welcomed.
Your Servant in Christ,
Vince Perna
The River Of Life
Discount Christian Bookstore
http://www.riveroflifecbs.com
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2011-04-12 by LarryS
Layering? Splitting? Parts against parts? what do you mean? If "Compliment" means "using with, but not sounding the same", I'd go for just about ANYTHING. Wavestation AD is always good. Pads like nothing else. Sounds nothing like your SD1. Every patch is a winner. Or, something as cheap and easy as a D-50 Roland (or D-550 rack) or M1(R) Korg. Jillions out there, cheap to find, have a wide range of sounds. Even an unassuming little module like a Roland U-220 or a teensy little Korg half-rack X-model all have lots of presets to layer and pad with. All depends whatcher lookin' for. To me, that's what I hear you asking about in your definition of "compliment". But if you simply wanna fatten things up even MORE, then an Oberheim Matrix 1000. Fattest of the fat in a 1U package. Get the blackface model... still cheap. Again, every patch a winner. Heck, even some of the FM Yamaha modules would help add some sparkle... if that's what you're looking for. Lots of times some of that otherwise annoying FM bite is just what a tired old saw needs. All that can be had on the cheap... all of that on the "old but not vintage" list, therefore still dependably WORKING, too ;-) Maybe need a battery in the memory. Otherwise, just shop around and get what the budget allows on the new market. Because building pads is a funny thing. There are at least 100 ways to skin the cat. What sounds good to your ears will be great for live work while the Praise Band is playing or the speaker is having at it. But what sounds good to your ears might sound AWFUL trying to lay in the mix back at the studio -- so back to the drawing board. I've built essentially IDENTICAL pads using Yamaha gear and Moog gear (how dissimilar can you get?) for exactly those reasons -- one that sounds good and one that lays in the mix real well. One of my go-to modules for pad work is the often-overlooked ESQ-m. It never had the juice of the "lead-synth" crew like the fashionable Arps and Moogs, and it didn't have the name cachet of the Oberheim (nor designer price), so you don't hear it much on big budget recordings. But it's such a COMFORTABLE sound. Very much like old blue jeans, IMO. But the trade-off is that it doesn't layer very well. It kinda needs a lotta elbow room to sound right. Your "very good for pads" may not match mine, but as you can see, the options are plenty -- just narrow down what you want. L.
> -----Original Message----- > From: Ensoniq-VFX-SD@yahoogroups.com > [mailto:Ensoniq-VFX-SD@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of River Of Life > Sent: Monday, April 11, 2011 7:03 PM > To: Ensoniq-VFX-SD@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [Ensoniq-VFX-SD] Re: Pads > > Hi Guys, > > I am thinking of getting keyboard or rack unit that is very good for > pads that would compliment the SD-1. I have some of the Syntaur > Sounds libraries and am looking for better sounding pads. Any > suggestions would be welcomed. > > > > Your Servant in Christ, > > Vince Perna > The River Of Life > Discount Christian Bookstore > http://www.riveroflifecbs.com >
2011-04-12 by somethingkillingyou
>you can do the same with the sd1 by using any of the single cycle sounds so the advice is: don't buy ANYTHING. program your own patches with the SD-1!!! I don't get why he should be buying a TS10 or ASR10 when none of those has resonant filters! what's the advantage in buying synths that are very similar to the SD1? F. --- In Ensoniq-VFX-SD@yahoogroups.com, <jammie.emma@...> wrote:
> > get a asr10 keyboard or ts10 then you can make your own fat pads like the supersaw of the jp8000 and virus > > its 8 saw waves slightly out of phase by pitch which make great pads then have the 2 filters with different setting for each cutoff for each of the layers then ad the chorus and echo fx and slightly pan each layer in the stereo feild > > and play fat to your harts content mod wheel to do cutoff > > you can do the same with the sd1 by using any of the single cycle sounds > ----- Original Message ----- > From: River Of Life > To: Ensoniq-VFX-SD@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2011 1:03 AM > Subject: [Ensoniq-VFX-SD] Re: Pads > > > > Hi Guys, > > I am thinking of getting keyboard or rack unit that is very good for > pads that would compliment the SD-1. I have some of the Syntaur > Sounds libraries and am looking for better sounding pads. Any > suggestions would be welcomed. > > Your Servant in Christ, > > Vince Perna > The River Of Life > Discount Christian Bookstore > http://www.riveroflifecbs.com > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 9.0.851 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3565 - Release Date: 04/11/11 07:35:00 >
2011-04-13 by River Of Life
Layering? Splitting? Parts against parts? what do you mean?
