Fairlight-CMI

Recording Fairlight in a protools is a no sense; just like copying a 
HD DVD on a VHS. Do you know what multiplexing is ? 


Emu II and III were great despite a sound less punchy than the 
Fairlight. Emu 4 has just an anemic sound.Only the filter are ... 
interesting.
Depeche Mode used them ( emu2 and 3 )for concert as it' s more easy 
to bring on the road. Fairlight stays in studio.
The sales of Depeche Mode have dropped the day they left all this 
good stuff, didn' t you noticed ?
Many hits were done with Fairlights, never heard they had to use a 
preamp guitar to increase the sound. I' ve owned 5 fairlights and 
never had a problem. In my studio sessions, sound engineers just 
complained about the level of my fairlights that overloaded their 
Neve' s console.
Since 16 years, I ve worked as sound programmer/designer in hi-tech 
studio in France, as Guillaume Tell, Mega, Ferber, Plus XXX with many 
well knowed people . So I know what I say or hear.
 About the cd compilation of your friend, I' ve my own and signifiant 
library . It may be interesting for non Fairlight users.

What do you mean by "dark sound" ? never heard of this term,  you 
don' t have hi frequencies?  The fairlight produce sounds from 5hz to 
100 khz. Just open the filters ;°)  and once again, the factory 
sounds are crap as many of them were recorded 27 years ago with cmi 1 
( only 8 khz of bandwith ). I' ve just kept 5 sounds of the original 
library.

