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IIx: copy Page R sequences between disks?

2013-01-01 by dvdborn

Is there a way to copy a Page R sequence from one disk to another?

I can't find an answer in the manuals (User Manual & Page R manual). 

There's a possibility with the BACKUP command in QDOS. But this will copy the whole disk which is not what I want. I just need to copy one .RS file.

I'm guessing that there's a QDOS copy command that should allow this. But I don't have a QDOS manual.

Best,
David
http://dvdborn.blogspot.com

PS: A happy 2013 to all Fairlight lovers out there.

RE: [Fairlight-CMI] IIx: copy Page R sequences between disks?

2013-01-01 by Steve Rance

Have not done it for a very long time (like 25 years) , but I think if you highlight the RS sequence you want to copy and then select “Transfer”, you will then be prompted to replace the System disk with a floppy you want to copy to.

[Steve]

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To: Fairlight-CMI@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Fairlight-CMI] IIx: copy Page R sequences between disks?

Is there a way to copy a Page R sequence from one disk to another?

I can't find an answer in the manuals (User Manual & Page R manual).

There's a possibility with the BACKUP command in QDOS. But this will copy the whole disk which is not what I want. I just need to copy one .RS file.

I'm guessing that there's a QDOS copy command that should allow this. But I don't have a QDOS manual.

Best,
David
http://dvdborn.blogspot.com

PS: A happy 2013 to all Fairlight lovers out there.

Re: [Fairlight-CMI] IIx: copy Page R sequences between disks?

2013-01-02 by Joe Sleator

Your memory is sharp as a tack, Steve!

If, for whatever reason, you don't want to use the inbuilt "Transfer" funciton Steve mentioned, documented in the CMI Owner's Manual (1985) at C-2-10, you can boot your CMI with a QDOS diskette and use the COPY command as well.

Many people, including me, would probably be happy to make and mail you a QDOS utility diskette, in exchange for a known-good 8" floppy.

It's not better or easier, but may provide more precise control, depending on what you want to do.

> I'm guessing that there's a QDOS copy command that should allow this. But I don't have a QDOS manual.

It's documented in the Motorola MDOS (QDOS) (June 1979!) manual, which can be got here:

http://bitsavers.informatik.uni-stuttgart.de/pdf/motorola/6800/
Page 1 of Chapter 7.

Briefly, it works like this:

COPY MYFILE.RS:1, :0

Will copy MYFILE.RS from unit 1 (the righthand drive by default) to unit 0 (the left one) which presumably will be your QDOS boot diskette.

The destination argument need only be a drive unit number, filename, or suffix, but can be all 3.

You'll then have to copy it from your QDOS boot diskette to your intended target diskette with something like:

COPY MYFILE.RS:0, :1

You can rename it whilst copying by specifying a new name, COPY MYFILE.RS:0,OTHERFILE.RS:1

IIRC, the CMI GUI version will use RAM to minimize diskette swaps, but if you are suspicious of your RAM it would be safer to use the QDOS command.

QDOS is also handy for copying other kinds of files which are not CMI content files, i.e. not Instrument, Voice, RS, Sequence, or MCL files, to other floppies or floppy emulators.

Joe

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On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 9:58 AM, Steve Rance <steve@fairlightus.com> wrote:

Have not done it for a very long time (like 25 years) , but I think if you highlight the RS sequence you want to copy and then select “Transfer”, you will then be prompted to replace the System disk with a floppy you want to copy to.

[Steve]

From: Fairlight-CMI@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Fairlight-CMI@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of dvdborn
Sent: Tuesday, January 01, 2013 5:17 PM
To: Fairlight-CMI@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Fairlight-CMI] IIx: copy Page R sequences between disks?

Is there a way to copy a Page R sequence from one disk to another?

I can't find an answer in the manuals (User Manual & Page R manual).

There's a possibility with the BACKUP command in QDOS. But this will copy the whole disk which is not what I want. I just need to copy one .RS file.