If "Compliment" means "using with, but not sounding the same", I'd go for
just about ANYTHING.
Wavestation AD is always good. Pads like nothing else. Sounds nothing like
your SD1. Every patch is a winner.
Or, something as cheap and easy as a D-50 Roland (or D-550 rack) or M1(R)
Korg.
Jillions out there, cheap to find, have a wide range of sounds.
Even an unassuming little module like a Roland U-220 or a teensy little Korg
half-rack X-model all have lots of presets to layer and pad with. All
depends whatcher lookin' for.
To me, that's what I hear you asking about in your definition of
"compliment".
But if you simply wanna fatten things up even MORE, then an Oberheim Matrix
1000. Fattest of the fat in a 1U package. Get the blackface model... still
cheap. Again, every patch a winner.
Heck, even some of the FM Yamaha modules would help add some sparkle... if
that's what you're looking for. Lots of times some of that otherwise
annoying FM bite is just what a tired old saw needs.
All that can be had on the cheap... all of that on the "old but not vintage"
list, therefore still dependably WORKING, too ;-) Maybe need a battery in
the memory.
Otherwise, just shop around and get what the budget allows on the new
market.
Because building pads is a funny thing. There are at least 100 ways to skin
the cat. What sounds good to your ears will be great for live work while
the Praise Band is playing or the speaker is having at it. But what sounds
good to your ears might sound AWFUL trying to lay in the mix back at the
studio -- so back to the drawing board. I've built essentially IDENTICAL
pads using Yamaha gear and Moog gear (how dissimilar can you get?) for
exactly those reasons -- one that sounds good and one that lays in the mix
real well.
One of my go-to modules for pad work is the often-overlooked ESQ-m. It
never had the juice of the "lead-synth" crew like the fashionable Arps and
Moogs, and it didn't have the name cachet of the Oberheim (nor designer
price), so you don't hear it much on big budget recordings. But it's such a
COMFORTABLE sound. Very much like old blue jeans, IMO. But the trade-off
is that it doesn't layer very well. It kinda needs a lotta elbow room to
sound right.
Your "very good for pads" may not match mine, but as you can see, the
options are plenty -- just narrow down what you want.
L.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ensoniq-VFX-SD@yahoogroups.com
> [ mailto:Ensoniq-VFX-SD@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of River Of Life
> Sent: Monday, April 11, 2011 7:03 PM
> To: Ensoniq-VFX-SD@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [Ensoniq-VFX-SD] Re: Pads
>
> Hi Guys,
>
> I am thinking of getting keyboard or rack unit that is very good for
> pads that would compliment the SD-1. I have some of the Syntaur
> Sounds libraries and am looking for better sounding pads. Any
> suggestions would be welcomed.
>
>
>
> Your Servant in Christ,
>
> Vince Perna
> The River Of Life
> Discount Christian Bookstore
> http://www.riveroflifecbs.com
>
2011-04-13 by River Of Life
>you can do the same with the sd1 by using any of the single cycle sounds
so the advice is: don't buy ANYTHING. program your own patches with the SD-1!!!
I don't get why he should be buying a TS10 or ASR10 when none of those has resonant filters! what's the advantage in buying synths that are very similar to the SD1?
F.
--- In Ensoniq-VFX-SD@yahoogroups.com, wrote:
>
> get a asr10 keyboard or ts10 then you can make your own fat pads like the supersaw of the jp8000 and virus
>
> its 8 saw waves slightly out of phase by pitch which make great pads then have the 2 filters with different setting for each cutoff for each of the layers then ad the chorus and echo fx and slightly pan each layer in the stereo feild
>
> and play fat to your harts content mod wheel to do cutoff
>
> you can do the same with the sd1 by using any of the single cycle sounds
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: River Of Life
> To: Ensoniq-VFX-SD@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2011 1:03 AM
> Subject: [Ensoniq-VFX-SD] Re: Pads
>
>
>
> Hi Guys,
>
> I am thinking of getting keyboard or rack unit that is very good for
> pads that would compliment the SD-1. I have some of the Syntaur
> Sounds libraries and am looking for better sounding pads. Any
> suggestions would be welcomed.
