Fairlight-CMI

>
> Very simple and low price solution :
> 
> 
> UltraSCSI 50pin SCSI <> IDE (165 US$):
> <http://www.hantz.com/ASP/NewProducts/landingpage.asp?AUTOIDE=SCSIDE-BR2>
> 
> 4GB IDE Flash Module (44-Pin Vertical) (66 US$):
> <http://ec.transcendusa.com/product/ItemDetail.asp?ItemID=TS4GDOM44V-S>
> 
> Total solution : 231 US$ (without shipping), If you looking good there 
> found probably better price...
> 
> JB
>

>
> Yeah, I played with a stack of devices a few years ago. CF card (which IS
> an ATA interface) to an ATA->SCSI to a CMI.
> 
> You can use a good binary editor, one which will allow editing anything,
> files, volumes, raw volumes, memory, etc, such as 010 edit, to image old
> SCSI drives, archive them to PC, and pop them back onto CF cards, etc.
> 
> Sadly, those useful little buggers, CF cards, appear to be heading the way
> of the dodo.
> 
> We now have CF card skeleton adapters which hold micro SD cards...so your
> memory module can end up costing maybe $5.
> 
> But yes, it's a challenge finding which specific one will work with most or
> all vintage synths. We found exactly one, at the time. Even so, I don't
> think I could run partgen or the other OS9/OSK SCSI disk preparation
> utilities on it directly. Some of the low-level SCSI functions were
> probably not properly implemented on the adaptor.
> 
> With PW's solution, it's guaranteed to work with no messing about.
> 
> Joe
> 
> On Sun, Sep 2, 2012 at 6:10 PM, Peter K. <synthserv@...> wrote:
> 
> > **
> >
> >
> > **
> > Well, I'm not JB, but I can confirm that not every SCSI/IDE bridge will
> > work. In 2010 I did a lot of testing with an EIII-rack. There is a
> > difference between brands and even in firmware. So the task is to find the
> > cheapest, working ones.
> >
> > As for the 4 GB IDE Flash Module, I used a different, much cheaper
> > method. Get a Compact Flash CF â†' 40 Pin IDE Adapter for a few dollars.
> > (aprox 3$) and get a CF card.
> >
> > E.g.:
> > http://www.ebay.de/itm/Compact-Flash-CF-40-Pin-IDE-Adapter-CF-IDE-Festplatte-/280610002332?pt=DE_Computing_Festplattenkabel_Adapter&hash=item4155a8d59c
> > CF:
> > http://www.ebay.de/sch/i.html?_nkw=Cf+Card+4+gb&_sacat=0&_odkw=Cf+Card+Reader&_osacat=0&_from=R40
> >
> > This works fantastic. I can backup on my PC with a RAW image and I don't
> > have to format and spend  4 hours of (not always succesfull) verification
> > on the EIII. There is however ONE issue: When writing back a RAW image,
> > make sure the CF has the right amount of space.
> > I had a lot of 1 GB cards from Kingston, the ones with a flower on the
> > label. These were recommended by others. Turned out, there are at least 3
> > versions which each have their own, different size of memory available. The
> > ones with the smallest amount of memory did not work at all.
> > When writing back an image, you can only write back on the same or
> > larger size CF!! Best way is to name the image and include the size of
> > bytes in the name. These cards all say "1 GB" and at first glance they seem
> > te same, but they are not. The ones that worked for me had 961 MB and 976
> > MB. There were also versions with less than 961 MB. Those didn't work with
> > the EIII. There are serial numbers etc, to identify them.
> >
> > On more modern gear, like various Kurzweil series 2XXX, Ensoniq ASR-10 and
> > EMU E5000 Ultra it seems that adapters etc. mostly work fine. It's only
> > older gear that seems to give some problems.
> >
> > Hope this helps,
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Peter Kersten.
> >
> > ---------------------------------------------------
> > Carpe Ductum ! - (Seize the tape !)
> >
> >  *From:* horiprod <horizontal_productions@...>
> > *Sent:* Friday, August 31, 2012 7:43 AM
> > *To:* Fairlight-CMI@yahoogroups.com
> > *Subject:* [Fairlight-CMI] Re: 4 Gbyte Solid State Drive
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi JB. Did you try this SCSI/IDE bridge?? I've bought several different
> > ones and not everyone works. Regards, PW
> >
> > --- In Fairlight-CMI@yahoogroups.com, Jean-Bernard EMOND <jbemond@>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Very simple and low price solution :
> > >
> > >
> > > UltraSCSI 50pin SCSI <> IDE (165 US$):
> > > <http://www.hantz.com/ASP/NewProducts/landingpage.asp?AUTOIDE=SCSIDE-BR2
> > >
> > >
> > > 4GB IDE Flash Module (44-Pin Vertical) (66 US$):
> > > <http://ec.transcendusa.com/product/ItemDetail.asp?ItemID=TS4GDOM44V-S>
> > >
> > > Total solution : 231 US$ (without shipping), If you looking good there
> > > found probably better price...
> > >
> > > JB
> > >
> >
> >  
> >
>

