Fairlight-CMI

Hi,

Unfortunately I'm not a Fairlight user. But my main sampler is the Emulator III.

How is it that no-one has ever released CD-ROM's in a contemporary audio format with 
the Fairlight Series III library on it?

The EIII library CD-ROM's are widely available, The IIx library can be found on CD-ROM 
and at one time the Synclavier library was available on CD-ROM's. But no Series III to this 
day...

I don't think that it's a question of copyright since the IIx library is already out there. 

So what's the main reason? Is it because no-one has ever found the time to convert the 
4GB of samples? 
Or is the library part of the value of second hand Series III? Meaning that if the library 
should be widely available it would lower the appeal and second hand prices of the Series 
III?

So are there any other non-Fairlight users out there that want it?

Is anyone planning to convert the library in the future?

Regards,
David Vandenborn
http://dvdborn.blogspot.com

I think it's safe to say that the possibility of the Series III
library becoming availible does not exist in the near future. The
reason for this is the fact that poeple still buy Series III's because
of their library (and other abilities). At this point in time, the
library can't be had by any other means. This adds to the value of a
complete Series III. Not owning a Fairlight myself, I would love to
get my hands on some real Series III samples. Perhaps someday, the
samples will be made availible. CMI's were very well-built, but even
they are not immune to breakdown. In the event of a failure, the cost
of repair is incredible. I personally am going to start saving up for
a complete Series III, as I really must have those sounds. It will
reqire me to sell most of my analog synthesizers, but it will be well
worth it.


Regards,

Dustin

--- In Fairlight-CMI@yahoogroups.com, "dvdborn" <dvdborn@...> wrote:
>
> Hi,
> 
> Unfortunately I'm not a Fairlight user. But my main sampler is the
Emulator III.
> 
> How is it that no-one has ever released CD-ROM's in a contemporary
audio format with 
> the Fairlight Series III library on it?
> 
> The EIII library CD-ROM's are widely available, The IIx library can
be found on CD-ROM 
> and at one time the Synclavier library was available on CD-ROM's.
But no Series III to this 
> day...
> 
> I don't think that it's a question of copyright since the IIx
library is already out there. 
> 
> So what's the main reason? Is it because no-one has ever found the
time to convert the 
> 4GB of samples? 
> Or is the library part of the value of second hand Series III?
Meaning that if the library 
> should be widely available it would lower the appeal and second hand
prices of the Series 

> III?
> 
> So are there any other non-Fairlight users out there that want it?
> 
> Is anyone planning to convert the library in the future?
> 
> Regards,
> David Vandenborn
> http://dvdborn.blogspot.com
>

The sound of the Fairlight CMI III is quite unique and nothing else compares to it.  The AD/
DA's and Filtering are what make this instrument so exceptional.  I've owned nearly every 
sampler made and have never been able to port or sample CMI sounds directly into another 
sampler and have them sound anywhere close to the original.  This is a testament to the 
CMI's incredible sonic quality due to its build using such high quality parts.  Whether or not 
someone releases a CMI III sample CD library is irrelevant as it will never come close to 
sound of the original.

Now, if only someone would take the time to resample the Fairlight Series III Library.

I know that this will be a gigantic task. 

I recently converted the complete Emulator II sample library from 5 1/4 floppies to AIFF files, 
sample dumping them from an Oberheim DPX-1 into Alchemy. I can tell you that midi sample 
dump is not a fast solution.

David
http://dvdborn.blogspot.com


--- In Fairlight-CMI@yahoogroups.com, Laurent/LIFELIKE <lifelike@...> wrote:

> but this library project would for sure get audience, because the  
> library is still interesting.
> 
> Laurent

David,

 

Any chance you may make that converted EII library available ? ;o)

 

Rob. 

 

  _____  

From: Fairlight-CMI@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Fairlight-CMI@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of dvdborn
Sent: 13 December 2006 21:18
To: Fairlight-CMI@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Fairlight-CMI] Re: Series III Library availability

 

Now, if only someone would take the time to resample the Fairlight Series
III Library.

I know that this will be a gigantic task. 

I recently converted the complete Emulator II sample library from 5 1/4
floppies to AIFF files, 
sample dumping them from an Oberheim DPX-1 into Alchemy. I can tell you that
midi sample 
dump is not a fast solution.

David
http://dvdborn. <http://dvdborn.blogspot.com> blogspot.com

--- In Fairlight-CMI@ <mailto:Fairlight-CMI%40yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups.com, Laurent/LIFELIKE <lifelike@...> wrote:

> but this library project would for sure get audience, because the 
> library is still interesting.
> 
> Laurent

Hi,

To all who inquired about the EII sample library.

For the moment I'm keeping this project private. 
The samples are converted, still need to create the programs with them.

I didn't know that a lot of you are interested in this library. 

Of course if someone would care to trade them for the Series III library, or a portion of it. 
I'd me more than happy at this point. ;-)

Best,
David
http://dvdborn.blogspot.com


--- In Fairlight-CMI@yahoogroups.com, "Rob Puricelli" <rob@...> wrote:

>
> David,
> 
>  
> 
> Any chance you may make that converted EII library available ? ;o)
> 
>  
> 
> Rob.

Well, when you already own a Fairlight ( and they are hundreds to be 
owned :)) you don' t care about the price or the weight ! 
If It' s there , in your studio, you just need to move your hand to use 
it.
How did you established that nobody use the fairlight anymore ?
Every week I heard about artists using Fairlight(s) in studio.

About the sound, on a project with massive Fairlight use, the overall 
quality  is way better than project done with protools or soft 
samplers. But if you just use the series III marimba sample, no doubt 
it will change a lot of thing. 
I noticed that the cmiII sounds were more interesting and had more 
character in a mix. It creates really strange sounds . The cmi3 is just 
a very good sampler but less creative than his little brother. 10 years 
ago I get ride of my cmi3 to buy a mfx2 , it's still the best sounding 
dtd .
I daily use protools Hd/ Apogee with my clients, the sound is just 
missing something : presence and dynamic.
I own all the hardware samplers that can exist and none of them is 
enough good to replay the Fairlight sounds. I' ve transfered all the 
fairlight LIbrairies in the Emu4 and Kontakt/Halion softsamplers but 
the original stays at an other level; this level that brings you 
inspiration.

