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Keyboard Receive Error

Keyboard Receive Error

2002-09-28 by Chris Rolland

Hi All . . . I've just joined the group. I used to own a VFX (I 
bought one of the first), and kept it for 3 happy years before part-
ex ing it for a Korg 01/Wpro . . . big mistake . . . I wanted my VFX 
back after a week, but the shop had already sold it!. I bought a 
second-hand VFX a couple of years ago in non-working order, and have 
done various repairs (actually it was dead simple . . . fuses, new 
ROMs, clean the cartridge connector, new battery etc. etc).

I now have a problem I can't work out . . . I don't think it's 
related to the infamous "Calibration" fault, but I wil bow to 
anyone's better judgement. If I leave the VFX off for a long time
(days), when I turn it back on I get either a "Keyboard Receive 
Error", or a Calibration error (If I ignore this none of the notes 
work). If I leave it on in this state for about 5 minutes a couple of 
soft "clicks" can be heard, and if I reboot all is well (apart from a 
few "ghost" notes until it's really warm). If I leave it on for a 
while I sometimes can hear the odd soft click, so I wondered about 
the dodgy connector . . .

Now before I wield soldering Iron to implement the Calibration fix, 
is this going to solve the problem, or should I just bin the Keyboard 
module and get another one? I've got all the schematics EXCEPT the 
Keyboard Module, and the Service Manuals, but there is no mention of 
this error.

Any ideas anyone?

Re: [Ensoniq-VFX-SD] Keyboard Receive Error

2002-09-30 by Charles Bigstone

Hi Chris!
Being a happy owner to a VFX (SD in my case) could give you some hard time works, but it\ufffds worth it.
I'm not keeping somekind of superknowlegde about this synth but I've read some articels about various problems including the part where it tends to die during OnStage prefomance, a very nasty thing and embarasing I would guess.
However, I belive that your problem lies in bad (read old) solderings. Usyally things happens when the powersupply gets warmed upp and the case is "heated up". Your experience with the 'verry' warm supply on the back of the VST is normal prefomance. You could mount a fan onto the rear, I've seen souch devices for both VFX, EPS and other series by Ensoniq. Demount your keyboard and turn the pcb's up side down and use a magnifying glass and check all soldering points by all connectors, especially those who are connecting the keyboard pcb's. Never have had the problem my self but the former owner had it for repair on a good repair chack who told him what the ectually did with his keyboard, resoldered bad solderings. Somewhere I read that it was better to put wires instead of the original conectors between the pcb's due to the bad electrical connection made by oxcidation etc. .

 Similar things I have been reading in several articels on the net. Well, this might not be to any help but at least I've been telling you what I know. Just the fact that the rear part gets hot could make the capacitors in the powersupply to dry out and therefore give the keyboard non filtraded DC power wich could get the whole synth out of order. Try to replace them with new ones. Allso check the diodes. If it doesent help... well you just got a problem less in the future...IF you get it to work. Keep up the good work! (Hope my English is readable.)

/Charles
 Chris Rolland wrote:Hi All . . . I've just joined the group. I used to own a VFX (I 
bought one of the first), and kept it for 3 happy years before part-
ex ing it for a Korg 01/Wpro . . . big mistake . . . I wanted my VFX 
back after a week, but the shop had already sold it!. I bought a 
second-hand VFX a couple of years ago in non-working order, and have 
done various repairs (actually it was dead simple . . . fuses, new 
ROMs, clean the cartridge connector, new battery etc. etc).

I now have a problem I can't work out . . . I don't think it's 
related to the infamous "Calibration" fault, but I wil bow to 
anyone's better judgement. If I leave the VFX off for a long time
(days), when I turn it back on I get either a "Keyboard Receive 
Error", or a Calibration error (If I ignore this none of the notes 
work). If I leave it on in this state for about 5 minutes a couple of 
soft "clicks" can be heard, and if I reboot all is well (apart from a 
few "ghost" notes until it's really warm). If I leave it on for a 
while I sometimes can hear the odd soft click, so I wondered about 
the dodgy connector . . .

Now before I wield soldering Iron to implement the Calibration fix, 
is this going to solve the problem, or should I just bin the Keyboard 
module and get another one? I've got all the schematics EXCEPT the 
Keyboard Module, and the Service Manuals, but there is no mention of 
this error.

Any ideas anyone?



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Re: [Ensoniq-VFX-SD] Keyboard Receive Error

2002-09-30 by tim sullivan

battery ?


On Saturday, Sep 28, 2002, at 06:30PM, Chris Rolland <chris_i_rolland@...> wrote:

>Hi All . . . I've just joined the group. I used to own a VFX (I 
>bought one of the first), and kept it for 3 happy years before part-
>ex ing it for a Korg 01/Wpro . . . big mistake . . . I wanted my VFX 
>back after a week, but the shop had already sold it!. I bought a 
>second-hand VFX a couple of years ago in non-working order, and have 
>done various repairs (actually it was dead simple . . . fuses, new 
>ROMs, clean the cartridge connector, new battery etc. etc).
>
>I now have a problem I can't work out . . . I don't think it's 
>related to the infamous "Calibration" fault, but I wil bow to 
>anyone's better judgement. If I leave the VFX off for a long time
>(days), when I turn it back on I get either a "Keyboard Receive 
>Error", or a Calibration error (If I ignore this none of the notes 
>work). If I leave it on in this state for about 5 minutes a couple of 
>soft "clicks" can be heard, and if I reboot all is well (apart from a 
>few "ghost" notes until it's really warm). If I leave it on for a 
>while I sometimes can hear the odd soft click, so I wondered about 
>the dodgy connector . . .
>
>Now before I wield soldering Iron to implement the Calibration fix, 
>is this going to solve the problem, or should I just bin the Keyboard 
>module and get another one? I've got all the schematics EXCEPT the 
>Keyboard Module, and the Service Manuals, but there is no mention of 
>this error.
>
>Any ideas anyone?
>
>
>
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>
 

