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Problem Booting...

Problem Booting...

2012-03-07 by Kirk Keyes

Greetings, all -

I just bought a IIx and it's now having a problem booting. It was working fine, and then I pulled some of the cards to check thier conditions and to check the battery, and now it will not load from either floppy drive. 

It does boot up from the ROM, and it get to where it shows this on the display -


* READY *
:


When it gets to this point, I assume it's supposed to load from the floppy disks, but it doesn't. 

The video works, the alphanumeric keyboard works, and the keypad on the keyboard works...

What should I check next?
THanks - 
Kirk

PS - this is my first post.

Re: Problem Booting...

2012-03-07 by Kirk Keyes

OK - I figured out the problem. I had the floppy controller card in Slot 20. When I moved it to Slot 19, it accessed the floppy drives and continued on to boot up to Page 1.

Thanks to all that helped!

Kirk



--- In Fairlight-CMI@yahoogroups.com, "Kirk Keyes" <Kirk@...> wrote:
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>
> Greetings, all -
> 
> I just bought a IIx and it's now having a problem booting. It was working fine, and then I pulled some of the cards to check thier conditions and to check the battery, and now it will not load from either floppy drive. 
> 
> It does boot up from the ROM, and it get to where it shows this on the display -
> 
> 
> * READY *
> :
> 
> 
> When it gets to this point, I assume it's supposed to load from the floppy disks, but it doesn't. 
> 
> The video works, the alphanumeric keyboard works, and the keypad on the keyboard works...
> 
> What should I check next?
> THanks - 
> Kirk
> 
> PS - this is my first post.
>

Re: [Fairlight-CMI] Re: Problem Booting...

2012-03-07 by Harald Feldmann

Hi Kirk,

Welcome to the forum and congratulations with your working machine.
It is a good idea to keep an eye on the battery, if it leaks, the 133 card
will be damaged beyond repair. I have seen examples.

Regards,
Harald
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> OK - I figured out the problem. I had the floppy controller card in Slot
> 20. When I moved it to Slot 19, it accessed the floppy drives and
> continued on to boot up to Page 1.
>
> Thanks to all that helped!
>
> Kirk
>
>
>
> --- In Fairlight-CMI@yahoogroups.com, "Kirk Keyes" <Kirk@...> wrote:
>>
>> Greetings, all -
>>
>> I just bought a IIx and it's now having a problem booting. It was
>> working fine, and then I pulled some of the cards to check thier
>> conditions and to check the battery, and now it will not load from
>> either floppy drive.
>>
>> It does boot up from the ROM, and it get to where it shows this on the
>> display -
>>
>>
>> * READY *
>> :
>>
>>
>> When it gets to this point, I assume it's supposed to load from the
>> floppy disks, but it doesn't.
>>
>> The video works, the alphanumeric keyboard works, and the keypad on the
>> keyboard works...
>>
>> What should I check next?
>> THanks -
>> Kirk
>>
>> PS - this is my first post.
>>
>
>
>
>
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Re: [Fairlight-CMI] Re: Problem Booting...

2012-03-07 by WT

Remove the battery. Now !!!
WT
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2012 9:54 AM
Subject: Re: [Fairlight-CMI] Re: Problem Booting...

Hi Kirk,

Welcome to the forum and congratulations with your working machine.
It is a good idea to keep an eye on the battery, if it leaks, the 133 card
will be damaged beyond repair. I have seen examples.

Regards,
Harald

> OK - I figured out the problem. I had the floppy controller card in Slot
> 20. When I moved it to Slot 19, it accessed the floppy drives and
> continued on to boot up to Page 1.
>
> Thanks to all that helped!
>
> Kirk
>
>
>
> --- In Fairlight-CMI@yahoogroups.com, "Kirk Keyes" wrote:
>>
>> Greetings, all -
>>
>> I just bought a IIx and it's now having a problem booting. It was
>> working fine, and then I pulled some of the cards to check thier
>> conditions and to check the battery, and now it will not load from
>> either floppy drive.
>>
>> It does boot up from the ROM, and it get to where it shows this on the
>> display -
>>
>>
>> * READY *
>> :
>>
>>
>> When it gets to this point, I assume it's supposed to load from the
>> floppy disks, but it doesn't.
>>
>> The video works, the alphanumeric keyboard works, and the keypad on the
>> keyboard works...
>>
>> What should I check next?
>> THanks -
>> Kirk
>>
>> PS - this is my first post.
>>
>
>
>
>
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>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
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More detailed error description

2012-03-07 by Roland

Hello to all users,

yesterday I posted the problem that my IIx has since I wanted to use 
it again this week.
I digged deeper and can now describe the problem more precisely:

After I had removed all the cards because it refused to boot 
completely, it now boots again but doesn't recognize any voice cards 
any more. No matter if I have two, four or all 8 cards in the machine.

Maybe the other problem is a follow up on the missing soundcards: The 
machine has booted, I can go to all pages, they all look like they 
are supposed to, but once I have been to page three "Keyboard 
Control" and then try to go back to page two "Disc Control", the 
machine freezes or displays strange characters.
The page three, that seems to cause this problem, doesn't display 
properly but looks like this

http://www.rare-stuff.com/page3.jpg

Any ideas ?

If I try to change the "0" under the first "6" in the lines of sixes, 
it also crashes with a task error.

Help would be really appreciated because in about three weeks there 
will open a Dieter Meier (of Yello) exposition here in Karlsruhe, 
Germany at the ZKM and we were thinking about the idea of presenting 
Yello's most important music tool of the 80ies. Preferably in working 
condition :-)
A friend of mine works at the ZKM and asked me about my CMI for this 
occasion which I haven't used for quite some time. The last time it 
was working properly.

Apple monitor connected with Joe Britt's excellent interface box.

Thanks a lot

Cheers

Roland Weissflog

Re: [Fairlight-CMI] More detailed error description

2012-03-07 by Malte Rogacki

> Hello to all users,
>
> yesterday I posted the problem that my IIx has since I wanted to use
> it again this week.
> I digged deeper and can now describe the problem more precisely:
>
> After I had removed all the cards because it refused to boot
> completely, it now boots again but doesn't recognize any voice cards
> any more. No matter if I have two, four or all 8 cards in the machine.


Quick guess: problem with the channel master card? This should be in slot 1
(I think).

Re: More detailed error description

2012-03-07 by horiprod

Hi Malte. The problem you describe is almost definitely caused by a bad master card CMO-02. This card provides various clocks and signals for the channel cards to perform. 

I have a IIX on my workbench now, with exactly the same problem. I'll get to it next week, and describe what I find... 

Regards,

Peter Wielk Horizontal Productions Sydney

[Fairlight-CMI] Re: More detailed error description

2012-03-09 by Roland

Hi all,

problem was: Voice cards are not recognized any more and page three 
looks strange:

At 23:27 Uhr +0000 07.03.2012, horiprod wrote:
>Hi Malte. The problem you describe is almost definitely caused by a 
>bad master card CMO-02. This card provides various clocks and 
>signals for the channel cards to perform.

At 19:47 Uhr +0100 07.03.2012, Malte Rogacki wrote:
>Quick guess: problem with the channel master card? This should be in slot 1
>(I think).

problem solved: It might have been indeed just a contact problem with 
that master card: I had all 8 voice cards removed once more + the two 
cards left of them, cleaned the contacts and put them in and out 
three times each, and now the machine is running perfectly again !

The only problem now is that when I connect the front panel (behind 
the door), it freezes sometimes ! But I guess I can live without the 
fancy lights on the door switched on, as long as the rest is working 
as it should.

Cheers and Thanks !

Roland Weissflog

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