--- In Fairlight-CMI@yahoogroups.com, Laurent/LIFELIKE <lifelike@...> 
wrote:
>
> Emu samplers...  Depeche mode used them since
> ages for their albums and are today working on protools like  
> everybody. Please talk about things you know.
> I did a entire single on Emulator IV it sounds great. The track is  
> called Discopolis, you can even check it on itunes: Lifelike & 
Kris  
> Menace - Discopolis
> Once again im speaking about ppl using their fairlight on recent  
> record and you give me a list of hardware specs....
> Yes i need a guitar preamp to make it sound clearer and more 
punchy  
> because the sound is dark, very dynamic but very dark, and you 
need  
> lots of highs on the mixing desk.
> But if im wrong what you could do is record one of your songs  
> directly from the ouput of your FIIx into protools and show me how 
it  
> sounds ? probably yours has a more clearer sound if it was 
developped  
> specially for you ? LOL
> Im speaking here about the Fairlight IIx.
> By the way if you are interested, i got a friend developping a 
CDROM  
> right now from his Fairlight IIx sample library, it was developped 
on  
> a Emulator III and it works on E IV, and even software samplers. 
He  
> is even recreated big sounds you got on old record combining some 
of  
> the classic waveform.
> If you are interested in getting the demo of this cd, you can  
email  
> me i will forward it to my friend.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Le 15 déc. 06 à 07:21, paradyse_james a écrit :
> 
> > Emu has nothing in common with Fairlight sounds, dynamic is poor.
> > I only use my emu when I need more polyphony.
> > I also noticed a big problem with emu and soft samplers: more you 
add
> > voices , less it sounds good. Thanks to the multiplexing 
technology;
> > THE big disease for sound quality.
> > The fairlight IIx goes down 5Hz ( infra bass ), as you say actual
> > standard are not the same lol
> > I create my sounds with many synthesizers and computers ( EMS,
> > oberheim, Fairlight, Emu, Silicon Graphics etc ) . My mfx2 is 
only 24
> > tracks , a little difficult to mix an entire project ( music + 
sound
> > fx ) . So my clients rent a studio to mix my projects. Protools is
> > everywere , especially in France :(((
> > Many artists still use sometimes the Fairlight to have those
> > particular sounds , but do you know an other system that is used
> > alone to produce an entire album ?
> > Actually, very few are still writing the gear they use on the 
cover.
> > We are not anymore in the 80' s when artist were proud to use a 
moog
> > or a synclavier.
> > Jarre, Peter Gabriel, Hans Zimmer are still fishing in their
> > Fairlight library .Duran Duran have recently bought back their
> > Fairlight. In fat boy slim titles, I definitly recognise some
> > Fairlight use on loops.
> >
> > If you only use the crappy fairlight IIx factory library, I
> > understand you don' t like it. The best is to record your own 
sounds,
> > I simply erased 70 % of the original disks.
> > Or perhaps do you have a broken Fairlight, it's really strange you
> > need to you use a preamp guitar !!? are you sure you don' t have 
an
> > akai S1000 inside ? lol
> > Also , did you notice that artists were selling very few albums 
since
> > they all use protools and cheap computers/synth/samplers ?
> > The best selling albums had a Fairlight acting in the sessions (
> > excepted the Beatles ). People love tremendous sounds .
> >
> > ps: you should write cmi2x ou cmi IIx , not FIIx
> > ps2:An other system exists to create stunning sounds, it' s called
> > Kyma. Lucas Film daily use it for all his movies ( Star wars, 
Nemo,
> > etc ). Aphex twin made some mixing with it ( listen to windows
> > licker )... but you won' t see it written on the cover lol
> > Secret weapons are not divulged for the public.
> >
> > --- In Fairlight-CMI@yahoogroups.com, Laurent/LIFELIKE <lifelike@>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Well Im speaking about guys doing real records and selling them
> > on
> > > the real market, not about guys owning the sampler for 
collection
> > or
> > > to show to you girlfriend that u got a very big one (big sampler
> > of
> > > course :-))))
> > > Im open to check the record stores if u got a band/artist name
> > from
> > > today who did his entire album on a fairlight II/III, please 
give
> > me
> > > the names and we will check on the cover of his record if it was
> > > right. It could be an interesting challenge.
> > > Also you say its the best sounding sampler, but if its the best
> > > sounding gear why dont u use it with ur client instead of
> > protools...
> > > because nobody is using it on new records ? :)))
> > > I also own a FIIx the sound is just a piece of crap for today
> > > standart, you need to plug it in a very good preamp then in a
> > guitar
> > > amp to really get THAT sound u hear on old records... and once u
> > want
> > > to play chords you need a lot of patience and ouput to have it 
done.
> > > but for sure it was a nice tools 25years ago
> > > Regarding the FIII, im sure it got a nice sound, but it probably
> > do
> > > well comparing to Emulator IV or III which got quite the same
> > sonic
> > > spec and to my ears Emu got the best sounding samplers, hardware
> > > samplers i mean.
> > > A matter of taste i think
> > > But its a nice debate anyway !
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Le 14 déc. 06 à 22:33, paradyse_james a écrit :
> > >
> > > > Well, when you already own a Fairlight ( and they are 
hundreds to
> > be
> > > > owned :)) you don' t care about the price or the weight !
> > > > If It' s there , in your studio, you just need to move your 
hand
> > to
> > > > use
> > > > it.
> > > > How did you established that nobody use the fairlight 
anymore ?
> > > > Every week I heard about artists using Fairlight(s) in studio.
> > > >
> > > > About the sound, on a project with massive Fairlight use, the
> > overall
> > > > quality is way better than project done with protools or soft
> > > > samplers. But if you just use the series III marimba sample, 
no
> > doubt
> > > > it will change a lot of thing.
> > > > I noticed that the cmiII sounds were more interesting and had 
more
> > > > character in a mix. It creates really strange sounds . The 
cmi3
> > is
> > > > just
> > > > a very good sampler but less creative than his little brother.
> > 10
> > > > years
> > > > ago I get ride of my cmi3 to buy a mfx2 , it's still the best
> > sounding
> > > > dtd .
> > > > I daily use protools Hd/ Apogee with my clients, the sound is 
just
> > > > missing something : presence and dynamic.
> > > > I own all the hardware samplers that can exist and none of 
them is
> > > > enough good to replay the Fairlight sounds. I' ve transfered 
all
> > the
> > > > fairlight LIbrairies in the Emu4 and Kontakt/Halion 
softsamplers
> > but
> > > > the original stays at an other level; this level that brings 
you
> > > > inspiration.
> > > >
> > > > --- In Fairlight-CMI@yahoogroups.com, Laurent/LIFELIKE 
<lifelike@>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > well today nobody's doing records with a fairlight II or 
III;
> > this
> > > > is
> > > > > a heavy machine, cost a lot
> > > > > and the character is not what listeners are able to catch, 
they
> > > > catch
> > > > > nice melodies and great compositions done with a fairlight 
or
> > with a
> > > > > akai or on a zx spectrum, who cares
> > > > > is somebody here using his fairlight on NEW records ?
> > > > > but this library project would for sure get audience, 
because
> > the
> > > > > library is still interesting.
> > > > >
> > > > > Laurent
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