>
> Your Servant in Christ,
>
> Vince Perna
> The River Of Life
> Discount Christian Bookstore
> http://www.riveroflifecbs.com
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------
>
>
>
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2011-04-13 by Jon Carroll
ok, run your TS-10 through a resonant filter. ----- Original Message ----- From: "River Of Life" <riveroflifecbs@...> To: <Ensoniq-VFX-SD@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2011 5:40 PM Subject: Re: [Ensoniq-VFX-SD] Re: Pads I already own a TS-10. The pads just don't do it for me. Vince At 03:05 PM 4/12/2011, you wrote:
> > > >you can do the same with the sd1 by using any of the single cycle sounds > >so the advice is: don't buy ANYTHING. program >your own patches with the SD-1!!! > >I don't get why he should be buying a TS10 or >ASR10 when none of those has resonant filters! >what's the advantage in buying synths that are very similar to the SD1? > >F. > >--- In ><mailto:Ensoniq-VFX-SD%40yahoogroups.com>Ensoniq-VFX-SD@yahoogroups.com, ><jammie.emma@...> wrote: > > > > get a asr10 keyboard or ts10 then you can > make your own fat pads like the supersaw of the jp8000 and virus > > > > its 8 saw waves slightly out of phase by > pitch which make great pads then have the 2 > filters with different setting for each cutoff > for each of the layers then ad the chorus and > echo fx and slightly pan each layer in the stereo feild > > > > and play fat to your harts content mod wheel to do cutoff > > > > you can do the same with the sd1 by using any of the single cycle sounds > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: River Of Life > > To: > <mailto:Ensoniq-VFX-SD%40yahoogroups.com>Ensoniq-VFX-SD@yahoogroups.com > > Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2011 1:03 AM > > Subject: [Ensoniq-VFX-SD] Re: Pads > > > > > > > > Hi Guys, > > > > I am thinking of getting keyboard or rack unit that is very good for > > pads that would compliment the SD-1. I have some of the Syntaur > > Sounds libraries and am looking for better sounding pads. Any > > suggestions would be welcomed. > > > > Your Servant in Christ, > > > > Vince Perna > > The River Of Life > > Discount Christian Bookstore > > <http://www.riveroflifecbs.com>http://www.riveroflifecbs.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > > Version: 9.0.851 / Virus Database: > 271.1.1/3565 - Release Date: 04/11/11 07:35:00 > > > >
2011-04-13 by Rish
I Like the Yamaha TG500, they are capable of vary lush sounding pads. The Roland D550 is also a great old school pad maker. Rish Life is like MIDI, your either IN, OUT or THRU.
On Apr 12, 2011, at 7:40 PM, River Of Life <riveroflifecbs@...> wrote: > I already own a TS-10. The pads just don't do it for me. > > Vince > > > At 03:05 PM 4/12/2011, you wrote: > >> >> >> >you can do the same with the sd1 by using any of the single cycle sounds >> >> so the advice is: don't buy ANYTHING. program your own patches with the SD-1!!! >> >> I don't get why he should be buying a TS10 or ASR10 when none of those has resonant filters! what's the advantage in buying synths that are very similar to the SD1? >> >> F. >> >> --- In Ensoniq-VFX-SD@yahoogroups.com, <jammie.emma@...> wrote: >> > >> > get a asr10 keyboard or ts10 then you can make your own fat pads like the supersaw of the jp8000 and virus >> > >> > its 8 saw waves slightly out of phase by pitch which make great pads then have the 2 filters with different setting for each cutoff for each of the layers then ad the chorus and echo fx and slightly pan each layer in the stereo feild >> > >> > and play fat to your harts content mod wheel to do cutoff >> > >> > you can do the same with the sd1 by using any of the single cycle sounds >> > ----- Original Message ----- >> > From: River Of Life >> > To: Ensoniq-VFX-SD@yahoogroups.com >> > Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2011 1:03 AM >> > Subject: [Ensoniq-VFX-SD] Re: Pads >> > >> > >> > >> > Hi Guys, >> > >> > I am thinking of getting keyboard or rack unit that is very good for >> > pads that would compliment the SD-1. I have some of the Syntaur >> > Sounds libraries and am looking for better sounding pads. Any >> > suggestions would be welcomed. >> > >> > Your Servant in Christ, >> > >> > Vince Perna >> > The River Of Life >> > Discount Christian Bookstore >> > http://www.riveroflifecbs.com >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > ---------------------------------------------------------- >> > >> > >> > >> > No virus found in this incoming message. >> > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >> > Version: 9.0.851 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3565 - Release Date: 04/11/11 07:35:00 >> > >> > >
2011-04-13 by jammie.emma@blueyonder.co.uk
----- Original Message -----From: somethingkillingyouSent: Tuesday, April 12, 2011 8:05 PMSubject: [Ensoniq-VFX-SD] Re: Pads>you can do the same with the sd1 by using any of the single cycle sounds
so the advice is: don't buy ANYTHING. program your own patches with the SD-1!!!