--- In Fairlight-CMI@yahoogroups.com, Laurent/LIFELIKE <lifelike@...> 
wrote:
>
> well today nobody's doing records with a fairlight II or III; this 
is  
> a heavy machine, cost a lot
> and the character is not what listeners are able to catch, they 
catch  

> nice melodies and great compositions done with a fairlight or with a  
> akai or on a zx spectrum, who cares
> is somebody here using his fairlight on NEW records ?
> but this library project would for sure get audience, because the  
> library is still interesting.
> 
> Laurent
> --
>

Emu has nothing in common with Fairlight sounds, dynamic is poor.
I only use my emu when I need more polyphony.
I also noticed a big problem with emu and soft samplers: more you add 
voices , less it sounds good. Thanks to the multiplexing technology; 
THE big disease for sound quality.
The fairlight IIx goes down 5Hz ( infra bass ), as you say actual 
standard are not the same lol
I create my sounds with many synthesizers and computers ( EMS, 
oberheim, Fairlight, Emu, Silicon Graphics etc ) . My mfx2 is only 24 
tracks , a little difficult to mix an entire project ( music + sound 
fx ) . So my clients rent a studio to mix my projects. Protools is 
everywere , especially in France :((( 
Many artists still use sometimes the Fairlight to have those 
particular sounds , but do you know an other system that is used 
alone to produce an entire album ?
 Actually, very few are still writing the gear they use on the cover. 
We are not anymore in the 80' s when artist were proud to use a moog 
or a synclavier.
Jarre, Peter Gabriel, Hans Zimmer are still fishing in their 
Fairlight library .Duran Duran have recently bought back their 
Fairlight. In fat boy slim titles, I definitly recognise some 
Fairlight use on loops.

If you only use the crappy fairlight IIx factory library, I 
understand you don' t like it. The best is to record your own sounds, 
I simply erased 70 % of the original disks.
 Or perhaps do you have a broken Fairlight, it's really strange you 
need to you use a preamp guitar !!? are you sure you don' t have an 
akai S1000 inside ? lol
Also , did you notice that artists were selling very few albums since 
they all use protools and cheap computers/synth/samplers ?
The best selling albums had a Fairlight acting in the sessions ( 
excepted the Beatles ). People love tremendous sounds .

ps: you should write cmi2x ou cmi IIx , not FIIx
ps2:An other system exists to create stunning sounds, it' s called 
Kyma. Lucas Film daily use it for all his movies ( Star wars, Nemo, 
etc ). Aphex twin made some mixing with it ( listen to windows 
licker )... but you won' t see it written on the cover lol
Secret weapons are not divulged for the public.




--- In Fairlight-CMI@yahoogroups.com, Laurent/LIFELIKE <lifelike@...> 
wrote:
>
>   Well Im speaking about guys doing real records and selling them 
on  
> the real market, not about guys owning the sampler for collection 
or  
> to show to you girlfriend that u got a very big one (big sampler 
of  
> course :-))))
> Im open to check the record stores if u got a band/artist name 
from  
> today who did his entire album on a fairlight II/III, please give 
me  
> the names and we will check on the cover of his record if it was  
> right. It could be an interesting challenge.
> Also you say its the best sounding sampler, but if its the best  
> sounding gear why dont u use it with ur client instead of 
protools...
> because nobody is using it on new records ? :)))
> I also own a FIIx the sound is just a piece of crap for today  
> standart, you need to plug it in a very good preamp then in a 
guitar  
> amp to really get THAT sound u hear on old records... and once u 
want  
> to play chords you need a lot of patience and ouput to have it done.
> but for sure it was a nice tools 25years ago
> Regarding the FIII, im sure it got a nice sound, but it probably 
do  
> well comparing to Emulator IV or III which got quite the same 
sonic  
> spec and to my ears Emu got the best sounding samplers, hardware  
> samplers i mean.
> A matter of taste i think
> But its a nice debate anyway !
> 
> 
> 
> Le 14 déc. 06 à 22:33, paradyse_james a écrit :
> 
> > Well, when you already own a Fairlight ( and they are hundreds to 
be
> > owned :)) you don' t care about the price or the weight !
> > If It' s there , in your studio, you just need to move your hand 
to  
> > use
> > it.
> > How did you established that nobody use the fairlight anymore ?
> > Every week I heard about artists using Fairlight(s) in studio.
> >
> > About the sound, on a project with massive Fairlight use, the 
overall
> > quality is way better than project done with protools or soft
> > samplers. But if you just use the series III marimba sample, no 
doubt
> > it will change a lot of thing.
> > I noticed that the cmiII sounds were more interesting and had more
> > character in a mix. It creates really strange sounds . The cmi3 
is  
> > just
> > a very good sampler but less creative than his little brother. 
10  
> > years
> > ago I get ride of my cmi3 to buy a mfx2 , it's still the best 
sounding
> > dtd .
> > I daily use protools Hd/ Apogee with my clients, the sound is just
> > missing something : presence and dynamic.
> > I own all the hardware samplers that can exist and none of them is
> > enough good to replay the Fairlight sounds. I' ve transfered all 
the
> > fairlight LIbrairies in the Emu4 and Kontakt/Halion softsamplers 
but
> > the original stays at an other level; this level that brings you
> > inspiration.
> >
> > --- In Fairlight-CMI@yahoogroups.com, Laurent/LIFELIKE <lifelike@>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > well today nobody's doing records with a fairlight II or III; 
this
> > is
> > > a heavy machine, cost a lot
> > > and the character is not what listeners are able to catch, they
> > catch
> > > nice melodies and great compositions done with a fairlight or 
with a
> > > akai or on a zx spectrum, who cares
> > > is somebody here using his fairlight on NEW records ?
> > > but this library project would for sure get audience, because 
the

> > > library is still interesting.
> > >
> > > Laurent
> > > --
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>

The Depeche Mode sound is based more upon old analog synthesizers than samples.  The 
lush strings, beds, leads, and musical bleeps and blips aren't samples, they are real ARP, 
Moog, Roland, EMS, Oberheim, and other Modular synths.  They did use the Emulators a 
lot (mostly EII), Fairlight as well, but you aren't going to be able to reproduce the analog 
sounds they had from your EMU sampler and have it sound the same.  Most of their 
records were also cut using 2" analog recorders which further added to the great organic 
quality of their records.

