Re: A $500.00 "UV" non-trivial exposure box.....
2005-11-16 by adicont2
You are wright, is a holy war, but let s make it creative and realy useful. The problem is a false problem. The best system is
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Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Re: Update on toner transfer problems reported a week ago....
2005-11-16 by Les Newell
I think Ballendo was referring to using a laminator for TT rather than for applying photoresist film. Les
Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] A $500.00 "UV" non-trivial exposure box.....
2005-11-16 by Les Newell
If we aren t careful we could end up with a holy war here. I couldn t get TT to work and photo etching works well for me. For others the opposite is true.
Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] A $500.00 "UV" non-trivial exposure box.....
2005-11-16 by Les Newell
Hi Mike, It is probably a bad idea to use ordinary acetate. You can get laser safe acetate but the results are usually lacking in contrast. As you say, lasers
Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] A $500.00 "UV" non-trivial exposure box.....
2005-11-16 by Adam Seychell
... Hay Derek, you have done some really nice work with your Cannon EOS 20D.
Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Re: Update on toner transfer problems reported a week ago....
2005-11-16 by Stefan Trethan
... But a lightbox doesn t laminate anything and a laminator doesn t expose anything. What good is the one when you require the other? ST
Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] A $500.00 "UV" non-trivial exposure box.....
2005-11-16 by Stefan Trethan
On Wed, 16 Nov 2005 02:32:08 +0100, derekhawkins ... Well, that s just an opinion, and as such just as valid as mine, which is the
Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] A $500.00 "UV" non-trivial exposure box.....
2005-11-16 by Mike Young
More out of curiousity than actually contemplating switching technologies... Would it be alright to run acetate through a Laserjet? I have this (likely
Re: A $500.00 "UV" non-trivial exposure box.....
2005-11-16 by derekhawkins
... Each tube is actually a separate lamp with its own ballast and starter. The lamps were on sale at the time with each costing less than a single UV tube.
Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] A $500.00 "UV" non-trivial exposure box.....
2005-11-16 by Russell Shaw
... Did you use a single ballast and series connection for those tubes? How many starters did it need?
Re: Update on toner transfer problems reported a week ago....
2005-11-16 by ballendo
Seems a lightbox is easier and cheaper than making a laminator... Ballendo ... Rapid ... Black ... to ... 100mm ... tubes ... place ... wrap ... first set ...
Re: Update on toner transfer problems reported a week ago....
2005-11-16 by ballendo
Think and tinker has step by step directions for an excellent exposure setup. Not expensive either. Calibration is easy inexpensive, and also described.
Re: Update on toner transfer problems reported a week ago....
2005-11-16 by ballendo
Les, Excellent post. Masny will find that TT combined with CNC drilling is a bad combination. (Assuming the CNC is of decent accuracy ) Ballendo ... my ...
Product design realities was Re: Brute and Hawk Mills
2005-11-16 by ballendo
... What possibly gives you the omnipotence to say this? You have absolutely no idea of the status of the Roadrunners. If you--and Chris-- choose to doubt me,
A $500.00 "UV" non-trivial exposure box.....
2005-11-16 by derekhawkins
made from two draws (from a roadside garbage dump) sawn in half and epoxied together. No form of collimation whatsoever, can do .007 tracks and spacing with
Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Re: Update on toner transfer problems reported a week ago....
2005-11-16 by Russell Shaw
... I ve done 10cm x 10cm boards full of 8mil tracks and spacing for fine pitch 128pin DSP chips and FPGAs using the uv method and there was no track breakages
Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Re: Update on toner transfer problems reported a week ago....
2005-11-16 by Les Newell
Hi Mike, ... I have no problems with a very basic setup. I admit I tend to stick to 12 thou track/gap because I know it will work every time. For one-offs size
Re: Brute and Hawk Mills
2005-11-15 by Steve
Every mention of CNC does not need to be an opportunity to poke at Ballendo. Please give it a rest. Steve Greenfield listowner
Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Re: Update on toner transfer problems reported a week ago....
2005-11-15 by Les Newell
There isn t much to my system. I use an Epson colour printer with Rapid Electronics inkjet transparency. I found that green works best. Black and red both seem
Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Re: Update on toner transfer problems reported a week ago....
2005-11-15 by Stefan Trethan
... I do this on toner transfer no problems. Must work easily with photo. ST
Re: Update on toner transfer problems reported a week ago....
2005-11-15 by mikezcnc
Les, I agree that that is the ultimate method of making PCBs but...you forgot to mention follwing problems: 1. You must have a good UV exposure box-- let s not
Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Re: Update on toner transfer problems reported a week ago....
2005-11-15 by Jim Miller
Hi Les Is your method written up somewhere? What sort of linewidths do you have success with? I m looking at doing some work with AD9958 this winter and it has
Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Re: Update on toner transfer problems reported a week ago....
2005-11-15 by Les Newell
I think I ll stick to photo etching. Print onto transparency with my cheap Epson inkjet (green works best for some reason), expose in a light box for 7
Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Re: Update on toner transfer problems reported a week ago....
2005-11-15 by Stefan Trethan
... You forgot sometimes . Even on the same PCB with the same iron and layout and operator i had it work one time, and not the other. Just too many variables
Re: Update on toner transfer problems reported a week ago....
2005-11-15 by lcdpublishing
LOL! I agree!
Re: Update on toner transfer problems reported a week ago....
