Homebrew PCBs

Hi I have just joined this group.

I am the author of PCBCAD17 a great PCB design program.
It is available on ebay for just a few pounds.

http://web.ukonline.co.uk/cresswellavenue/pcbcad17.htm

----- Original Message ----- 

From: "Nigel Wright" <cresswellavenue@...>
To: <Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2006 2:18 PM
Subject: [Homebrew_PCBs] new member


> Hi I have just joined this group.
>
> I am the author of PCBCAD17 a great PCB design program.
> It is available on ebay for just a few pounds.
>
> http://web.ukonline.co.uk/cresswellavenue/pcbcad17.htm

I'd be ashamed to admit it if I was responsible for something like that. 8-)

Leon

Why whats wrong with it?

5000 customers with any serious complaints is nothing to be ashamed about.

Nigel

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Leon Heller 
  To: Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2006 5:16 PM
  Subject: Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] new member


  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: "Nigel Wright" <cresswellavenue@...>
  To: <Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com>
  Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2006 2:18 PM
  Subject: [Homebrew_PCBs] new member

  > Hi I have just joined this group.
  >
  > I am the author of PCBCAD17 a great PCB design program.
  > It is available on ebay for just a few pounds.
  >
  > http://web.ukonline.co.uk/cresswellavenue/pcbcad17.htm

  I'd be ashamed to admit it if I was responsible for something like that. 8-)

  Leon 



   

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--- In Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com, "Leon Heller" <leon.heller@...>
wrote:
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Nigel Wright" <cresswellavenue@...>

> > Hi I have just joined this group.
> >
> > I am the author of PCBCAD17 a great PCB design program.
> > It is available on ebay for just a few pounds.
> >
> > http://web.ukonline.co.uk/cresswellavenue/pcbcad17.htm
> 
> I'd be ashamed to admit it if I was responsible for something like
that. 8-)

What do you mean? Being specific about what you do or don't like is
one thing, just posting a snide remark like that doesn't help anyone.

Steve Greenfield

I was just introducing myself and what I do.

Nothing snide about that.

Are you a seller of PCB software?
No one else seems to have got upset at an innocent posting!

Nigel

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Steve 
  To: Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2006 5:38 PM
  Subject: [Homebrew_PCBs] Re: new member


  --- In Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com, "Leon Heller" <leon.heller@...>
  wrote:
  >
  > ----- Original Message ----- 
  > From: "Nigel Wright" <cresswellavenue@...>

  > > Hi I have just joined this group.
  > >
  > > I am the author of PCBCAD17 a great PCB design program.
  > > It is available on ebay for just a few pounds.
  > >
  > > http://web.ukonline.co.uk/cresswellavenue/pcbcad17.htm
  > 
  > I'd be ashamed to admit it if I was responsible for something like
  that. 8-)

  What do you mean? Being specific about what you do or don't like is
  one thing, just posting a snide remark like that doesn't help anyone.

  Steve Greenfield



   

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

----- Original Message ----- 

From: "Steve" <alienrelics@...>
To: <Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2006 5:38 PM
Subject: [Homebrew_PCBs] Re: new member


> --- In Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com, "Leon Heller" <leon.heller@...>
> wrote:
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Nigel Wright" <cresswellavenue@...>
>
>> > Hi I have just joined this group.
>> >
>> > I am the author of PCBCAD17 a great PCB design program.
>> > It is available on ebay for just a few pounds.
>> >
>> > http://web.ukonline.co.uk/cresswellavenue/pcbcad17.htm
>>
>> I'd be ashamed to admit it if I was responsible for something like
> that. 8-)
>
> What do you mean? Being specific about what you do or don't like is
> one thing, just posting a snide remark like that doesn't help anyone.

He annoyed lots of people on one of the NGs by pretending to be a satisfied 
customer, at least he hasn't done that this time. The examples on his eBay 
page are about the most amateurish PCB designs I've ever seen!

Leon

Not even me...

Though you have "joined" a lot of groups lately, just to promote your
software and not add anything to each groups activities.

How about a little background on you and your software, your website is a
bit sparse, and the software description and examples do not allow a decent
comaprison between your software and others.

Are you really the author?