I've owned nearly every sampler made, EMU included (EMAX, EII, EII+, EIII, EIV), and none of 
them sound anywhere near as good as my CMI III.  The EIII did have nice filters and could 
reproduce synth sounds quite nicely though.  I've tried numerous times to port my 
Fairlight CMI III library to my EMU, AKAI, Roland, Sequential, Korg, Dynacord, and 
Synclavier samplers to no avail.  Every time I put the CMI original up next to the sample I 
loaded into another unit, it was never even close so I gave up the idea of porting them 
altogether.  

I can't imagine anyone designing a sampler that sounds as good as the CMI III ever again.  
The cost of making such and instrument is astronomical and in today's world it seems end 
users have become quite cheap.  If the market existed for such a high end unit Fairlight 
would still be making CMI's but its no longer profitable.  To me its pathetic to see VST's, 
Romplers, and other digital synths that try and emulate synths and samplers of the past.  
So far I've never heard any of these new fangled VST's, samplers, or synths sound 
anywhere close to the original.  

I would welcome a new Fairlight sampler and would be one of the first people to buy one 
should Fairlight ever decide to get back into the sampler market (I doubt I am the only 
person who would be).  The CMI III made me a believer in what exceptional build quality 
with no price point can sound like.  I'd love to see a CMI IV!  

Fairlight's commitment to great audio quality continues to this day with the Dream 
Products and CC-1.  Its unfortunate that more people aren't aware of just how great these 
products sound and work but they can be expensive.  Sound and build quality do come at 
a cost but to some who demand the best, cost is not of great concern.  Pro Tools has been 
the bane of the audio marketplace for a long long time and its about time Fairlight came 
out with a platform that is cost effective that will make Digidesign rethink what they are 
doing with "Slow Tools".  If you haven't had a chance check out the CC-1 and Dream HD 
products, they are phenomenal.

To bring this subject back on topic. (but please do continue with the other debate...)

My main question was how I could obtain the Series III library without owning one. I'd like to 
use the library with my EIII.

Am I correct that the following procedure would work?

1. I purchase an external hard disc formatted for Series III, loaded with the libraries from e.g. 
Horizontal Productions 
2. I hook this up to a Mac with a SCSI interface and OS X.
3. I use cmios9 to copy the .vc files to the Mac 
3. I convert the .vc files to AIFF.

Of course this will only give me the raw samples and not the programs. But it's a start.

David
http://dvdborn.blogspot.com

Recording Fairlight in a protools is a no sense; just like copying a 
HD DVD on a VHS. Do you know what multiplexing is ? 


Emu II and III were great despite a sound less punchy than the 
Fairlight. Emu 4 has just an anemic sound.Only the filter are ... 
interesting.
Depeche Mode used them ( emu2 and 3 )for concert as it' s more easy 
to bring on the road. Fairlight stays in studio.
The sales of Depeche Mode have dropped the day they left all this 
good stuff, didn' t you noticed ?
Many hits were done with Fairlights, never heard they had to use a 
preamp guitar to increase the sound. I' ve owned 5 fairlights and 
never had a problem. In my studio sessions, sound engineers just 
complained about the level of my fairlights that overloaded their 
Neve' s console.
Since 16 years, I ve worked as sound programmer/designer in hi-tech 
studio in France, as Guillaume Tell, Mega, Ferber, Plus XXX with many 
well knowed people . So I know what I say or hear.
 About the cd compilation of your friend, I' ve my own and signifiant 
library . It may be interesting for non Fairlight users.

What do you mean by "dark sound" ? never heard of this term,  you 
don' t have hi frequencies?  The fairlight produce sounds from 5hz to 
100 khz. Just open the filters ;°)  and once again, the factory 
sounds are crap as many of them were recorded 27 years ago with cmi 1 
( only 8 khz of bandwith ). I' ve just kept 5 sounds of the original 
library.

