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[Fairlight-CMI] parts list, specs Q133

2009-11-07 by Glenn

Does does anyone have a detailed intuitive (for a lay person that really would like to put new parts in but the very right ones) complete "parts list" for the Q133-R6-CR? or the whole series of revs? (found the schematics a little vague on details, the parts labels in some cases (like C17) (CR4 and 5 too faded too read on a black background)

ideally the complete list for the whole board (in a dream, for all the boards IIX and III) that would be a really really cool reference tool if accurate and complete, by rev number

or can you confirm on Q133 R6 CR (from IIX, there are different values on the series III and MFX Q133's from what's on this):

(parts around the battery)

resistors

R16 100kohm? mind's kind of blurrry on the first band, presume it was brown, then clearly black, yellow with a silver tolerance band. Feel like it will come apart if I try to remove it to test with voltmeter

R13

capacitors

C16

C17

diodes

CR4

CR5

on the Q133 R6 -CR

Any line on a good source for the low profile metallic blue 47 microfarad 25 volt philips capacitors that line this and other pcb's? there's a"T" on the packaging but it doesn't look like a tantalum capacitor. Is there a tantalum electrolytic. Any help on finding the right part would be a boon.

Each line of text, around the electrolytic looking capacitor, reads:

47µ T,

25V

Philips

030K0

S 7 (probably inconsequential)

does it matter if a cap rated at 35V is used? It looks like there are different performance ratings by types of caps, some say audio, some say general use, don't want to use anything that would cause anything to fall out of spec, even maybe

can anyone advise, please on detailed intuitive (for this novice user) specs and or a source, I guess the part of philips that made these was bought by Vishay but don't see a compatible part number?

Thanks in all cases

Glenn

Re: [Fairlight-CMI] parts list, specs Q133

2009-11-09 by Harald Feldmann

Hi Glenn,

Without warranty, here are the schematic values:

CR 4 and 5 are 5 volt Zener diodes, part MBR 120p
R16 = 100 K
R13 = 470 R
C16 = 10 n
C17 =  1 micro polar

What is the item number for that philips capacitor ?
C9 = 4,7 micro polar
Haven't seen any 47 in the schematics for the q133.

Best regards,
Harald

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> (like C17) (CR4 and 5 too faded too read on a black background)ideally the
> complete list for the whole board (in a dream, for all the boards IIX and
> III) that would be a really really cool reference tool if accurate and
> complete, by rev number
> or can you confirm on Q133 R6 CR (from IIX,  there are different values on
> the series III and MFX Q133's from what's on this):
> (parts around the battery)
> resistorsR16 100kohm? mind's kind of blurrry on the first band, presume it
> was brown, then clearly black, yellow with a silver tolerance band. Feel
> like it will come apart if I try to remove it to test with voltmeterR13 
> capacitorsC16C17
> diodesCR4CR5
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> on the Q133 R6 -CR
>  Any line on a good source for the low profile metallic blue 47 microfarad
> 25 volt  philips capacitors that line this and other pcb's?  there's a"T"
> on the  packaging but it doesn't look like a tantalum capacitor. Is there
> a tantalum electrolytic. Any help on finding the right part would be a
> boon.
> Each line of text, around the electrolytic looking capacitor, reads:
> 47µ T,25VPhilips030K0S 7 (probably inconsequential)
> does it matter if a cap rated at 35V is used? It looks like there are
> different performance ratings by types of caps, some say audio, some say
> general use, don't want to use anything that would cause anything to fall
> out of spec, even maybe
> can anyone advise, please on detailed intuitive (for this novice user)
> specs and or a source, I guess the part of philips that made these was
> bought by Vishay but don't see a compatible part number?
> Thanks in all cases 
> Glenn

Re: [Fairlight-CMI] parts list, specs Q133

2009-11-09 by Glenn

Thanks man!, really appreciate it!Sorry if this is ignorant but is the "n' on c19 for microfarad or is that picofarad, can never remember the markings on caps.
 no you're totally right about C9 it's 4.7µ, on the 47 microfarad I was wondering about the blue ones that line most boards 10 of them on the Q133, they're 47µ  for sure (printed on the board under the parts and on the blue bodies themselves at least on a q133-r6-rc, r5 boards may be different?), just received assurances offlist that it's okay to use 35V instead of 25V and that it's okay to just use aluminum electrolytics for the blue ones .
Sucks when stuff goes caca, but it can be fun to fix. You guys have been a big help. Happy to help back any way I can.
Thanks again!glenn

--- On Mon, 11/9/09, Harald Feldmann <feldmann@xs4all.nl> wrote:

From: Harald Feldmann <feldmann@xs4all.nl>
Subject: Re: [Fairlight-CMI] parts list, specs Q133
To: Fairlight-CMI@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, November 9, 2009, 7:07 AM

      Hi Glenn,

Without warranty, here are the schematic values:

CR 4 and 5 are 5 volt Zener diodes, part MBR 120p

R16 = 100 K

R13 = 470 R

C16 = 10 n

C17 =  1 micro polar

What is the item number for that philips capacitor ?

