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display question....

display question....

2002-09-30 by mzape

does anyone know if it's possible to replace the LED display with a 
backlit LCD?---it would be easier to read in dark clubs and, if so, 
what size?  FYI: i have a VFX-SD w/ 32-voice factory upgrade [like an 
SD-1]
TIA,
max

Re: [Ensoniq-VFX-SD] display question....

2002-10-01 by mishon66@aol.com

In a message dated Mon, 30 Sep 2002 1:45:50 PM Eastern Standard Time, mzape@... writes:

> 
> 
> does anyone know if it's possible to replace the LED display with a 
> backlit LCD?---it would be easier to read in dark clubs and, if so, 
> what size?  FYI: i have a VFX-SD w/ 32-voice factory upgrade [like an 
> SD-1]
> TIA,
> max
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What? your kidding right?
Rich

Re: display question....

2002-10-01 by mzape

rich,
I wish I was kidding; my LED display is starting to fade and rather 
than replace it w/ another LED I'd really like to put in a backlit 
LCD, so if you or anyone can help------kewl.  if not, bugger off....
cheers,
max
--- In Ensoniq-VFX-SD@y..., mishon66@a... wrote:
> In a message dated Mon, 30 Sep 2002 1:45:50 PM Eastern Standard 
Time, mzape@y... writes:
> 
> > 
> > 
> > does anyone know if it's possible to replace the LED display with 
a 
> > backlit LCD?---it would be easier to read in dark clubs and, if 
so, 
> > what size?  FYI: i have a VFX-SD w/ 32-voice factory upgrade 
[like an 
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> > SD-1]
> > TIA,
> > max
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
> > Ensoniq-VFX-SD-unsubscribe@e...
> > 
> > 
> > 
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> > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
> 
> What? your kidding right?
> Rich

Re: [Ensoniq-VFX-SD] Re: display question....

2002-10-01 by mishon66@aol.com

In a message dated Tue, 1 Oct 2002 2:09:57 AM Eastern Standard Time, mzape@... writes:

> 
> 
> rich,
> I wish I was kidding; my LED display is starting to fade and rather 
> than replace it w/ another LED I'd really like to put in a backlit 
> LCD, so if you or anyone can help------kewl.  if not, bugger off....
> cheers,
> max
> --- In Ensoniq-VFX-SD@y..., mishon66@a... wrote:
> > In a message dated Mon, 30 Sep 2002 1:45:50 PM Eastern Standard 
> Time, mzape@y... writes:
> > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > does anyone know if it's possible to replace the LED display with 
> a 
> > > backlit LCD?---it would be easier to read in dark clubs and, if 
> so, 
> > > what size?  FYI: i have a VFX-SD w/ 32-voice factory upgrade 
> [like an 
> > > SD-1]
> > > TIA,
> > > max
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
> > > Ensoniq-VFX-SD-unsubscribe@e...
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to 
> > > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
> > 
> > What? your kidding right?
> > Rich
> 
> 
> 
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Hummmmm. are you missing segemnts or just fading? if it's just fading 98% chance it's not the display it's the diodes on the power supply and I wouldnt use the unit agian until they are fixed. You can burn the CPU if you keep running it that way.
Richard

Re: display question....

2002-10-02 by mzape

richard,
i'm losing segments [like the number "9" looks like a reversed 
question mark, "8" looks like a "6", etc.] the display is still 
brite, but the segments are going. right now, it's just a 
couple.....that's why i threw out the question about replacing the 
LED, hoping that some brave soul may have attempted or successfully 
replaced the LED with a non-standard [backlit] LCD.  i imagine that 
it could be done, since both displays use similar voltages. i believe 
there are issues with the soft keys around the display, which i hope 
can be overcomed---any hardware hackers? i'm not afraid to fire-up my 
soldering iron..........or rewrite some eeprom code........TIA,
cheers,
max
--- In Ensoniq-VFX-SD@y..., mishon66@a... wrote:
> In a message dated Tue, 1 Oct 2002 2:09:57 AM Eastern Standard 
Time, mzape@y... writes:
> 
> > 
> > 
> > rich,
> > I wish I was kidding; my LED display is starting to fade and 
rather 
> > than replace it w/ another LED I'd really like to put in a 
backlit 
> > LCD, so if you or anyone can help------kewl.  if not, bugger 
off....
> > cheers,
> > max
> > --- In Ensoniq-VFX-SD@y..., mishon66@a... wrote:
> > > In a message dated Mon, 30 Sep 2002 1:45:50 PM Eastern Standard 
> > Time, mzape@y... writes:
> > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > does anyone know if it's possible to replace the LED display 
with 
> > a 
> > > > backlit LCD?---it would be easier to read in dark clubs and, 
if 
> > so, 
> > > > what size?  FYI: i have a VFX-SD w/ 32-voice factory upgrade 
> > [like an 
> > > > SD-1]
> > > > TIA,
> > > > max
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
> > > > Ensoniq-VFX-SD-unsubscribe@e...
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to 
> > > > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
> > > 
> > > What? your kidding right?
> > > Rich
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
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> > 
> > 
> > 
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> 
> Hummmmm. are you missing segemnts or just fading? if it's just 
fading 98% chance it's not the display it's the diodes on the power 
supply and I wouldnt use the unit agian until they are fixed. You can 
burn the CPU if you keep running it that way.
> Richard

Re: [Ensoniq-VFX-SD] Re: display question....