--- In Fairlight-CMI@yahoogroups.com, Laurent/LIFELIKE <lifelike@...> 
wrote:
>
> Emu samplers...  Depeche mode used them since
> ages for their albums and are today working on protools like  
> everybody. Please talk about things you know.
> I did a entire single on Emulator IV it sounds great. The track is  
> called Discopolis, you can even check it on itunes: Lifelike & 
Kris  
> Menace - Discopolis
> Once again im speaking about ppl using their fairlight on recent  
> record and you give me a list of hardware specs....
> Yes i need a guitar preamp to make it sound clearer and more 
punchy  
> because the sound is dark, very dynamic but very dark, and you 
need  
> lots of highs on the mixing desk.
> But if im wrong what you could do is record one of your songs  
> directly from the ouput of your FIIx into protools and show me how 
it  
> sounds ? probably yours has a more clearer sound if it was 
developped  
> specially for you ? LOL
> Im speaking here about the Fairlight IIx.
> By the way if you are interested, i got a friend developping a 
CDROM  
> right now from his Fairlight IIx sample library, it was developped 
on  
> a Emulator III and it works on E IV, and even software samplers. 
He  
> is even recreated big sounds you got on old record combining some 
of  
> the classic waveform.
> If you are interested in getting the demo of this cd, you can  
email  
> me i will forward it to my friend.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Le 15 déc. 06 à 07:21, paradyse_james a écrit :
> 
> > Emu has nothing in common with Fairlight sounds, dynamic is poor.
> > I only use my emu when I need more polyphony.
> > I also noticed a big problem with emu and soft samplers: more you 
add
> > voices , less it sounds good. Thanks to the multiplexing 
technology;
> > THE big disease for sound quality.
> > The fairlight IIx goes down 5Hz ( infra bass ), as you say actual
> > standard are not the same lol
> > I create my sounds with many synthesizers and computers ( EMS,
> > oberheim, Fairlight, Emu, Silicon Graphics etc ) . My mfx2 is 
only 24
> > tracks , a little difficult to mix an entire project ( music + 
sound
> > fx ) . So my clients rent a studio to mix my projects. Protools is
> > everywere , especially in France :(((
> > Many artists still use sometimes the Fairlight to have those
> > particular sounds , but do you know an other system that is used
> > alone to produce an entire album ?
> > Actually, very few are still writing the gear they use on the 
cover.
> > We are not anymore in the 80' s when artist were proud to use a 
moog
> > or a synclavier.
> > Jarre, Peter Gabriel, Hans Zimmer are still fishing in their
> > Fairlight library .Duran Duran have recently bought back their
> > Fairlight. In fat boy slim titles, I definitly recognise some
> > Fairlight use on loops.
> >
> > If you only use the crappy fairlight IIx factory library, I
> > understand you don' t like it. The best is to record your own 
sounds,
> > I simply erased 70 % of the original disks.
> > Or perhaps do you have a broken Fairlight, it's really strange you
> > need to you use a preamp guitar !!? are you sure you don' t have 
an
> > akai S1000 inside ? lol
> > Also , did you notice that artists were selling very few albums 
since
> > they all use protools and cheap computers/synth/samplers ?
> > The best selling albums had a Fairlight acting in the sessions (
> > excepted the Beatles ). People love tremendous sounds .
> >
> > ps: you should write cmi2x ou cmi IIx , not FIIx
> > ps2:An other system exists to create stunning sounds, it' s called
> > Kyma. Lucas Film daily use it for all his movies ( Star wars, 
Nemo,
> > etc ). Aphex twin made some mixing with it ( listen to windows
> > licker )... but you won' t see it written on the cover lol
> > Secret weapons are not divulged for the public.
> >
> > --- In Fairlight-CMI@yahoogroups.com, Laurent/LIFELIKE <lifelike@>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Well Im speaking about guys doing real records and selling them
> > on
> > > the real market, not about guys owning the sampler for 
collection
> > or
> > > to show to you girlfriend that u got a very big one (big sampler
> > of
> > > course :-))))
> > > Im open to check the record stores if u got a band/artist name
> > from
> > > today who did his entire album on a fairlight II/III, please 
give
> > me
> > > the names and we will check on the cover of his record if it was
> > > right. It could be an interesting challenge.
> > > Also you say its the best sounding sampler, but if its the best
> > > sounding gear why dont u use it with ur client instead of
> > protools...
> > > because nobody is using it on new records ? :)))
> > > I also own a FIIx the sound is just a piece of crap for today
> > > standart, you need to plug it in a very good preamp then in a
> > guitar
> > > amp to really get THAT sound u hear on old records... and once u
> > want
> > > to play chords you need a lot of patience and ouput to have it 
done.
> > > but for sure it was a nice tools 25years ago
> > > Regarding the FIII, im sure it got a nice sound, but it probably
> > do
> > > well comparing to Emulator IV or III which got quite the same
> > sonic
> > > spec and to my ears Emu got the best sounding samplers, hardware
> > > samplers i mean.
> > > A matter of taste i think
> > > But its a nice debate anyway !
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Le 14 déc. 06 à 22:33, paradyse_james a écrit :
> > >
> > > > Well, when you already own a Fairlight ( and they are 
hundreds to
> > be
> > > > owned :)) you don' t care about the price or the weight !
> > > > If It' s there , in your studio, you just need to move your 
hand
> > to
> > > > use
> > > > it.
> > > > How did you established that nobody use the fairlight 
anymore ?
> > > > Every week I heard about artists using Fairlight(s) in studio.
> > > >
> > > > About the sound, on a project with massive Fairlight use, the
> > overall
> > > > quality is way better than project done with protools or soft
> > > > samplers. But if you just use the series III marimba sample, 
no
> > doubt
> > > > it will change a lot of thing.
> > > > I noticed that the cmiII sounds were more interesting and had 
more
> > > > character in a mix. It creates really strange sounds . The 
cmi3
> > is
> > > > just
> > > > a very good sampler but less creative than his little brother.
> > 10
> > > > years
> > > > ago I get ride of my cmi3 to buy a mfx2 , it's still the best
> > sounding
> > > > dtd .
> > > > I daily use protools Hd/ Apogee with my clients, the sound is 
just
> > > > missing something : presence and dynamic.
> > > > I own all the hardware samplers that can exist and none of 
them is
> > > > enough good to replay the Fairlight sounds. I' ve transfered 
all
> > the
> > > > fairlight LIbrairies in the Emu4 and Kontakt/Halion 
softsamplers
> > but
> > > > the original stays at an other level; this level that brings 
you
> > > > inspiration.
> > > >
> > > > --- In Fairlight-CMI@yahoogroups.com, Laurent/LIFELIKE 
<lifelike@>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > well today nobody's doing records with a fairlight II or 
III;
> > this
> > > > is
> > > > > a heavy machine, cost a lot
> > > > > and the character is not what listeners are able to catch, 
they
> > > > catch
> > > > > nice melodies and great compositions done with a fairlight 
or
> > with a
> > > > > akai or on a zx spectrum, who cares
> > > > > is somebody here using his fairlight on NEW records ?
> > > > > but this library project would for sure get audience, 
because

> > the
> > > > > library is still interesting.
> > > > >
> > > > > Laurent
> > > > > --
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>

I' m sorry but since 10 years the cd sales have dropped asn for 
everybody.
If depeche mode were a new born music group , nobody would buy their 
album. 
They actually sell because of their PAST.

--- In Fairlight-CMI@yahoogroups.com, "Rob Puricelli" <rob@...> wrote:
>
> 
> >>The sales of Depeche Mode have dropped the day they left all this 
> >>good stuff, didn' t you noticed ?
> 
> 
> 
> I'm sorry, but that is, as we say in my country (the same country 
that
> Depeche Mode hail from) utter bollox !!
> 
>  
> 
> Check the kit lists for stuff like Violator and you will see 
countless
> pieces of equipment instead of the "good old stuff".
> 
>  
> 
> To claim that an artist/band has success or failure because of the 
equipment
> they use is complete rubbish. Martin Gore, Andy Fletcher and Dave 
Gahan
> could fart a better tune than you or any of us could produce on any 
piece of
> equipment, because they are skilled and successful (both commercial 
&
> critical) songwriters. They could compose their entire next album 
on a
> Bontempi organ and still write better tunes than any of us bedroom 
musos,
> many of whom seem more concerned with technical specifications than 
actual

> song craft.
> 
>  
> 
> £0.02
> 
>  
> 
> Rob.
>

As I said , FORGET all the old Fairlight Presets as "orch3"
they are outdated , overused and pure crap.
Fairlights have a quality of sound that is still actually unsurpassed