C9 = 4,7 micro polar

Haven't seen any 47 in the schematics for the q133.

Best regards,

Harald

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> (like C17) (CR4 and 5 too faded too read on a black background)ideally the

> complete list for the whole board (in a dream, for all the boards IIX and

> III) that would be a really really cool reference tool if accurate and

> complete, by rev number

> or can you confirm on Q133 R6 CR (from IIX,  there are different values on

> the series III and MFX Q133's from what's on this):

> (parts around the battery)

> resistorsR16 100kohm? mind's kind of blurrry on the first band, presume it

> was brown, then clearly black, yellow with a silver tolerance band. Feel

> like it will come apart if I try to remove it to test with voltmeterR13 

> capacitorsC16C17

> diodesCR4CR5

>

> on the Q133 R6 -CR

>  Any line on a good source for the low profile metallic blue 47 microfarad

> 25 volt  philips capacitors that line this and other pcb's?  there's a"T"

> on the  packaging but it doesn't look like a tantalum capacitor. Is there

> a tantalum electrolytic. Any help on finding the right part would be a

> boon.

> Each line of text, around the electrolytic looking capacitor, reads:

> 47µ T,25VPhilips030K0S 7 (probably inconsequential)

> does it matter if a cap rated at 35V is used? It looks like there are

> different performance ratings by types of caps, some say audio, some say

> general use, don't want to use anything that would cause anything to fall

> out of spec, even maybe

> can anyone advise, please on detailed intuitive (for this novice user)

> specs and or a source, I guess the part of philips that made these was

> bought by Vishay but don't see a compatible part number?

> Thanks in all cases 

> Glenn

Re: [Fairlight-CMI] parts list, specs Q133

2009-11-09 by Harald Feldmann

Hi Glenn :)

You're welcome. n stands for NanoFarad.

I checked again, but could not see the elcos in the diagrams, it may be in
a different version ?

Anyhow, good luck rebuilding, I removed all my batteries before they
leaked and left them that way.

Best regards,
Harald

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> Thanks man!, really appreciate it!Sorry if this is ignorant but is the "n'
> on c19 for microfarad or is that picofarad, can never remember the
> markings on caps.
> Â no you're totally right about C9 it's 4.7Âµ, on the 47 microfarad I was
> wondering about the blue ones that line most boards 10 of them on the
> Q133, they're 47Âµ Â for sure (printed on the board under the parts and on
> the blue bodies themselves at least on a q133-r6-rc, r5 boards may be
> different?), just received assurances offlist that it's okay to use 35V
> instead of 25V and that it's okay to just use aluminum electrolytics for
> the blue ones .
> Sucks when stuff goes caca, but it can be fun to fix. You guys have been a
> big help. Happy to help back any way I can.
> Thanks again!glenn
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> Subject: Re: [Fairlight-CMI] parts list, specs Q133
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> Date: Monday, November 9, 2009, 7:07 AM
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> CR 4 and 5 are 5 volt Zener diodes, part MBR 120p
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> R16 = 100 K
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> R13 = 470 R
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> C16 = 10 n
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> C17 =  1 micro polar
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> Haven't seen any 47 in the schematics for the q133.
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>> (like C17) (CR4 and 5 too faded too read on a black background)ideally
>> the
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>> complete list for the whole board (in a dream, for all the boards IIX
>> and
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>> III) that would be a really really cool reference tool if accurate and
>
>> complete, by rev number
>
>> or can you confirm on Q133 R6 CR (from IIX, Â there are different values
>> on
>
>> the series III and MFX Q133's from what's on this):
>
>> (parts around the battery)
>
>> resistorsR16 100kohm? mind's kind of blurrry on the first band, presume
>> it
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>> was brown, then clearly black, yellow with a silver tolerance band. Feel
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>> like it will come apart if I try to remove it to test with
>> voltmeterR13Â 
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>> capacitorsC16C17
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>> diodesCR4CR5
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>> on the Q133 R6 -CR
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>> Â Any line on a good source for the low profile metallic blue 47
>> microfarad
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>> 25 volt Â philips capacitors that line this and other pcb's? Â there's
>> a"T"
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>> on the Â packaging but it doesn't look like aÂ tantalum capacitor. Is
>> there
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>> a tantalum electrolytic. Any help on finding the right part would be a
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>> boon.
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>> Each line of text, around the electrolytic looking capacitor, reads:
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>> 47Âµ T,25VPhilips030K0S 7 (probably inconsequential)
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>> does it matter if a cap rated at 35V is used? It looks like there are
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>> different performance ratings by types of caps, some say audio, some say
>
>> general use, don't want to use anything that would cause anything to
>> fall
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>> out of spec, even maybe
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>> can anyone advise, please on detailed intuitive (for this novice user)
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>> specs and or a source, I guess the part of philips that made these was
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>> bought byÂ VishayÂ but don't see a compatible part number?
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>> Thanks in all casesÂ 
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