I'm guessing that there's a QDOS copy command that should allow this. But I don't have a QDOS manual.

Best,
David
http://dvdborn.blogspot.com

PS: A happy 2013 to all Fairlight lovers out there.

Re: IIx: copy Page R sequences between disks?

2013-01-02 by dvdborn

A big thanks for the info!

And I'm glad to have finally found a QDOS manual. I've been looking for one for quite a while. Now I can also start to play with my Motorola EXORset.

Best,
David


--- In Fairlight-CMI@yahoogroups.com, Joe Sleator <joe.sleator@...> wrote:

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>
> Your memory is sharp as a tack, Steve!
> 
> If, for whatever reason, you don't want to use the inbuilt "Transfer"
> funciton Steve mentioned, documented in the CMI Owner's Manual (1985) at
> C-2-10, you can boot your CMI with a QDOS diskette and use the COPY command
> as well.
> 
> Many people, including me, would probably be happy to make and mail you a
> QDOS utility diskette, in exchange for a known-good 8" floppy.
> .
> It's not better or easier, but may provide more precise control, depending
> on what you want to do.
> 
> > I'm guessing that there's a QDOS copy command that should allow this. But
> I don't have a QDOS manual.
> 
> It's documented in the Motorola MDOS (QDOS) (June 1979!) manual, which can
> be got here:
> http://bitsavers.informatik.uni-stuttgart.de/pdf/motorola/6800/
> Page 1 of Chapter 7.
> 
> Briefly, it works like this:
> 
> COPY MYFILE.RS:1, :0
> 
> Will copy MYFILE.RS from unit 1 (the righthand drive by default) to unit 0
> (the left one) which presumably will be your QDOS boot diskette.
> 
> The destination argument need only be a drive unit number, filename, or
> suffix, but can be all 3.
> 
> You'll then have to copy it from your QDOS boot diskette to your intended
> target diskette with something like:
> COPY MYFILE.RS:0, :1
> You can rename it whilst copying by specifying a new name, COPY MYFILE.RS:0,
> OTHERFILE.RS:1
> 
> IIRC, the CMI GUI version will use RAM to minimize diskette swaps, but if
> you are suspicious of your RAM it would be safer to use the QDOS command.
> QDOS is also handy for copying other kinds of files which are not CMI
> content files, i.e. not Instrument, Voice, RS, Sequence, or MCL files, to
> other floppies or floppy emulators.
> 
> Joe

Re: [Fairlight-CMI] Re: IIx: copy Page R sequences between disks?

2013-01-02 by Joe Sleator

> I've been looking for one for quite a while. Now I can also start to play with my Motorola EXORset.

Excellent! I thought everybody knew about bitsavers!

There's a fairly complete set of diskette images up there as well for some Motorola machine, possibly yours.

Have you got editors and assemblers and so forth?

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On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 1:59 AM, dvdborn <dvdborn@pandora.be> wrote:

A big thanks for the info!

And I'm glad to have finally found a QDOS manual. I've been looking for one for quite a while. Now I can also start to play with my Motorola EXORset.