--- In Fairlight-CMI@yahoogroups.com, Hallvard Tangeraas 
<my_list_address@...> wrote:
>
> I'm not going to add more heat to this discussion than already is, 
but I 
> have a few thoughts....
> 
> As a mere hobby-musician (Fairlight-less I may add) I can't help 
think 
> that there might be a distinction between "a Fairlight sound" (an 
> instantly recognizable Fairlight preset such as the "Orch5" 
orchestra 
> hit, or that Fairlight voice which I asked about previously) 
and "that 
> Fairlight sound" meaning a particular audio characteristic 
instantly 
> recognizable by those who hear it (regardless of a Fairlight preset 
> being used or not).
> 
> Having said that, speaking for myself (naturally) I can't say that 
I've 
> been able to know when a Fairlight has been used on a record and 
when a 
> non-Fairlight sampler using a Fairlight preset has been used. I 
just 
> happen to think that some of those legendary presets are quite cool 
> (which other here say are crap) and I don't care where they come 
from as 
> long as I like the song.
> But who am I to speak -I don't own a Fairlight, I'm not a 
professional 
> musician, don't work in a studio as an engineer/producer, nor have 
I 
> owned every hardware sampler there is, so I can compare ;-)
> 
> On a sidenote, I'm very curious about the Fairlight (which is why I 
> joined this group) and would like to know what those CMI III sounds 
are, 
> which everybody is talking about here.
> I already have the CMI IIx sampling CD (audio-CD which is a pain, 
as 
> opposed to a data CD with ready-to-use AIFF samples), and 
recognized 
> many of them, but I'm not sure if I've heard any CMI III samples 
(or 

> perhaps I have without knowing it).
> 
> 
> 
> Hallvard
>

what gear do you use ?
give some precise exemple please

I still never heard a better sounding hard disk recorder than my 
Fairlight MFX2 .

Did you or Laurent worked with it .

That would be good to discuss with people that REALLY worked with 
fairlights ( and not only the cmi 1 lol ). Thanks

--- In Fairlight-CMI@yahoogroups.com, "Rob Puricelli" <rob@...> wrote:
>
> 
> >>> Fairlights have a quality of sound that is still actually 
unsurpassed

> 
> They have a unique quality which is excellent, but to say they are
> unsurpassed is extremely blinkered and wholly inaccurate.
> 
> Rob.
>

Music sales have dropped in the 90's , where was the music piracy at 
this moment ? Just observe the facts .
Depeche mode will still sells albums , they could record only farts 
and fans would still buy their songs. Only because of their past

I was a big fan of depeche mode in the past, but I don' t listen to 
them anymore.

--- In Fairlight-CMI@yahoogroups.com, "Rob Puricelli" <rob@...> wrote:
>
> CD sales have indeed dropped, but that has NOTHING to do with 
whether they
> use a Fairlight, Emulator, S6000, Prophecy, Fusion or whatever. 
It's because
> music piracy is up, downloads are the preferred medium and the 
industry is
> on a downturn in general. It has nothing at all to do with what 
instruments
> they use.
> 
>  
> 
> Depeche Mode still sell because they still write great music and 
they have a
> massive fan base. I don't buy their work because the used to use a 
Fairlight
> or Emulator.
> 
>  
> 
> You are truly showing a complete lack of knowledge of the industry 
and
> should therefore look before you leap.
> 
>  
> 
> Rob.
> 
>  
> 
>   _____  
> 
> From: Fairlight-CMI@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Fairlight-
CMI@yahoogroups.com]
> On Behalf Of paradyse_james
> Sent: 15 December 2006 17:43
> To: Fairlight-CMI@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [Fairlight-CMI] Re: Series III Library availability
> 
>  
> 
> I' m sorry but since 10 years the cd sales have dropped asn for 
> everybody.
> If depeche mode were a new born music group , nobody would buy 
their 
> album. 
> They actually sell because of their PAST.
> 
> --- In Fairlight-CMI@ <mailto:Fairlight-CMI%40yahoogroups.com>
> yahoogroups.com, "Rob Puricelli" <rob@> wrote:
> >
> > 
> > >>The sales of Depeche Mode have dropped the day they left all 
this 
> > >>good stuff, didn' t you noticed ?
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > I'm sorry, but that is, as we say in my country (the same country 
> that
> > Depeche Mode hail from) utter bollox !!
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Check the kit lists for stuff like Violator and you will see 
> countless
> > pieces of equipment instead of the "good old stuff".
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > To claim that an artist/band has success or failure because of 
the 
> equipment
> > they use is complete rubbish. Martin Gore, Andy Fletcher and Dave 
> Gahan
> > could fart a better tune than you or any of us could produce on 
any 
> piece of
> > equipment, because they are skilled and successful (both 
commercial 
> &
> > critical) songwriters. They could compose their entire next album 
> on a
> > Bontempi organ and still write better tunes than any of us 
bedroom 
> musos,
> > many of whom seem more concerned with technical specifications 
than 

> actual
> > song craft.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > £0.02
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Rob.
> >
>

For me , people who qualifie fairlight as a dark sound sampler have 
certainly dust in their ears :°)
Especially when they are alone .



Did you ever worked with cmi3, mfx2 or mfx3 ?

or are you blinked to the protools narrow sounding ?

Every people who listened to my fairlights wanted to own one. One of 
them actually own 1 cmi2x, 2 series 3 and 2 mfx3.
Of course he can' t bear protools or soft samplers.

--- In Fairlight-CMI@yahoogroups.com, Laurent/LIFELIKE <lifelike@...> 
wrote:

>
> Def; i agree with Rob on all what he said.
> I think most of these users havent been out to see whats going on  
> today since 1984, probably
> there's even dust on their ears, who knows LOL
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Le 15 déc. 06 à 18:57, Rob Puricelli a écrit :
>

I'm not going to add more heat to this discussion than already is, but I 
have a few thoughts....

As a mere hobby-musician (Fairlight-less I may add) I can't help think 
that there might be a distinction between "a Fairlight sound" (an 
instantly recognizable Fairlight preset such as the "Orch5" orchestra 
hit, or that Fairlight voice which I asked about previously) and "that 
Fairlight sound" meaning a particular audio characteristic instantly 
recognizable by those who hear it (regardless of a Fairlight preset 
being used or not).

Having said that, speaking for myself (naturally) I can't say that I've 
been able to know when a Fairlight has been used on a record and when a 
non-Fairlight sampler using a Fairlight preset has been used. I just 
happen to think that some of those legendary presets are quite cool 
(which other here say are crap) and I don't care where they come from as 
long as I like the song.
But who am I to speak -I don't own a Fairlight, I'm not a professional 
musician, don't work in a studio as an engineer/producer, nor have I 
owned every hardware sampler there is, so I can compare ;-)

On a sidenote, I'm very curious about the Fairlight (which is why I 
joined this group) and would like to know what those CMI III sounds are, 
which everybody is talking about here.
I already have the CMI IIx sampling CD (audio-CD which is a pain, as 
opposed to a data CD with ready-to-use AIFF samples), and recognized 
many of them, but I'm not sure if I've heard any CMI III samples (or 
perhaps I have without knowing it).