TANSTAAFL*

Myc

TANSTAAFL means There Ain't No Such Thing As A Free Lunch. In other words
you get what you pay for.

On 7/25/06, cresswell <cresswellavenue@...> wrote:
>
>   I was just introducing myself and what I do.
>
> Nothing snide about that.
>
> Are you a seller of PCB software?
> No one else seems to have got upset at an innocent posting!
>
> Nigel
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Steve
> To: Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com <Homebrew_PCBs%40yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2006 5:38 PM
> Subject: [Homebrew_PCBs] Re: new member
>
> --- In Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com <Homebrew_PCBs%40yahoogroups.com>,
> "Leon Heller" <leon.heller@...>
> wrote:
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Nigel Wright" <cresswellavenue@...>
>
> > > Hi I have just joined this group.
> > >
> > > I am the author of PCBCAD17 a great PCB design program.
> > > It is available on ebay for just a few pounds.
> > >
> > > http://web.ukonline.co.uk/cresswellavenue/pcbcad17.htm
> >
> > I'd be ashamed to admit it if I was responsible for something like
> that. 8-)
>
> What do you mean? Being specific about what you do or don't like is
> one thing, just posting a snide remark like that doesn't help anyone.
>
> Steve Greenfield
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>  
>


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

I was talking to Leon, not you. You appear to be the only one getting
upset, I see the 13 other abusive posts you put up, fortunately I left
you on Moderated status. I also see you posted loads of fake Links
abusing me and others here, and loads of pictures of your face in
other people's Photos folders.

Thunk.

Steve Greenfield

--- In Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com, "cresswell"
<cresswellavenue@...> wrote:

>
> I was just introducing myself and what I do.
> 
> Nothing snide about that.
> 
> Are you a seller of PCB software?
> No one else seems to have got upset at an innocent posting!
> 
> Nigel
> 
> 
>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: Steve 
>   To: Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com 
>   Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2006 5:38 PM
>   Subject: [Homebrew_PCBs] Re: new member
> 
> 
>   --- In Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com, "Leon Heller" <leon.heller@>
>   wrote:
>   >
>   > ----- Original Message ----- 
>   > From: "Nigel Wright" <cresswellavenue@>
> 
>   > > Hi I have just joined this group.
>   > >
>   > > I am the author of PCBCAD17 a great PCB design program.
>   > > It is available on ebay for just a few pounds.
>   > >
>   > > http://web.ukonline.co.uk/cresswellavenue/pcbcad17.htm
>   > 
>   > I'd be ashamed to admit it if I was responsible for something like
>   that. 8-)
> 
>   What do you mean? Being specific about what you do or don't like is
>   one thing, just posting a snide remark like that doesn't help anyone.
> 
>   Steve Greenfield
> 
> 
> 
>    
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

Well, I'd found his past mis-steps on other groups but was willing to
give him a chance here, as he started off on the right foot.

Sadly he's now posted a message (I left him on Moderated status)
saying "Moderator is a f*****g c**k s***ing wanker !!" about 20 times.
Then every reply he posted after that says things like "moderator is a
f*****g c**t", or is just one quoted message repeated about 20 times
just to annoy me, or reply to someone just to insult them, .

Sad, since -I- was kind of defending him. He didn't read closely
enough, he thought I was calling -his- post "snide". If that's all it
takes for such a reaction, I don't want him here.

Steve Greenfield 
listowner

--- In Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com, "Leon Heller" <leon.heller@...>
wrote:
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Steve" <alienrelics@...>
> To: <Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2006 5:38 PM
> Subject: [Homebrew_PCBs] Re: new member
> 
> 
> > --- In Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com, "Leon Heller" <leon.heller@>
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message ----- 
> >> From: "Nigel Wright" <cresswellavenue@>
> >
> >> > Hi I have just joined this group.
> >> >
> >> > I am the author of PCBCAD17 a great PCB design program.
> >> > It is available on ebay for just a few pounds.
> >> >
> >> > http://web.ukonline.co.uk/cresswellavenue/pcbcad17.htm
> >>
> >> I'd be ashamed to admit it if I was responsible for something like
> > that. 8-)
> >
> > What do you mean? Being specific about what you do or don't like is
> > one thing, just posting a snide remark like that doesn't help anyone.
> 
> He annoyed lots of people on one of the NGs by pretending to be a
satisfied 
> customer, at least he hasn't done that this time. The examples on
his eBay 

> page are about the most amateurish PCB designs I've ever seen!
> 
> Leon
>

Phew, that was close!  I was waiting to find out a bit more about 
his software as I was considering getting it.  At the price it was 
worth a shot if I could figure out how to use it and such.  But, 
seeing as he is "one of those", I don't think I want to be doing 
business with him.