>
> Yeah, I played with a stack of devices a few years ago. CF card (which IS
> an ATA interface) to an ATA->SCSI to a CMI.
> 
> You can use a good binary editor, one which will allow editing anything,
> files, volumes, raw volumes, memory, etc, such as 010 edit, to image old
> SCSI drives, archive them to PC, and pop them back onto CF cards, etc.
> 
> Sadly, those useful little buggers, CF cards, appear to be heading the way
> of the dodo.
> 
> We now have CF card skeleton adapters which hold micro SD cards...so your
> memory module can end up costing maybe $5.
> 
> But yes, it's a challenge finding which specific one will work with most or
> all vintage synths. We found exactly one, at the time. Even so, I don't
> think I could run partgen or the other OS9/OSK SCSI disk preparation
> utilities on it directly. Some of the low-level SCSI functions were
> probably not properly implemented on the adaptor.
> 
> With PW's solution, it's guaranteed to work with no messing about.
> 
> Joe
> 
> On Sun, Sep 2, 2012 at 6:10 PM, Peter K. <synthserv@...> wrote:
> 
> > **
> >
> >
> > **
> > Well, I'm not JB, but I can confirm that not every SCSI/IDE bridge will
> > work. In 2010 I did a lot of testing with an EIII-rack. There is a
> > difference between brands and even in firmware. So the task is to find the
> > cheapest, working ones.
> >
> > As for the 4 GB IDE Flash Module, I used a different, much cheaper
> > method. Get a Compact Flash CF â†' 40 Pin IDE Adapter for a few dollars.
> > (aprox 3$) and get a CF card.
> >
> > E.g.:
> > http://www.ebay.de/itm/Compact-Flash-CF-40-Pin-IDE-Adapter-CF-IDE-Festplatte-/280610002332?pt=DE_Computing_Festplattenkabel_Adapter&hash=item4155a8d59c
> > CF:
> > http://www.ebay.de/sch/i.html?_nkw=Cf+Card+4+gb&_sacat=0&_odkw=Cf+Card+Reader&_osacat=0&_from=R40
> >
> > This works fantastic. I can backup on my PC with a RAW image and I don't
> > have to format and spend 4 hours of (not always succesfull) verification
> > on the EIII. There is however ONE issue: When writing back a RAW image,
> > make sure the CF has the right amount of space.
> > I had a lot of 1 GB cards from Kingston, the ones with a flower on the
> > label. These were recommended by others. Turned out, there are at least 3
> > versions which each have their own, different size of memory available. The
> > ones with the smallest amount of memory did not work at all.
> > When writing back an image, you can only write back on the same or
> > larger size CF!! Best way is to name the image and include the size of
> > bytes in the name. These cards all say "1 GB" and at first glance they seem
> > te same, but they are not. The ones that worked for me had 961 MB and 976
> > MB. There were also versions with less than 961 MB. Those didn't work with
> > the EIII. There are serial numbers etc, to identify them.
> >
> > On more modern gear, like various Kurzweil series 2XXX, Ensoniq ASR-10 and
> > EMU E5000 Ultra it seems that adapters etc. mostly work fine. It's only
> > older gear that seems to give some problems.
> >
> > Hope this helps,
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Peter Kersten.
> >
> > ---------------------------------------------------
> > Carpe Ductum ! - (Seize the tape !)
> >
> > *From:* horiprod <horizontal_productions@...>
> > *Sent:* Friday, August 31, 2012 7:43 AM
> > *To:* Fairlight-CMI@yahoogroups.com
> > *Subject:* [Fairlight-CMI] Re: 4 Gbyte Solid State Drive
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi JB. Did you try this SCSI/IDE bridge?? I've bought several different
> > ones and not everyone works. Regards, PW
> >
> > --- In Fairlight-CMI@yahoogroups.com, Jean-Bernard EMOND <jbemond@>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Very simple and low price solution :
> > >
> > >
> > > UltraSCSI 50pin SCSI <> IDE (165 US$):
> > > <http://www.hantz.com/ASP/NewProducts/landingpage.asp?AUTOIDE=SCSIDE-BR2
> > >
> > >
> > > 4GB IDE Flash Module (44-Pin Vertical) (66 US$):
> > > <http://ec.transcendusa.com/product/ItemDetail.asp?ItemID=TS4GDOM44V-S>
> > >
> > > Total solution : 231 US$ (without shipping), If you looking good there
> > > found probably better price...
> > >
> > > JB
> > >
> >
> > 
> >
>