Hallvard

are you comparing with your akai S6000, ROberto ? Loool

www.hollowsun.com/cds/rob_review.html

nothing more to say


--- In Fairlight-CMI@yahoogroups.com, "Rob Puricelli" <rob@...> wrote:
>
> 
> >>> Fairlights have a quality of sound that is still actually 
unsurpassed

> 
> They have a unique quality which is excellent, but to say they are
> unsurpassed is extremely blinkered and wholly inaccurate.
> 
> Rob.
>

Nothing more to say ?? I seriously doubt that. 

 

Listen, first off, I have never compared an S6000 with a Fairlight and if I
did, it wouldn't be in the form of some 20 line synopsis based on factual
inaccuracies as you seem to offer. 

 

Many people who indulge in the "my dog is bigger than your dog" type of
arguments are usually the kind of people that know least about the subject
being argued. Those that truly know what is what, leave it at that. They
know what works for them and don't need to justify a misplaced brand loyalty
by bitching on the internet. I am a huge fan of the Fairlight and have more
experience with them than you give me credit for. You know nothing about me
or my work (although you seem to have found some of my offerings on Hollow
Sun). My involvement with the music industry is also deeper than you
probably think and therefore I can also say, like yourself, that I know what
I am talking about. I just don't need to use it as a stick to beat people
with.

 

Have I used the Fairlight gear you mentioned ? Well, I have varying degrees
of experience with it, and experience of Pro Tools and many other recording
formats too. Each have their own qualities and each are powerful and
excellent systems in their own right. In the right hands, they can be as
good as each other. Any comparison is purely and totally subjective. I have
heard better quality recordings on 2" tape than some recordings I have heard
on a Fairlight, Synclavier or Pro Tools system.

 

You said..

 

Music sales have dropped in the 90's , where was the music piracy at 
this moment ? Just observe the facts .
Depeche mode will still sells albums , they could record only farts 
and fans would still buy their songs. Only because of their past

I was a big fan of depeche mode in the past, but I don' t listen to 
them anymore.

 

Firstly, music sales have been dropping for a long while, but not because
everyone migrated to Pro Tools or Nuendo or from Fairlight to Akai or
whatever. Music piracy in the 90's was rife, just in a different way. A trip
to Camden Market would prove that. I used to go down there and pick up all
manner of bootlegs and pirated copies. It was the same the world over. Maybe
you're a bit too young to recall ?

Secondly, Depeche Mode fans DO NOT buy their material purely because of
their past. They garner new fans all the time and trust me, if they ever
made a duff album, I'd be the first to say. You freely admit you don't
listen to them anymore which completely strips you of any credibility in
your argument on that matter.

 

In closing, you make absolutely no worthwhile arguments, other than to flame
and troll. This is a mailing list for fans of the Fairlight to share
knowledge and experience, it is not a venue for individuals to fight petty
net wars from behind the safety of their computer screens. Take you
inaccurate, childish playground taunts and personal insults elsewhere if you
please.

 

Rob.

  _____  

From: Fairlight-CMI@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Fairlight-CMI@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of paradyse_james
Sent: 15 December 2006 18:41
To: Fairlight-CMI@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Fairlight-CMI] Re: Series III Library availability

 

are you comparing with your akai S6000, ROberto ? Loool

www.hollowsun.com/cds/rob_review.html

nothing more to say

--- In Fairlight-CMI@ <mailto:Fairlight-CMI%40yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups.com, "Rob Puricelli" <rob@...> wrote:
>
> 
> >>> Fairlights have a quality of sound that is still actually 
unsurpassed

> 
> They have a unique quality which is excellent, but to say they are
> unsurpassed is extremely blinkered and wholly inaccurate.
> 
> Rob.
>

ALERT TROLL

Laurent why are you lying ? you said you own a fairlight but in fact 
you just have a cd with old samples ( thanks to other users for 
relating this info ). LOooool

Roberto, I work with HD protools, apogee converters. I' ve worked 
with 48 sony digital tape , or 2" analog tape. I' ve made hundreds of 
sessions in well know studio. At the moment, you never worked 
directly with fairlight , you have nothing more to say. 
SPEAK about why you KNOW.

I KNOW and USE protools HD , and the sound is way behind a Fairlight 
MFX2 or 3.


--- In Fairlight-CMI@yahoogroups.com, Laurent/LIFELIKE <lifelike@...> 
wrote:
>
> please james stop it with your 6years old jokes. we try to be 
serious  
> and you come
> again with ur specs fight;
> 
> Le 15 déc. 06 à 19:40, paradyse_james a écrit :
> 
> > are you comparing with your akai S6000, ROberto ? Loool
> >
> > www.hollowsun.com/cds/rob_review.html
> >
> > nothing more to say
> >
> > --- In Fairlight-CMI@yahoogroups.com, "Rob Puricelli" <rob@> 
wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > >>> Fairlights have a quality of sound that is still actually
> > unsurpassed
> > >
> > > They have a unique quality which is excellent, but to say they 
are

> > > unsurpassed is extremely blinkered and wholly inaccurate.
> > >
> > > Rob.
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>

anyway, to come back to the subject, the serie III library has no 
interest to be read in an other sampler. I converted it, but it lacks 
of presence, punch and "life"
I' m very interested in the new CC1 fairlight card, at last I will 
perhaps have hundreds of polyphonic voices with this unique Fairlight 
conversion.

--- In Fairlight-CMI@yahoogroups.com, Marcin 'Rambo' Roguski 
<rambo@...> wrote:
>
> On Fri, 15 Dec 2006 11:31:11 -0800 (PST)
> kevin kelley <xirin6@...> wrote:
> 
> >  I second this statement this thread is a waste of
> > time. Lets move back to helping the community of
> > fairlight users. Remember I am a know it all and
> > therefore I have spoken. 
> 
> Second, started to get bored :-D
> 
> -- 
> If all the world's economists were laid end to end, we wouldn't 
reach a

> conclusion.
> 		-- William Baumol
>

I second this statement this thread is a waste of
time. Lets move back to helping the community of
fairlight users. Remember I am a know it all and
therefore I have spoken. 