Bummer

Chris



--- In Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com, "Steve" <alienrelics@...> 
wrote:
>
> Well, I'd found his past mis-steps on other groups but was willing 
to
> give him a chance here, as he started off on the right foot.
> 
> Sadly he's now posted a message (I left him on Moderated status)
> saying "Moderator is a f*****g c**k s***ing wanker !!" about 20 
times.
> Then every reply he posted after that says things like "moderator 
is a
> f*****g c**t", or is just one quoted message repeated about 20 
times
> just to annoy me, or reply to someone just to insult them, .
> 
> Sad, since -I- was kind of defending him. He didn't read closely
> enough, he thought I was calling -his- post "snide". If that's all 
it
> takes for such a reaction, I don't want him here.
> 
> Steve Greenfield 
> listowner
> 
> --- In Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com, "Leon Heller" <leon.heller@>
> wrote:
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Steve" <alienrelics@>
> > To: <Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2006 5:38 PM
> > Subject: [Homebrew_PCBs] Re: new member
> > 
> > 
> > > --- In Homebrew_PCBs@...m, "Leon Heller" 
<leon.heller@>
> > > wrote:
> > >>
> > >> ----- Original Message ----- 
> > >> From: "Nigel Wright" <cresswellavenue@>
> > >
> > >> > Hi I have just joined this group.
> > >> >
> > >> > I am the author of PCBCAD17 a great PCB design program.
> > >> > It is available on ebay for just a few pounds.
> > >> >
> > >> > http://web.ukonline.co.uk/cresswellavenue/pcbcad17.htm
> > >>
> > >> I'd be ashamed to admit it if I was responsible for something 
like
> > > that. 8-)
> > >
> > > What do you mean? Being specific about what you do or don't 
like is
> > > one thing, just posting a snide remark like that doesn't help 
anyone.

> > 
> > He annoyed lots of people on one of the NGs by pretending to be a
> satisfied 
> > customer, at least he hasn't done that this time. The examples on
> his eBay 
> > page are about the most amateurish PCB designs I've ever seen!
> > 
> > Leon
> >
>

It's moot, I've banned him. What a jerk.

He's posted fake links abusing me and other members of the list, and
posted pictures of his ass (hence my comment about pictures of his
face) in the Photos section. Maybe in Files, too.

Please let me know if you notice anything I've missed deleting.

Steve Greenfield

--- In Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com, "Myc Holmes" <mycroft2152y@...>
wrote:
>
> Not even me...
> 
> Though you have "joined" a lot of groups lately, just to promote your
> software and not add anything to each groups activities.
> 
> How about a little background on you and your software, your website
is a
> bit sparse, and the software description and examples do not allow a
decent
> comaprison between your software and others.
> 
> Are you really the author?
> 
> TANSTAAFL*
> 
> Myc
> 
> TANSTAAFL means There Ain't No Such Thing As A Free Lunch. In other
words
> you get what you pay for.
> 
> On 7/25/06, cresswell <cresswellavenue@...> wrote:
> >
> >   I was just introducing myself and what I do.
> >
> > Nothing snide about that.
> >
> > Are you a seller of PCB software?
> > No one else seems to have got upset at an innocent posting!
> >
> > Nigel
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Steve
> > To: Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com <Homebrew_PCBs%40yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2006 5:38 PM
> > Subject: [Homebrew_PCBs] Re: new member
> >
> > --- In Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com
<Homebrew_PCBs%40yahoogroups.com>,

> > "Leon Heller" <leon.heller@>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Nigel Wright" <cresswellavenue@>
> >
> > > > Hi I have just joined this group.
> > > >
> > > > I am the author of PCBCAD17 a great PCB design program.
> > > > It is available on ebay for just a few pounds.
> > > >
> > > > http://web.ukonline.co.uk/cresswellavenue/pcbcad17.htm
> > >
> > > I'd be ashamed to admit it if I was responsible for something like
> > that. 8-)
> >
> > What do you mean? Being specific about what you do or don't like is
> > one thing, just posting a snide remark like that doesn't help anyone.
> >
> > Steve Greenfield
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >  
> >
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

I found even more. He posted in Polls, Database, Links, and Photos. I
have yet to scan Files, I'm still cleaning out the Photos.

