Apple Logic Pro /LogicExpress Discussion

> I really don't understand why you keep making direct or indirect negative
> comments toward me.

Ok that was out of line too. I didn't want to direct it at you (the first time 
I did because I did think, and still think, that it was totally unreasonable 
but I made that point so that's done), I just wanted to point out that the 
list isn't as open as everyone claims to be. No forum is, moderated or not, 
and it shouldn't be. It's not critisism meant for you, what I meant to point 
out is that if one starts throwing mud, one will eventually either be 
moderated or end at another dead stop. People just use the classification 
"open" and "tolerant" without really knowing what it implies.

> Its about the 3rd or 4th time. And in keeping with my 
> philosphy of openess I let you criticize me and don't respond in kind.

Actually you do :o) And that's good, openess doesn't mean "not responding". 
Just as that disagreeing isn't the same as not allowing someone his opinion.

> Its 
> sad that you don't appreciate the tolerance shown here.

I appreciate the tolerance as far as it is here, I'm just saying out that 
LUG/Logic_Cafe is not as black&white evil/good as people make it seem here 
and that tolerance is never endless. Whether your message gets stopped by 
technical means or the sender just gets abused in response, doesn't really 
make a difference in the end.

> Lets do a little 
> experiment. Why don't you get on the LUG and criticize the LUG moderators
> (and make sure to name one of them like you have named me in the past) and
> make up some BS LUG "official opinion" - and lets see if they even let that
> message through or if you get banned for life?

What exactly is that supposed to prove? Of course the message won't get 
through. My point was that personal attacks suck, and hence they will be 
moderated if possible. Logic_Cafe isn't moderated so they can't be stopped 
before they're posted, but still if mudthrowing begins, somehow it 
will/should be stopped in other ways (that's good!) because - and this is 
what people keep forgetting - it's not all that nice if people "just say 
anything", no matter how politically correct it may sound.

On every unmoderated forum personal attack circles show up from time to time 
and by their nature prove the point of the LUG- or any other group's- 
moderators to ban personal attacks, whether aimed at themselves or anyone 
else.

> If you are so certain, then 
> you won't mind risking ever being on the LUG again would you?

Certain about what? I'm still puzzled what you want to prove with this.

Maurits.