Kevin Kelley 

--- Rob Puricelli <rob@puricelli.freeserve.co.uk>
wrote:

> Nothing more to say ?? I seriously doubt that. 
> 
>  
> 
> Listen, first off, I have never compared an S6000
> with a Fairlight and if I
> did, it wouldn't be in the form of some 20 line
> synopsis based on factual
> inaccuracies as you seem to offer. 
> 
>  
> 
> Many people who indulge in the "my dog is bigger
> than your dog" type of
> arguments are usually the kind of people that know
> least about the subject
> being argued. Those that truly know what is what,
> leave it at that. They
> know what works for them and don't need to justify a
> misplaced brand loyalty
> by bitching on the internet. I am a huge fan of the
> Fairlight and have more
> experience with them than you give me credit for.
> You know nothing about me
> or my work (although you seem to have found some of
> my offerings on Hollow
> Sun). My involvement with the music industry is also
> deeper than you
> probably think and therefore I can also say, like
> yourself, that I know what
> I am talking about. I just don't need to use it as a
> stick to beat people
> with.
> 
>  
> 
> Have I used the Fairlight gear you mentioned ? Well,
> I have varying degrees
> of experience with it, and experience of Pro Tools
> and many other recording
> formats too. Each have their own qualities and each
> are powerful and
> excellent systems in their own right. In the right
> hands, they can be as
> good as each other. Any comparison is purely and
> totally subjective. I have
> heard better quality recordings on 2" tape than some
> recordings I have heard
> on a Fairlight, Synclavier or Pro Tools system.
> 
>  
> 
> You said..
> 
>  
> 
> Music sales have dropped in the 90's , where was the
> music piracy at 
> this moment ? Just observe the facts .
> Depeche mode will still sells albums , they could
> record only farts 
> and fans would still buy their songs. Only because
> of their past
> 
> I was a big fan of depeche mode in the past, but I
> don' t listen to 
> them anymore.
> 
>  
> 
> Firstly, music sales have been dropping for a long
> while, but not because
> everyone migrated to Pro Tools or Nuendo or from
> Fairlight to Akai or
> whatever. Music piracy in the 90's was rife, just in
> a different way. A trip
> to Camden Market would prove that. I used to go down
> there and pick up all
> manner of bootlegs and pirated copies. It was the
> same the world over. Maybe
> you're a bit too young to recall ?
> 
> Secondly, Depeche Mode fans DO NOT buy their
> material purely because of
> their past. They garner new fans all the time and
> trust me, if they ever
> made a duff album, I'd be the first to say. You
> freely admit you don't
> listen to them anymore which completely strips you
> of any credibility in
> your argument on that matter.
> 
>  
> 
> In closing, you make absolutely no worthwhile
> arguments, other than to flame
> and troll. This is a mailing list for fans of the
> Fairlight to share
> knowledge and experience, it is not a venue for
> individuals to fight petty
> net wars from behind the safety of their computer
> screens. Take you
> inaccurate, childish playground taunts and personal
> insults elsewhere if you
> please.
> 
>  
> 
> Rob.
> 
>   _____  
> 
> From: Fairlight-CMI@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:Fairlight-CMI@yahoogroups.com]
> On Behalf Of paradyse_james
> Sent: 15 December 2006 18:41
> To: Fairlight-CMI@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [Fairlight-CMI] Re: Series III Library
> availability
> 
>  
> 
> are you comparing with your akai S6000, ROberto ?
> Loool
> 
> www.hollowsun.com/cds/rob_review.html
> 
> nothing more to say
> 
> --- In Fairlight-CMI@
> <mailto:Fairlight-CMI%40yahoogroups.com>
> yahoogroups.com, "Rob Puricelli" <rob@...> wrote:
> >
> > 
> > >>> Fairlights have a quality of sound that is
> still actually 
> unsurpassed
> > 
> > They have a unique quality which is excellent, but
> to say they are
> > unsurpassed is extremely blinkered and wholly
> inaccurate.
> > 
> > Rob.
> >
> 
>  
> 
> 


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On Fri, 15 Dec 2006 11:31:11 -0800 (PST)
kevin kelley <xirin6@yahoo.com> wrote:

>  I second this statement this thread is a waste of
> time. Lets move back to helping the community of
> fairlight users. Remember I am a know it all and
> therefore I have spoken. 

Second, started to get bored :-D

-- 
If all the world's economists were laid end to end, we wouldn't reach a
conclusion.
		-- William Baumol

Att: Laurent on MYSPACE 

is that your fairlight ? 

http://viewmorepics.myspace.com/index.cfm?
fuseaction=viewImage&friendID=27327957&imageID=1306833878


I didn' t knew that sound engineer used samplers and synthesizers for 
their work. Do you know what a sound engineer is ?
Anyway I' m sound designer/ synth programmer. Creating and having the 
best sounds is my job ( at last I try ). 
I only work for tv and cinema advertisments. That allowed me to have 
the Fairlights.


--- In Fairlight-CMI@yahoogroups.com, Laurent/LIFELIKE <lifelike@...> 
wrote:
>
> Thanks James
> DO records and we will talk after, give me some records name you  
> worked on, and we
> will discuss about the sound. Its not because u seems to be a 
sound  
> engineer that every sound engineer are good.
> i know lots of weak sound engineers.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Le 15 déc. 06 à 20:35, paradyse_james a écrit :
> 
> > ALERT TROLL
> >
> > Laurent why are you lying ? you said you own a fairlight but in 
fact
> > you just have a cd with old samples ( thanks to other users for
> > relating this info ). LOooool
> >
> > Roberto, I work with HD protools, apogee converters. I' ve worked
> > with 48 sony digital tape , or 2" analog tape. I' ve made 
hundreds of
> > sessions in well know studio. At the moment, you never worked
> > directly with fairlight , you have nothing more to say.
> > SPEAK about why you KNOW.
> >
> > I KNOW and USE protools HD , and the sound is way behind a 
Fairlight
> > MFX2 or 3.
> >
> > --- In Fairlight-CMI@yahoogroups.com, Laurent/LIFELIKE <lifelike@>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > please james stop it with your 6years old jokes. we try to be
> > serious
> > > and you come
> > > again with ur specs fight;
> > >
> > > Le 15 déc. 06 à 19:40, paradyse_james a écrit :
> > >
> > > > are you comparing with your akai S6000, ROberto ? Loool
> > > >
> > > > www.hollowsun.com/cds/rob_review.html
> > > >
> > > > nothing more to say
> > > >
> > > > --- In Fairlight-CMI@yahoogroups.com, "Rob Puricelli" <rob@>
> > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > >>> Fairlights have a quality of sound that is still 
actually
> > > > unsurpassed
> > > > >
> > > > > They have a unique quality which is excellent, but to say 
they

> > are
> > > > > unsurpassed is extremely blinkered and wholly inaccurate.
> > > > >
> > > > > Rob.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>

you' ll obtain .wav files.

