Re: Electrostatic Toner Transfer
2004-11-13 by crankorgan
Phil, I saw that right away. The funny part is the guy I was replying to to did not get upset. John
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2004-11-13 by crankorgan
Phil, I saw that right away. The funny part is the guy I was replying to to did not get upset. John
2004-11-13 by gettingalongwouldbenice
... It s one of the few constants of the internet. All roads lead to an eventual pissing contest. But sometimes...something good dribbles out along the
2004-11-13 by Phil
... Does anyone else see the irony in two people fighting over comments made to some one named gettingalongwouldbenice? Phil
2004-11-13 by crankorgan
James, If the toner flows in order to fill voids than it will flow where you don t want it. No matter what I say won t matter anyway if he gets it to work
2004-11-13 by James Newton
Look at the pictures he uploaded. It worked. No pinholes. My bet is that even if all the toner doesn t transfer to the PCB, the fact that it is being melted to
2004-11-13 by crankorgan
James, Some of the toner will stick to the paper and he will get an image that will have pinholes. Wishful thinking won t make it work. It will all come down
2004-11-13 by gettingalongwouldbenice
I ve been looking at ways to use a router to make circuit boards. The Eagle Package has a tool that creates a router path around each trace. That should work
2004-11-13 by crankorgan
James, People have used layout blue used by metal workers. Make sure you use a tip that creates enough isolation between traces. If you don t you will have
2004-11-13 by Brian Schmalz
Yup, I do Scratch and Etch. I ve made boards that way. I use an HP plotter (one of the larger ones). The trick is the paint as you say - I use Dykem, which
2004-11-13 by gettingalongwouldbenice
I made a Photo Album for Electrostatic Toner Transfer. Ain t perfect, but was the best I could do in 15 minutes of experimentation. I m dragging my feet on
2004-11-13 by James Newton
Haveing just taken a shot at John for being condecending to a new idea, I should admit that I also think his Scratch and Etch idea is totally brilliant. Has
2004-11-13 by James Newton
I don t see how your comment has anything to do with Mikes idea. Yes, the toner and the paper are charged the same. So what? They have been loosing their
2004-11-12 by crankorgan
I seem to remember someone selling a hand held heated steel roller. It might work better than a standard iron or laminator. John
2004-11-12 by Phil
... I ve been thinking about this some more. I use a paper towel with a little acetone on it to wipe off the toner (or clean the copper). At most the acetone
2004-11-12 by crankorgan
I think you should read this page http://www.physics.uoguelph.ca/summer/scor/articles/scor54.htm Once the toner is on the paper the charge of the paper and the
2004-11-12 by Dave
... terrible. ... I think it has to do with the type of board. I ve had this problem before, too (although it s been a couple of years since I ve etched any
2004-11-12 by Thomas
take a look at the Z80 on glass http://www.z80.info/sharp/z80_glas.htm Thomas [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2004-11-12 by Derryck Croker
... I only ever quote the bits I m responding to. ... You re right, that was my mistake, but you could still use the idea. -- Cheers Derryck
2004-11-12 by Cristian
Gary, I run W98 and I m ready to test. Cristian ... Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version:
2004-11-12 by Phil
It sounds like a heat problem. either the iron isn t hot enough or the xerox toner fuses at a higher temp. I d bet its the toner. FWIW, canon PC700 copier
2004-11-12 by RMustakos
I m on travel and don t have access to my normal printer. I was trying to make a board last night, using inkjet paper and a xerox machine - er Xerox machine -
2004-11-12 by gettingalongwouldbenice
I tried the eraser trick. Soft non-abraisive eraser is just a thumb that doesn t get sore. That s useful. Abrasive eraser takes off anything it can get at.
2004-11-12 by tlclotus
The 2.7 MB file has four files in it. They are a text document (1 KB) the setup.exe (140 KB) the setup.lst (10 KB) and a cab (cabinet file) (2,679KB). The cab
2004-11-12 by gettingalongwouldbenice
... Yes, I have. The link below shows up as a 404 error for me. But there are indeed countless other sites. ... You conveniently snipped the problem area. ...