Best,
David

--- In Fairlight-CMI@yahoogroups.com, Joe Sleator wrote:
>
> Your memory is sharp as a tack, Steve!
>
> If, for whatever reason, you don't want to use the inbuilt "Transfer"
> funciton Steve mentioned, documented in the CMI Owner's Manual (1985) at
> C-2-10, you can boot your CMI with a QDOS diskette and use the COPY command
> as well.
>
> Many people, including me, would probably be happy to make and mail you a
> QDOS utility diskette, in exchange for a known-good 8" floppy.
> .
> It's not better or easier, but may provide more precise control, depending
> on what you want to do.
>
> > I'm guessing that there's a QDOS copy command that should allow this. But
> I don't have a QDOS manual.
>
> It's documented in the Motorola MDOS (QDOS) (June 1979!) manual, which can
> be got here:
> http://bitsavers.informatik.uni-stuttgart.de/pdf/motorola/6800/
> Page 1 of Chapter 7.
>
> Briefly, it works like this:
>
> COPY MYFILE.RS:1, :0
>
> Will copy MYFILE.RS from unit 1 (the righthand drive by default) to unit 0
> (the left one) which presumably will be your QDOS boot diskette.
>
> The destination argument need only be a drive unit number, filename, or
> suffix, but can be all 3.
>
> You'll then have to copy it from your QDOS boot diskette to your intended
> target diskette with something like:
> COPY MYFILE.RS:0, :1
> You can rename it whilst copying by specifying a new name, COPY MYFILE.RS:0,
> OTHERFILE.RS:1
>
> IIRC, the CMI GUI version will use RAM to minimize diskette swaps, but if
> you are suspicious of your RAM it would be safer to use the QDOS command.
> QDOS is also handy for copying other kinds of files which are not CMI
> content files, i.e. not Instrument, Voice, RS, Sequence, or MCL files, to
> other floppies or floppy emulators.
>
> Joe

Re: [Fairlight-CMI] Re: IIx: copy Page R sequences between disks?

2013-01-02 by Jean-Bernard EMOND

Le 2 janv. 2013 à 16:58, Joe Sleator a écrit :

> >  I've been looking for one for quite a while. Now I can also start to play with my Motorola EXORset.
> 
> 
> Excellent! I thought everybody knew about bitsavers!
> 
> There's a fairly complete set of diskette images up there as well for some Motorola machine, possibly yours.
> 
> Have you got editors and assemblers and so forth?

Also in last version of QDOS ;)

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> 
> On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 1:59 AM, dvdborn <dvdborn@pandora.be> wrote:
>  
> A big thanks for the info!
> 
> And I'm glad to have finally found a QDOS manual. I've been looking for one for quite a while. Now I can also start to play with my Motorola EXORset.
> 
> Best,
> David
> 
> 
> 
> --- In Fairlight-CMI@yahoogroups.com, Joe Sleator <joe.sleator@...> wrote:
> >
> > Your memory is sharp as a tack, Steve!
> > 
> > If, for whatever reason, you don't want to use the inbuilt "Transfer"
> > funciton Steve mentioned, documented in the CMI Owner's Manual (1985) at
> > C-2-10, you can boot your CMI with a QDOS diskette and use the COPY command
> > as well.
> > 
> > Many people, including me, would probably be happy to make and mail you a
> > QDOS utility diskette, in exchange for a known-good 8" floppy.
> > .
> > It's not better or easier, but may provide more precise control, depending
> > on what you want to do.
> > 
> > > I'm guessing that there's a QDOS copy command that should allow this. But
> > I don't have a QDOS manual.
> > 
> > It's documented in the Motorola MDOS (QDOS) (June 1979!) manual, which can
> > be got here:
> > http://bitsavers.informatik.uni-stuttgart.de/pdf/motorola/6800/
> > Page 1 of Chapter 7.
> > 
> > Briefly, it works like this:
> > 
> > COPY MYFILE.RS:1, :0
> > 
> > Will copy MYFILE.RS from unit 1 (the righthand drive by default) to unit 0
> > (the left one) which presumably will be your QDOS boot diskette.
> > 
> > The destination argument need only be a drive unit number, filename, or
> > suffix, but can be all 3.
> > 
> > You'll then have to copy it from your QDOS boot diskette to your intended
> > target diskette with something like:
> > COPY MYFILE.RS:0, :1
> > You can rename it whilst copying by specifying a new name, COPY MYFILE.RS:0,
> > OTHERFILE.RS:1
> > 
> > IIRC, the CMI GUI version will use RAM to minimize diskette swaps, but if
> > you are suspicious of your RAM it would be safer to use the QDOS command.
> > QDOS is also handy for copying other kinds of files which are not CMI
> > content files, i.e. not Instrument, Voice, RS, Sequence, or MCL files, to
> > other floppies or floppy emulators.
> > 
> > Joe
> 
> 
> 
> 
>