Raw files will just give you the sound as it was originaly recorded 
by the Fairlight but not played by the Fairlight. You lose the 
Fairlight D/A converters, filters and vary frequency pitching... and 
they are replaced by the one you have in your emu.
You' ll get emu sound 
It' s like if you put a Canon Lens on a Leika
The best way is to record with an apogee AD converter every samples.

--- In Fairlight-CMI@yahoogroups.com, "dvdborn" <dvdborn@...> wrote:
>
> To bring this subject back on topic. (but please do continue with 
the other debate...)
> 
> My main question was how I could obtain the Series III library 
without owning one. I'd like to 
> use the library with my EIII.
> 
> Am I correct that the following procedure would work?
> 
> 1. I purchase an external hard disc formatted for Series III, 
loaded with the libraries from e.g. 
> Horizontal Productions 
> 2. I hook this up to a Mac with a SCSI interface and OS X.
> 3. I use cmios9 to copy the .vc files to the Mac 
> 3. I convert the .vc files to AIFF.
> 
> Of course this will only give me the raw samples and not the 
programs. But it's a start.

> 
> David
> http://dvdborn.blogspot.com
>

Cool...

here it's Fairlight forum, not FightClub forum ;)

JB

Would someone remove this flamer from the list? this
is becoming annoying!

Kevin Kelley 



--- paradyse_james <paradyse_james@yahoo.fr> wrote:

> Att: Laurent on MYSPACE 
> 
> is that your fairlight ? 
> 
> http://viewmorepics.myspace.com/index.cfm?
>
fuseaction=viewImage&friendID=27327957&imageID=1306833878
> 
> 
> I didn' t knew that sound engineer used samplers and
> synthesizers for 
> their work. Do you know what a sound engineer is ?
> Anyway I' m sound designer/ synth programmer.
> Creating and having the 
> best sounds is my job ( at last I try ). 
> I only work for tv and cinema advertisments. That
> allowed me to have 
> the Fairlights.
> 
> 
> --- In Fairlight-CMI@yahoogroups.com,
> Laurent/LIFELIKE <lifelike@...> 
> wrote:
> >
> > Thanks James
> > DO records and we will talk after, give me some
> records name you  
> > worked on, and we
> > will discuss about the sound. Its not because u
> seems to be a 
> sound  
> > engineer that every sound engineer are good.
> > i know lots of weak sound engineers.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Le 15 déc. 06 à 20:35, paradyse_james a écrit :
> > 
> > > ALERT TROLL
> > >
> > > Laurent why are you lying ? you said you own a
> fairlight but in 
> fact
> > > you just have a cd with old samples ( thanks to
> other users for
> > > relating this info ). LOooool
> > >
> > > Roberto, I work with HD protools, apogee
> converters. I' ve worked
> > > with 48 sony digital tape , or 2" analog tape.
> I' ve made 
> hundreds of
> > > sessions in well know studio. At the moment, you
> never worked
> > > directly with fairlight , you have nothing more
> to say.
> > > SPEAK about why you KNOW.
> > >
> > > I KNOW and USE protools HD , and the sound is
> way behind a 
> Fairlight
> > > MFX2 or 3.
> > >
> > > --- In Fairlight-CMI@yahoogroups.com,
> Laurent/LIFELIKE <lifelike@>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > please james stop it with your 6years old
> jokes. we try to be
> > > serious
> > > > and you come
> > > > again with ur specs fight;
> > > >
> > > > Le 15 déc. 06 à 19:40, paradyse_james a écrit
> :
> > > >
> > > > > are you comparing with your akai S6000,
> ROberto ? Loool
> > > > >
> > > > > www.hollowsun.com/cds/rob_review.html
> > > > >
> > > > > nothing more to say
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In Fairlight-CMI@yahoogroups.com, "Rob
> Puricelli" <rob@>
> > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >>> Fairlights have a quality of sound
> that is still 
> actually
> > > > > unsurpassed
> > > > > >
> > > > > > They have a unique quality which is
> excellent, but to say 
> they
> > > are
> > > > > > unsurpassed is extremely blinkered and
> wholly inaccurate.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Rob.
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--- In Fairlight-CMI@yahoogroups.com, "paradyse_james" <paradyse_james@...> wrote:
>
> you' ll obtain .wav files.

That's exactly what I'm after at the moment.

I know that a lot of the character comes out of the D/A's but I'm mostly interested in the 
samples themselves.

> Raw files will just give you the sound as it was originaly recorded 
> by the Fairlight but not played by the Fairlight. You lose the 
> Fairlight D/A converters, filters and vary frequency pitching... and 
> they are replaced by the one you have in your emu.
> You' ll get emu sound 

That's no problem. I do like the EIII sound :-)

Best,
David
http://dvdborn.blogspot.com

> It' s like if you put a Canon Lens on a Leika
> The best way is to record with an apogee AD converter every samples.
> 
> --- In Fairlight-CMI@yahoogroups.com, "dvdborn" <dvdborn@> wrote:
> >
> > To bring this subject back on topic. (but please do continue with 
> the other debate...)
> > 
> > My main question was how I could obtain the Series III library 
> without owning one. I'd like to 
> > use the library with my EIII.
> > 
> > Am I correct that the following procedure would work?
> > 
> > 1. I purchase an external hard disc formatted for Series III, 
> loaded with the libraries from e.g. 
> > Horizontal Productions 
> > 2. I hook this up to a Mac with a SCSI interface and OS X.
> > 3. I use cmios9 to copy the .vc files to the Mac 
> > 3. I convert the .vc files to AIFF.
> > 
> > Of course this will only give me the raw samples and not the 
> programs. But it's a start.
> > 
> > David
> > http://dvdborn.blogspot.com
> >
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