I don't get why he should be buying a TS10 or ASR10 when none of those has resonant filters! what's the advantage in buying synths that are very similar to the SD1?
F.
--- In Ensoniq-VFX-SD@yahoogroups.com, wrote:
>
> get a asr10 keyboard or ts10 then you can make your own fat pads like the supersaw of the jp8000 and virus
>
> its 8 saw waves slightly out of phase by pitch which make great pads then have the 2 filters with different setting for each cutoff for each of the layers then ad the chorus and echo fx and slightly pan each layer in the stereo feild
>
> and play fat to your harts content mod wheel to do cutoff
>
> you can do the same with the sd1 by using any of the single cycle sounds
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: River Of Life
> To: Ensoniq-VFX-SD@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2011 1:03 AM
> Subject: [Ensoniq-VFX-SD] Re: Pads
>
>
>
> Hi Guys,
>
> I am thinking of getting keyboard or rack unit that is very good for
> pads that would compliment the SD-1. I have some of the Syntaur
> Sounds libraries and am looking for better sounding pads. Any
> suggestions would be welcomed.
>
> Your Servant in Christ,
>
> Vince Perna
> The River Of Life
> Discount Christian Bookstore
> http://www.riveroflifecbs.com
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------
>
>
>
> No virus found in this incoming message.
> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
> Version: 9.0.851 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3565 - Release Date: 04/11/11 07:35:00
>
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2011-04-13 by somethingkillingyou
that's true, but it's also true that between ts-10 and sd-1 there's not a really big sonic difference... I would go for something totally different. --- In Ensoniq-VFX-SD@yahoogroups.com, <jammie.emma@...> wrote:
> > as you can use your own samples and pads dont tend to use resonance > > and you can use transwaves and the waveboy disks > > some of the best digital synths never used resonant filters m1 wavestation t1 t2 t3 vfx sd1 sq1/2/r dx7 tx81z and many others > ----- Original Message ----- > From: somethingkillingyou > To: Ensoniq-VFX-SD@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2011 8:05 PM > Subject: [Ensoniq-VFX-SD] Re: Pads > > > > >you can do the same with the sd1 by using any of the single cycle sounds > > so the advice is: don't buy ANYTHING. program your own patches with the SD-1!!! > > I don't get why he should be buying a TS10 or ASR10 when none of those has resonant filters! what's the advantage in buying synths that are very similar to the SD1? > > F. > > --- In Ensoniq-VFX-SD@yahoogroups.com, <jammie.emma@> wrote: > > > > get a asr10 keyboard or ts10 then you can make your own fat pads like the supersaw of the jp8000 and virus > > > > its 8 saw waves slightly out of phase by pitch which make great pads then have the 2 filters with different setting for each cutoff for each of the layers then ad the chorus and echo fx and slightly pan each layer in the stereo feild > > > > and play fat to your harts content mod wheel to do cutoff > > > > you can do the same with the sd1 by using any of the single cycle sounds > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: River Of Life > > To: Ensoniq-VFX-SD@yahoogroups.com > > Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2011 1:03 AM > > Subject: [Ensoniq-VFX-SD] Re: Pads > > > > > > > > Hi Guys, > > > > I am thinking of getting keyboard or rack unit that is very good for > > pads that would compliment the SD-1. I have some of the Syntaur > > Sounds libraries and am looking for better sounding pads. Any > > suggestions would be welcomed. > > > > Your Servant in Christ, > > > > Vince Perna > > The River Of Life > > Discount Christian Bookstore > > http://www.riveroflifecbs.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > > Version: 9.0.851 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3565 - Release Date: 04/11/11 07:35:00 > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 9.0.872 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3568 - Release Date: 04/12/11 07:34:00 >
2011-04-14 by River Of Life
Hi Guys, I just listed a Roland Juno 2 on Ebay. The unit works fine except for the second lowest D key, which sounds as you are relaesing the key. It is in perfect condition with no dings or scratches. http://cgi.ebay.com/Roland-Juno-2-Synthesizer-/140534461030?pt=Keyboards_MIDI&hash=item20b881b266 Your Servant in Christ, Vince Perna The River Of Life Discount Christian Bookstore http://www.riveroflifecbs.com