And I was kind of defending him. Imagine how he'd react to a bug report!

Steve Greenfield

--- In Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com, "lcdpublishing"
<lcdpublishing@...> wrote:

>
> Phew, that was close!  I was waiting to find out a bit more about 
> his software as I was considering getting it.  At the price it was 
> worth a shot if I could figure out how to use it and such.  But, 
> seeing as he is "one of those", I don't think I want to be doing 
> business with him.
> 
> Bummer
> 
> Chris
> 
> 
> 
> --- In Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com, "Steve" <alienrelics@> 
> wrote:
> >
> > Well, I'd found his past mis-steps on other groups but was willing 
> to
> > give him a chance here, as he started off on the right foot.
> > 
> > Sadly he's now posted a message (I left him on Moderated status)
> > saying "Moderator is a f*****g c**k s***ing wanker !!" about 20 
> times.
> > Then every reply he posted after that says things like "moderator 
> is a
> > f*****g c**t", or is just one quoted message repeated about 20 
> times
> > just to annoy me, or reply to someone just to insult them, .
> > 
> > Sad, since -I- was kind of defending him. He didn't read closely
> > enough, he thought I was calling -his- post "snide". If that's all 
> it
> > takes for such a reaction, I don't want him here.
> > 
> > Steve Greenfield 
> > listowner
> > 
> > --- In Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com, "Leon Heller" <leon.heller@>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > > From: "Steve" <alienrelics@>
> > > To: <Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2006 5:38 PM
> > > Subject: [Homebrew_PCBs] Re: new member
> > > 
> > > 
> > > > --- In Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com, "Leon Heller" 
> <leon.heller@>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> ----- Original Message ----- 
> > > >> From: "Nigel Wright" <cresswellavenue@>
> > > >
> > > >> > Hi I have just joined this group.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > I am the author of PCBCAD17 a great PCB design program.
> > > >> > It is available on ebay for just a few pounds.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > http://web.ukonline.co.uk/cresswellavenue/pcbcad17.htm
> > > >>
> > > >> I'd be ashamed to admit it if I was responsible for something 
> like
> > > > that. 8-)
> > > >
> > > > What do you mean? Being specific about what you do or don't 
> like is
> > > > one thing, just posting a snide remark like that doesn't help 
> anyone.
> > > 
> > > He annoyed lots of people on one of the NGs by pretending to be a
> > satisfied 
> > > customer, at least he hasn't done that this time. The examples on
> > his eBay 
> > > page are about the most amateurish PCB designs I've ever seen!
> > > 
> > > Leon
> > >
> >
>

--- Leon Heller <leon.heller@...> wrote:

> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Steve" <alienrelics@...>
> To: <Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2006 5:38 PM
> Subject: [Homebrew_PCBs] Re: new member
> 
> 
> > --- In Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com, "Leon
> Heller" <leon.heller@...>
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message ----- 
> >> From: "Nigel Wright" <cresswellavenue@...>
> >
> >> > Hi I have just joined this group.
> >> >
> >> > I am the author of PCBCAD17 a great PCB design
> program.
> >> > It is available on ebay for just a few pounds.
> >> >
> >> >
>
http://web.ukonline.co.uk/cresswellavenue/pcbcad17.htm
> >>
> >> I'd be ashamed to admit it if I was responsible
> for something like
> > that. 8-)
> >
> > What do you mean? Being specific about what you do
> or don't like is
> > one thing, just posting a snide remark like that
> doesn't help anyone.
> 
> He annoyed lots of people on one of the NGs by
> pretending to be a satisfied 
> customer, at least he hasn't done that this time.
> The examples on his eBay 
> page are about the most amateurish PCB designs I've
> ever seen!
> 
> Leon 

Those resistor symbols look like 5 or 10 watters.