2005-11-15 by mikezcnc
I know it works. It works on some sizes, some tracks and now on some PCBs. Ironing is not a way to live a quality life. Never was ;) Mike
Re: Update on toner transfer problems reported a week ago....
2005-11-15 by mikezcnc
Chris, I see you somewhat admitted your guilt of not using a laminator ;) Welcome to a group that can make a 100% proof PCB under 1 hour at midnight. 10 times.
Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Re: Update on toner transfer problems reported a week ago....
2005-11-15 by Stefan Trethan
On Tue, 15 Nov 2005 16:46:03 +0100, lcdpublishing ... single time, i took care to make it run extra slow. I m not a 100% sure, but i think i once timed a A4
Re: Brute and Hawk Mills
2005-11-15 by mikezcnc
Two things need to be mentioned: 1. Ballendo s machine is an idea, only an idea. That idea started 1.5 year ago and last release date was August 2004. After
Re: Brute and Hawk Mills
2005-11-15 by crankorgan
Chris, I also have pictures of machines built by customers. John
Re: Brute and Hawk Mills
2005-11-15 by lcdpublishing
Hi John, Also worth noting is that people can actually see your machines! Chris ... some ... then ... Roadrunner ... recall ... etc. ... looks ... price. I
Re: Update on toner transfer problems reported a week ago....
2005-11-15 by mikezcnc
That s true Stefan, I just wanted to give Chris a clue what might work for him because it worked for me and chances are very high it will work for everybody,
Re: Update on toner transfer problems reported a week ago....
2005-11-15 by lcdpublishing
Yes, the iron has been working perfect for me up to the point when I got some new PCB material. That s when everything went to hell with the process. The
Re: Update on toner transfer problems reported a week ago....
2005-11-15 by lcdpublishing
OKay, that sounds good. There is a place a few miles away that recycles computers and such. The next time I am up that way I will check with them to see what
Re: Update on toner transfer problems reported a week ago....
2005-11-15 by mikezcnc
aaa, fuser... Chris is not using a laminator!!! Chris, save your time on making your own laminator and get yourself a real laminator. I have two, one is the
Re: Brute and Hawk Mills
2005-11-15 by crankorgan
Chris, The Brute is 5 years old and the Hawk is two years old. Many people have build them. I just figured I would mention it since some people have been
Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Re: Update on toner transfer problems reported a week ago....
2005-11-15 by Stefan Trethan
On Tue, 15 Nov 2005 16:13:24 +0100, lcdpublishing ... I agree, i wouldn t like buying something to hack it, especially if it is mostly cheap plastic crap you
Re: Brute and Hawk Mills
2005-11-15 by lcdpublishing
Hi John, Ballendo was in here a couple of weeks ago announcing his Roadrunner [?] router/pcb mills that he is making. His machine, if I recall correctly,
Re: Brute and Hawk Mills
2005-11-15 by bob_ledoux
I can speak highly of Crankorgan s plans and support. The plans are well documented. His support website is among the best.
Re: Update on toner transfer problems reported a week ago....
2005-11-15 by lcdpublishing
Stefan, The fuser that you are using, where did you get it from? Is there anything in particular that I should look for in a used laser printer that would
Re: Update on toner transfer problems reported a week ago....
2005-11-15 by lcdpublishing
Hi Mike, I think with the toner transfer stuff, what works for any of us doesn t actually mean it is going to work for someone else. There are a lot of
Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Re: Update on toner transfer problems reported a week ago....
2005-11-15 by Stefan Trethan
It should be possible to figure out if the paper is the problem by inspecting the results. Did the toner stick to the paper? Is it too fibery? Where it
Re: Update on toner transfer problems reported a week ago....
2005-11-15 by mikezcnc
Chris, Thickness of the board is another issue I didn t want to add it to my answer to simplify the matteer. I am using 40 and 60 mills fiberglass and 60
Brute and Hawk Mills
2005-11-15 by crankorgan
Hi All, I sell plans for two kinds of CNC mills that have been used for milling and drilling PCB. They both use Derin Gibs and Gibs. Neither uses homemade
Re: Update on toner transfer problems reported a week ago....
2005-11-15 by lcdpublishing
Hi Mike, thanks for the info. How thick of a board can you pass through that laminator that you modified? Chris ... ia ... I ... map. ... worked ... Heavy ...
Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Re: There is no way that water soluable paper will work for TT.
2005-11-15 by Mike Newman
My results are achieved by coating the paper with mucilage before laser printing the toner. The mucilage wil dissolve during soaking, and the paper will float
Re: Update on toner transfer problems reported a week ago....
2005-11-15 by mikezcnc
Chris, I presume you are using a laminator (if not- that is a different subject :))) I am not in favor of pre-etching because it adds another wet-dirt
Update on toner transfer problems reported a week ago....
2005-11-14 by lcdpublishing
Hi All, I figure I might as well keep reporting my toner transfer failures and successes as it may help someone else. Brief recap of problem.. Using a wide
GBC H200/210 modification
2005-11-12 by cristian
Re: GBC H200 Laminator modifications. I can only find H210. Is it mechanically similar to H200? Can it be modified to laminate the 1.6mm PCB? Cristian
Re: Minimalist drill press
2005-11-12 by bob_ledoux
I use a Prosnip S20 offset hand sheet metal shears to cut my circuit boards. It does it clean and smooth. I always file the copper edges of my bords to keep