2004-11-12 by gettingalongwouldbenice
... Nope. You can use a dimmer to adjust the POWER. That s not exactly correct, but close enough for our purposes. For a given power input, there will be a
2004-11-12 by gettingalongwouldbenice
... wrote: snip ... Come on down and I ll let you try out my stun gun. The manual says 50,000 Volts. It ll jump a 2 gap. Do I get to pick the body part we
2004-11-12 by Gary
So far over 20 persons have obtained that file and All are Happy with it. Take care.....Gary
2004-11-12 by Gary
Is there someone on here that could try an experiment with that Tci PCB Program. I was Curious Why the Downloaded program was 2.7mb, when the actual program is
2004-11-11 by jgalinat2004
Gary, Thanks for the file! Your modified tci.exe worked like a charm. The program seems pretty easy to use. I am working on some simple PIC circuits & some of
2004-11-11 by Phil
... I m confused here. I though you said the staples paper released completely and left no paper residue.
2004-11-11 by Phil
... leading to ... is much ... You know, I don t understand why you are having this problem with acetone. I use it and it leaves no stains on my FR4 material
2004-11-11 by cybermace5
... It appears that the chemical which destroys the plant fibers is sulphuric acid. In the case of the product I mentioned above, the sulphuric acid is
2004-11-11 by Stefan Trethan
And sodium bisulphate is used in small pools as PH-. I have some i think, will try tomorrow. Damn that would be good if i finally had some use for that. Now
2004-11-11 by Stefan Trethan
... It s sodium bisulphate. look here, a custm recepie: someone buy it and try it please. ST
2004-11-11 by cybermace5
... component ... hard on ... Wouldn t this work? http://www.wwwearables.com/notions/fiberetch/fiber_etch.htm I don t know if it s appeared on this group
2004-11-11 by Steve
... You are a member, you have approval. Anyone here can upload files, photos, and links. Try to save images as JPG, GIF, or PNG. See here for tips on which
2004-11-11 by cybermace5
... If you need a place to host images like these, let me know. As long as it stays related to technology and doesn t turn into a family photo album, I can
2004-11-11 by gmc_za
I have made a solution of 1 part HCL (30%), 1 part Hydrogen Peroxide (30%) and 2 parts H2O (I ve also tried 1 part H20) and my board takes about 30-45 mins to
2004-11-11 by Phil
... You are asking about an open loop temperature control mechanism. This will sort of work but a closed loop (feedback) mechanism will work a lot better.
2004-11-11 by Norman Stewart
It will add the driving voltage once for each stage. 120 volts AC in, 1st stage = 120 v; 2nd stage=240v; 3rd stage=360v (not 480v); etc. etc. Current supply
2004-11-11 by Udara Dewamuni
Does anyone know more about the Silver Paste Through Hole (SPTH) method? According to my knowledge that s the easiest way of through hole plating while using
2004-11-11 by mikezcnc
My laser is Laser 1 on 2, don t remember. I took it apart and it take some searching for th heater element leads, but it my case it runs from left to right,
2004-11-11 by Derryck Croker
... Positive. Have you checked the web? for one, and there are 1,000 s more
2004-11-11 by Stefan Trethan
... I don t know why acetone is terrible, but it attacks the epoxy, leading to toner smeared into it. Paint thinner doesn t do that. From a health point of
2004-11-11 by Bob Weiss
For removing the toner once you etched the board, I use Laquer thinner. it comes right off with no effort. ... so ... with ... this ... etched ... but ...
2004-11-11 by mikezcnc
Yes! I just wanted pepole to see those steps one more time and remember them. As simple as your method is, that is what makes it so great. We had discussions
2004-11-11 by Stefan Trethan
... As i suggested some time ago, foam rubber does a similar thing. If you want to get all the paper off (to make it look good as component legend) take a
2004-11-11 by Bob Weiss
You got the steps correct. I was surprised myself when it started taking it off with ease.. For long straight traces that had alot of paper still in between, I
2004-11-11 by mikezcnc
Bob, That is an asome suggestion, a true breakthru in the TT process. I am using Staples paper with GBC H200, soaking in cold water for an hour and removal of
2004-11-11 by gettingalongwouldbenice
... You sure about that? mike