- YD.


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----- Original Message ----- 

From: "YD" <yd_br@...>
To: <Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2006 8:01 PM
Subject: Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Re: new member


>
>
> --- Leon Heller <leon.heller@...> wrote:
>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Steve" <alienrelics@...>
>> To: <Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com>
>> Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2006 5:38 PM
>> Subject: [Homebrew_PCBs] Re: new member
>>
>>
>> > --- In Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com, "Leon
>> Heller" <leon.heller@...>
>> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> >> From: "Nigel Wright" <cresswellavenue@...>
>> >
>> >> > Hi I have just joined this group.
>> >> >
>> >> > I am the author of PCBCAD17 a great PCB design
>> program.
>> >> > It is available on ebay for just a few pounds.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>>
> http://web.ukonline.co.uk/cresswellavenue/pcbcad17.htm
>> >>
>> >> I'd be ashamed to admit it if I was responsible
>> for something like
>> > that. 8-)
>> >
>> > What do you mean? Being specific about what you do
>> or don't like is
>> > one thing, just posting a snide remark like that
>> doesn't help anyone.
>>
>> He annoyed lots of people on one of the NGs by
>> pretending to be a satisfied
>> customer, at least he hasn't done that this time.
>> The examples on his eBay
>> page are about the most amateurish PCB designs I've
>> ever seen!
>>
>> Leon
>
> Those resistor symbols look like 5 or 10 watters.
>

The schematic is also a bit strange (what one can see of it), the way he has 
done it makes it rather difficult to follow. I'd have thought he'd have 
spent a bit of time tidying it up. It doesn't create a very good impression.

Leon

I just looked at the group activity page. He didn't even wait to start
flaming, all that cr@p he posted in Links, Photos, Database, and Polls
was done by him before he sent this reply.

Geez. Whata hot-head.

Steve Greenfield

--- In Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com, "cresswell"
<cresswellavenue@...> wrote:

>
> I was just introducing myself and what I do.
> 
> Nothing snide about that.
> 
> Are you a seller of PCB software?
> No one else seems to have got upset at an innocent posting!
> 
> Nigel
> 
> 
>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: Steve 
>   To: Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com 
>   Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2006 5:38 PM
>   Subject: [Homebrew_PCBs] Re: new member
> 
> 
>   --- In Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com, "Leon Heller" <leon.heller@>
>   wrote:
>   >
>   > ----- Original Message ----- 
>   > From: "Nigel Wright" <cresswellavenue@>
> 
>   > > Hi I have just joined this group.
>   > >
>   > > I am the author of PCBCAD17 a great PCB design program.
>   > > It is available on ebay for just a few pounds.
>   > >
>   > > http://web.ukonline.co.uk/cresswellavenue/pcbcad17.htm
>   > 
>   > I'd be ashamed to admit it if I was responsible for something like
>   that. 8-)
> 
>   What do you mean? Being specific about what you do or don't like is
>   one thing, just posting a snide remark like that doesn't help anyone.
> 
>   Steve Greenfield
> 
> 
> 
>    
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

----- Original Message ----- 

From: "Steve" <alienrelics@...>
To: <Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2006 7:40 PM
Subject: [Homebrew_PCBs] Re: new member


> Well, I'd found his past mis-steps on other groups but was willing to
> give him a chance here, as he started off on the right foot.
>
> Sadly he's now posted a message (I left him on Moderated status)
> saying "Moderator is a f*****g c**k s***ing wanker !!" about 20 times.
> Then every reply he posted after that says things like "moderator is a
> f*****g c**t", or is just one quoted message repeated about 20 times
> just to annoy me, or reply to someone just to insult them, .
>
> Sad, since -I- was kind of defending him. He didn't read closely
> enough, he thought I was calling -his- post "snide". If that's all it
> takes for such a reaction, I don't want him here.

He just sent something similar to me. I've forwarded it to Yahoo (he has a 
Yahoo account) and his ISP.

Leon

Well,

I must admit though, I can write some pretty decent software and I 
could write PCB CAD software etc as I have already done it for metal 
working.  However, just because I can write the software does not mean 
I know how to design electronics circuits.  It's sort of like the guys 
on the space shuttle using some of the tools they have.  They can get 
into space, but can't build the tools they use.  Likewise, the guys at 
Snapon tools can make the tools, but couldn't get into orbit if they 
wanted to.

