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Re: [Logic_Cafe] Re: sheet music

2008-09-24 by John Kilgour

I wrote a simple piece of music, but cannot
Write notation - for example, I can play a
DMaj7, but don't really know how p write
It down on a piece of paper -





On Sep 24, 2008, at 10:42 AM, "Andy Brook" <bbgrove@...> wrote:

> Tim McLane writes:
>
> > For whatever it's worth: I don't do that because it is not a way  
> to get the idea across. If the person doesn't notate, then they need  
> to sing or play the idea into a recording.
>
> So if we are to take you up on your offer, would you need a simple
> recording, say piano and vocal only, or could you work from a full  
> demo that
> would have drums, bass etc on?
>
> Andy B
>
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Steve Currington
> > To: Logic_Cafe@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 10:24 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Logic_Cafe] Re: sheet music
> >
> >
> > I have had people send me a rough draft in hand-written music what
> > they want and asked me to notate it for them.
> > They did not have a notation package and have maybe recorded it as a
> > track and then scribbled it down by hand and want it produced in a
> > professional looking hard copy.
> > Some are provided nice and clean and clear and for others the hand-
> > written stuff is scruffy and incomplete.
> >
> > We are talking about the same sort of thing just with different
> > provided base materials to work from.
> >
> > So my comment stands.. depends on what is provided as to the work
> > involved and the associated costs.
> >
> > Stephen Currington
> > Wellington, New Zealand
> >
> > email: scurri @ singers.org.nz
> > currinstep @ myvuw.ac.nz
> >
> > On 24/09/2008, at 5:17 PM, Tim McLane wrote:
> >
> > > I don't understand this response and wonder if we are on the same
> > > page. The way I work is the person sends me an MP3 and by ear I
> > > write it out. Then I input it directly into Finale. What do you
> > > mean by your message below?
> > >
> > > t
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: Steve Currington
> > > To: Logic_Cafe@yahoogroups.com
> > > Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 9:24 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [Logic_Cafe] Re: sheet music
> > >
> > >
> > > My guess is it would depend on what you provide as the autograph  
> copy
> > > that the notation person has to use.
> > > Big Mess.. more time = more cost
> > >
> > > Clean copy shorter and easier work. less cost..
> > >
> > > That is reality.
> > >
> > > Stephen Currington
> > > Wellington, New Zealand
> > >
> > > email: scurri @ singers.org.nz
> > > currinstep @ myvuw.ac.nz
> > >
> > > On 24/09/2008, at 2:07 PM, John Kilgour wrote:
> > >
> > >> I would like to find a service where i could send them a song i  
> did,
> > >> and have them create a piece of PIANO/VOCAL/GUITAR sheet music  
> from
> > >> it. Does anyone know how does this, and how much it may cost?
> > >> On Sep 21, 2008, at 11:49 PM, Tim McLane wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> If you have Finale, Sibelius has a deal until Sept 30th, to  
> switch
> > >>> to Finale for 99. instead of the usual 400.
> > >>>
> > >>> ----- Original Message -----
> > >>> From: Steve Currington
> > >>> To: Logic_Cafe@yahoogroups.com
> > >>> Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2008 7:12 PM
> > >>> Subject: Re: [Logic_Cafe] Re: sheet music
> > >>>
> > >>> On 22/09/2008, at 1:42 PM, Steve Currington wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>> On 22/09/2008, at 1:25 PM, pinineco2001 wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> --- In Logic_Cafe@yahoogroups.com, GAmoore@... wrote:
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> Hey what do people use for a music notation program? Logic  
> does
> > >>>> it,
> > >>>>> but it
> > >>>>>>> seems a bit inflexible. I outputted things to midi, and was
> > >>>> able to
> > >>>>> open them in
> > >>>>>>> the demo versions of the Finale and convert to sheet  
> music. It
> > >>>> more
> > >>>>> or less
> > >>>>>>> did everything I wanted, eventually when I went to the
> > >>> higher end
> > >>>>> products, but
> > >>>>>>> it just seemed unfriendly. Even some thing like setting a  
> tempo
> > >>>>> quarter note
> > >>>>>>> = 120 bpm, took a number of steps, and you could not copy  
> and
> > >>>> paste
> > >>>>> chords and
> > >>>>>>> things. Is there some other good alternative to make a final
> > >>>> print
> > >>>>> versoin of
> > >>>>>>> a song?
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>> there are a few good programs to do music copying. the two  
> most
> > >>>>>> professionals use are finale and sibelius.
> > >>>>>> i do professional copying and use finale. i have heard the
> > >>> sibelius
> > >>>>>> user brag about it being the best program and finale users
> > >>> bragging
> > >>>>>> about finale being the best. i would say it is of personal  
> taste.
> > >>>>>> with either of them the learning curve can be steep  
> depending on
> > >>>> the
> > >>>>>> user's background.
> > >>>>>> i do recommend finale.
> > >>>>>> pinineco
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>> Hi...
> > >>>>
> > >>>> I am new to the group so to introduce myself.. I am a  
> composer in
> > >>> New
> > >>>> Zealand and have recently moved to a MAC environment and  
> purchased
> > >>>> Logic Studio (v8) to start learning a new compositional
> > >>>> environment.
> > >>>> Primarily, but not solely, for doing quality mock ups of some  
> of my
> > >>>> compositions and doing a little integrated live & electronic  
> stuff.
> > >>>> I am bound to ask a few dumb questions being a Logic virgin but
> > >>>> that
> > >>>> is fine.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> I have used both Finale and Sibelius and my personal choice is
> > >>>> Sibelius.. There is not much that one can do that the other  
> can't
> > >>>> (even if you occasionally have to figure out workarounds -
> > >>> applicable
> > >>>> to both applications) but I moved from Finale to Sibelius and  
> have
> > >>>> found Sibelius suits my work habits best. I also found it way  
> way
> > >>>> easier to learn and pick up as a tool. I have never regretted  
> the
> > >>>> move for a minute. As mentioned there are really strong  
> supporters
> > >>>> of both camps so I guess it is what best suits your work  
> habits and
> > >>>> processes etc but if fast learning and getting productive  
> quickly
> > >>> is a
> > >>>> criteria my vote is for Sibelius every time..
> > >>>>
> > >>>> I
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Stephen Currington
> > >>>> Wellington, New Zealand
> > >>>>
> > >>>> email: scurri @ singers.org.nz
> > >>>> currinstep @ student.vuw.ac.nz>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>
> > >>> And I forgot to add that Sibelius is well supported via the  
> Sibelius
> > >>> Yahoo Group with staff represented bringing very quick  
> responses to
> > >>> how to questions and issues.
> > >>> Daniel Spreadbury (Sibelius Product Manager) is extremely
> > >>> knowledgeable on the product and always on the list providing  
> real
> > >>> support and/or a direct link back between the users and the  
> product
> > >>> development team..
> > >>> This is a real bonus..
> > >>>
> > >>> Check the group out if you are interested... It is a very  
> friendly
> > >>> group.
> > >>>
> > >>> Stephen Currington
> > >>> Wellington, New Zealand
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