2002-10-02 by Suzanne Archibald

On Wednesday, October 2, 2002, at 05:11 AM, mzape wrote:

> richard,
> i'm losing segments [like the number "9" looks like a reversed
> question mark, "8" looks like a "6", etc.] the display is still
> brite, but the segments are going. right now, it's just a
> couple.....that's why i threw out the question about replacing the
> LED, hoping that some brave soul may have attempted or successfully
> replaced the LED with a non-standard [backlit] LCD.  i imagine that
> it could be done, since both displays use similar voltages. i believe
>

Except it perhaps can't. The VFX/SD displays aren't LEDs, they're VFD 
(Vacuum Fluorescent Display) and typically work on much higher 
voltages/currents than LEDs)

Even if you choose to replace the VFD with a new VFD, you have major 
problems - VFDs fell out of fashion around the late 80s/early 90s, and 
there are barely any manufacturers left, the chances there is a drop-in 
*new* replacement are slim. Of course, Richard probably has some spares.

All that said, you MAY be lucky.. when LCDs started to become popular, 
the last few VFD manufacturers started to (and still do) use the common 
14pin LCD interface instead of custom interfaces, if the VFD Ensoniq 
chose fell into this category, you *might* be able to use standard 
14-pin LCD as a drop in by replacing the VFD section of the 
display/soft-button module. (if it is a common 14-pin interface, you 
could also use one of the new VFD modules - but be aware, the few VFDs 
on the market are extremely expensive, even more than LCDs)

Btw, VFDs are generally much easier to see in a dark environment than a 
LCD (or even LED), even backlit, since the contrast on a LCD is 
reversed to what the human eye wants to see (dark object on a bright 
background) and the backlighting is rarely very bright.

Re: [Ensoniq-VFX-SD] Re: display question....

2002-10-02 by mishon66@aol.com

In a message dated Wed, 2 Oct 2002 10:29:03 AM Eastern Standard Time, suzanne@... writes:

> 
> 
> 
> On Wednesday, October 2, 2002, at 05:11 AM, mzape wrote:
> 
> > richard,
> > i'm losing segments [like the number "9" looks like a reversed
> > question mark, "8" looks like a "6", etc.] the display is still
> > brite, but the segments are going. right now, it's just a
> > couple.....that's why i threw out the question about replacing the
> > LED, hoping that some brave soul may have attempted or successfully
> > replaced the LED with a non-standard [backlit] LCD.  i imagine that
> > it could be done, since both displays use similar voltages. i believe
> >
> 
> Except it perhaps can't. The VFX/SD displays aren't LEDs, they're VFD 
> (Vacuum Fluorescent Display) and typically work on much higher 
> voltages/currents than LEDs)
> 
> Even if you choose to replace the VFD with a new VFD, you have major 
> problems - VFDs fell out of fashion around the late 80s/early 90s, and 
> there are barely any manufacturers left, the chances there is a drop-in 
> *new* replacement are slim. Of course, Richard probably has some spares.
> 
> All that said, you MAY be lucky.. when LCDs started to become popular, 
> the last few VFD manufacturers started to (and still do) use the common 
> 14pin LCD interface instead of custom interfaces, if the VFD Ensoniq 
> chose fell into this category, you *might* be able to use standard 
> 14-pin LCD as a drop in by replacing the VFD section of the 
> display/soft-button module. (if it is a common 14-pin interface, you 
> could also use one of the new VFD modules - but be aware, the few VFDs 
> on the market are extremely expensive, even more than LCDs)
> 
> Btw, VFDs are generally much easier to see in a dark environment than a 
> LCD (or even LED), even backlit, since the contrast on a LCD is 
> reversed to what the human eye wants to see (dark object on a bright 
> background) and the backlighting is rarely very bright.
> 
> 
> 
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> 
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That's a mouth full! Well I have had at least 30 VFX family synths come in the shop here, all were complaints that the display was shot and in every case we found it to be the diodes on the transformer board. Yours is the first VFX family synth I have came accrossed with missing segements, we have ASR10 samplers all the time. I will check into a spare for you.
Richard

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