So, I wouldn't fault him for showing a  crude schematic, doesn't mean 
his software is bad, just shows he isn't an electronics designer.  
Then again, based on his antics today, he isn't much of a business man 
either!



> >> Leon
> >
> > Those resistor symbols look like 5 or 10 watters.
> >
> 
> The schematic is also a bit strange (what one can see of it), the 
way he has 
> done it makes it rather difficult to follow. I'd have thought he'd 
have 
> spent a bit of time tidying it up. It doesn't create a very good 
impression.

> 
> Leon
>

On Tue, 25 Jul 2006 21:39:38 +0200, Leon Heller  
<leon.heller@bulldoghome.com> wrote:

>
> The schematic is also a bit strange (what one can see of it), the way he  
> has
> done it makes it rather difficult to follow. I'd have thought he'd have
> spent a bit of time tidying it up. It doesn't create a very good  
> impression.
> Leon


Who knows, maybe components can not be rotated in his fab software.

Definitely not a person i want to do any business with, and i feel sorry  
for steve that he has to clean up after the tantrum ;-)

So i'd say i can go and update to that new version of Target then? Or are  
there and really good packages come out in the last year or so?

Now if one could just moderate the crickets which just took up band  
positions outside the window that would be great.... ;-)

ST

And he's rejoined under another profile and kept up his cr@p. I now
have twice as much garbage to clean out of Files, Photos, Polls, etc.

Now he's emailing me abuse off list.

What a jerk. What does he think he's accomplishing?

Steve Greenfield

--- In Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com, "lcdpublishing"
<lcdpublishing@...> wrote:

>
> Well,
> 
> I must admit though, I can write some pretty decent software and I 
> could write PCB CAD software etc as I have already done it for metal 
> working.  However, just because I can write the software does not mean 
> I know how to design electronics circuits.  It's sort of like the guys 
> on the space shuttle using some of the tools they have.  They can get 
> into space, but can't build the tools they use.  Likewise, the guys at 
> Snapon tools can make the tools, but couldn't get into orbit if they 
> wanted to.
> 
> So, I wouldn't fault him for showing a  crude schematic, doesn't mean 
> his software is bad, just shows he isn't an electronics designer.  
> Then again, based on his antics today, he isn't much of a business man 
> either!
>

Steve wrote:
> And he's rejoined under another profile and kept up his cr@p. I now
> have twice as much garbage to clean out of Files, Photos, Polls, etc.
>
> Now he's emailing me abuse off list.
>
> What a jerk. What does he think he's accomplishing?
>
>   
He's bored? 

Maybe you should change the moderation of the board to having their 
first message moderated (or something like that) if it keeps up.

Cheers,

Bryan


> Steve Greenfield
>
> --- In Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com, "lcdpublishing"
> <lcdpublishing@...> wrote:
>   
>> Well,
>>
>> I must admit though, I can write some pretty decent software and I 
>> could write PCB CAD software etc as I have already done it for metal 
>> working.  However, just because I can write the software does not mean 
>> I know how to design electronics circuits.  It's sort of like the guys 
>> on the space shuttle using some of the tools they have.  They can get 
>> into space, but can't build the tools they use.  Likewise, the guys at 
>> Snapon tools can make the tools, but couldn't get into orbit if they 
>> wanted to.
>>
>> So, I wouldn't fault him for showing a  crude schematic, doesn't mean 
>> his software is bad, just shows he isn't an electronics designer.  
>> Then again, based on his antics today, he isn't much of a business man 
>> either!
>>
>>     



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----- Original Message ----- 

From: "Steve" <alienrelics@...>
To: <Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2006 9:19 PM
Subject: [Homebrew_PCBs] Re: new member


> And he's rejoined under another profile and kept up his cr@p. I now
> have twice as much garbage to clean out of Files, Photos, Polls, etc.

I just had a look at the files - I can see where his utterances come from. 
8-)

Why not moderate all posts, files, etc. Less work than deleting stuff after 
it has been uploaded.