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http://www.digitraxs.com
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Re: Keyboard Receive Error

2002-09-30 by Steve Wahl

> 
> Message: 1
>    Date: Sat, 28 Sep 2002 22:30:32 -0000
>    From: "Chris Rolland" <chris_i_rolland@...>
> Subject: Keyboard Receive Error
> 
> Hi All . . . I've just joined the group. I used to own a VFX (I 
> bought one of the first), and kept it for 3 happy years before part-
> ex ing it for a Korg 01/Wpro . . . big mistake . . . I wanted my VFX 
> back after a week, but the shop had already sold it!. I bought a 
> second-hand VFX a couple of years ago in non-working order, and have 
> done various repairs (actually it was dead simple . . . fuses, new 
> ROMs, clean the cartridge connector, new battery etc. etc).
> 
> I now have a problem I can't work out . . . I don't think it's 
> related to the infamous "Calibration" fault, but I wil bow to 
> anyone's better judgement. If I leave the VFX off for a long time
> (days), when I turn it back on I get either a "Keyboard Receive 
> Error", or a Calibration error (If I ignore this none of the notes 
> work). If I leave it on in this state for about 5 minutes a couple of 
> soft "clicks" can be heard, and if I reboot all is well (apart from a 
> few "ghost" notes until it's really warm). If I leave it on for a 
> while I sometimes can hear the odd soft click, so I wondered about 
> the dodgy connector . . .
> 
> Now before I wield soldering Iron to implement the Calibration fix, 
> is this going to solve the problem, or should I just bin the Keyboard 
> module and get another one? I've got all the schematics EXCEPT the 
> Keyboard Module, and the Service Manuals, but there is no mention of 
> this error.

I don't think anyone will be able to tell you for sure that the
calibration fix will fix your particular problem.

But it is so easy to do (especially for someone who has already
tackled fuses, roms, battery, etc.) that you can't lose giving it a
shot.  I do think the symptoms you describe sound *similar* to the
things we've seen with the keyboard before.

The VFXsd that I purchased used had the usual keyboard calibration
failure syndromes (ghost notes, etc), and the original owner didn't
know if the hardwired keyboard mod had been done or not, so I figured
I knew what was wrong, and got a good deal on it.  I opened it up to
perform the fix, and much to my dismay, I discovered the keyboard was
already hard wired.

However, I re-soldered the joints, cleaned up all the other
connections, put it back together, and I haven't had a single problem
since (I'm sure it's been at least 3 years).

The keyboard calibration failure fix simply deals with intermittent
connections on the keyboard assembly, going to the extreme of
replacing some of the connetions with wires instead of connectors.  If
you feel it's any less effort than doing the full keyboard mod, just
take it all apart, clean all connections, and put it back together
again, and see if that changes the symtoms at all.  If it does, then
you know what problem you're looking at, and that you'll eventually
have to do it.  (The connection to hard-wire is the one between the
two boards that, together, go the length of the keybed.  Be sure to
get that connection clean.)

Good luck!

--> Steve Wahl

Re: [Ensoniq-VFX-SD] Keyboard Receive Error

2002-09-30 by tim sullivan

regarding the live onstage issues....
once i bought a Zero Surge Eliminator , all of the VFX onstage unexplained reboots disappeared

apparently the light-show system demands 
and midi-signals bouncing around the stage between the 
VFX- jlcooper msb, drum pad, bass pedals, other synths - 
really caused constant vfx system reboots , oddities etc on any stage we played

but this little $150 Eliminator saved us back then
i still have it and they still make them


On Monday, Sep 30, 2002, at 09:10AM, Charles Bigstone <vfxuser@...> wrote:
...problems including the part where it tends to die during OnStage prefomance, a very nasty thing and embarasing I would guess. 

===================
Tim Sullivan
http://www.digitraxs.com
===================

Re: [Ensoniq-VFX-SD] Keyboard Receive Error

2002-09-30 by Charles Bigstone

Hmm... of course, lots of nasty spikes trough the mains is not easy to get ridd of. :-)
Thank's for the tip. By the way, is there any one having a mixermap for the VFX-SD or the VFX? Would help me alot. (Using Cubase on PC...and Atari!)
/VfxUser
 tim sullivan wrote:regarding the live onstage issues....
once i bought a Zero Surge Eliminator , all of the VFX onstage unexplained reboots disappeared

apparently the light-show system demands 
and midi-signals bouncing around the stage between the 
VFX- jlcooper msb, drum pad, bass pedals, other synths - 
really caused constant vfx system reboots , oddities etc on any stage we played

but this little $150 Eliminator saved us back then
i still have it and they still make them


On Monday, Sep 30, 2002, at 09:10AM, Charles Bigstone <vfxuser@...> wrote:
...problems including the part where it tends to die during OnStage prefomance, a very nasty thing and embarasing I would guess. 

===================
Tim Sullivan
http://www.digitraxs.com
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