Leon

--- In Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com, Bryan Pope <bryan.pope@...> wrote:
>
> Steve wrote:

> > What a jerk. What does he think he's accomplishing?
> >
> >   
> He's bored? 
> 
> Maybe you should change the moderation of the board to having their 
> first message moderated (or something like that) if it keeps up.

That is how the list is set up. That doesn't cover anything but
posting messages. If I had not left him moderated, you'd have all seen
a dozen nasty flames from him.

As it is, I'm still cleaning out his cr@p from this list and
Homebrew_PCBs2.

Because of all this, both lists are now severely restricted regarding
uploading/creation of files, photos, databases, polls, links, etc.

If anyone gets a response from him off list, I strongly suggest you do
-not- reply. Instead, forward with full headers to abuse@... ,
abuse@... , and abuse@...

His current addresses and Yahoo IDs I'm aware of:
cresswellavenue@...
nigelwright7557
ianbowskill
ianbowskill2

I've wasted hours and hours today over this jerk.

Steve Greenfield

> -----Message d'origine-----
> De : Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com 
> [mailto:Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com] De la part de Steve
> Envoyé : juillet 25 2006 16:19
> À : Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com
> Objet : [Homebrew_PCBs] Re: new member
> 
> 
> And he's rejoined under another profile and kept up his cr@p. 
> I now have twice as much garbage to clean out of Files, 
> Photos, Polls, etc.
> 
> Now he's emailing me abuse off list.
> 
> What a jerk. What does he think he's accomplishing?
> 
> Steve Greenfield


I've grown wary of freeware and shareware, this clown just reinforces my
decision to stay with 'brand products' whenever I can.

One thing I've always been afraid of is trojan software.  I can easily
imagine this idiot slapping together a freeware, it doesn't have to be
fancy, but inside it has a keyboard scanner that relays key information back
to a remote (like anything that looks like a credit card number).

And this isn't imagination either, 'cause I've bought a keyboard scanner for
my own laptop.  I know if a 'guest' got on my personal computer instead of
using the family PC upstairs.  Sadly, you can't be too careful today, too
much at stake now that I use credit cards online.

Robert
:)

--- Steve <alienrelics@...> wrote:

> --- In Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com, Bryan Pope
> <bryan.pope@...> wrote:
> >
> > Steve wrote:
> 
> > > What a jerk. What does he think he's
> accomplishing?
> > >
> > >   
> > He's bored? 
> > 
> > Maybe you should change the moderation of the
> board to having their 
> > first message moderated (or something like that)
> if it keeps up.
> 
> That is how the list is set up. That doesn't cover
> anything but
> posting messages. If I had not left him moderated,
> you'd have all seen
> a dozen nasty flames from him.
> 
> As it is, I'm still cleaning out his cr@p from this
> list and
> Homebrew_PCBs2.
> 
> Because of all this, both lists are now severely
> restricted regarding
> uploading/creation of files, photos, databases,
> polls, links, etc.
> 
> If anyone gets a response from him off list, I
> strongly suggest you do
> -not- reply. Instead, forward with full headers to
> abuse@... ,
> abuse@... , and abuse@...
> 
> His current addresses and Yahoo IDs I'm aware of:
> cresswellavenue@...
> nigelwright7557
> ianbowskill
> ianbowskill2
> 
> I've wasted hours and hours today over this jerk.
> 
> Steve Greenfield

I got one too, of the highly (not) creative kind.
Probably all who took part in this thread got one.

- YD.


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On 2006-Jul 25, at 10:21hrs AM, cresswell wrote:

Why whats wrong with it?

5000 customers with any serious complaints is nothing to be ashamed  
about.

Nigel

----- Original Message -----
From: Leon Heller
To: Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2006 5:16 PM
Subject: Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] new member

----- Original Message -----
From: "Nigel Wright" <cresswellavenue@...>
To: <Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2006 2:18 PM
Subject: [Homebrew_PCBs] new member

 > Hi I have just joined this group.
 >
 > I am the author of PCBCAD17 a great PCB design program.
 > It is available on ebay for just a few pounds.
 >
 > http://web.ukonline.co.uk/cresswellavenue/pcbcad17.htm

I'd be ashamed to admit it if I was responsible for something like  
that. 8-)

Leon

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