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Re: [Logic_Cafe] Re: sheet music

2008-09-24 by Tim McLane

That's no problem; more helpful to me would be what the end product would be, ie, lead sheet, piano arrangement, etc.

Does that help?

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  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: John Kilgour 
  To: Logic_Cafe@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2008 7:58 AM
  Subject: Re: [Logic_Cafe] Re: sheet music


  I wrote a simple piece of music, but cannot
  Write notation - for example, I can play a
  DMaj7, but don't really know how p write
  It down on a piece of paper -

  On Sep 24, 2008, at 10:42 AM, "Andy Brook" <bbgrove@...> wrote:

  > Tim McLane writes:
  >
  > > For whatever it's worth: I don't do that because it is not a way 
  > to get the idea across. If the person doesn't notate, then they need 
  > to sing or play the idea into a recording.
  >
  > So if we are to take you up on your offer, would you need a simple
  > recording, say piano and vocal only, or could you work from a full 
  > demo that
  > would have drums, bass etc on?
  >
  > Andy B
  >
  > > ----- Original Message -----
  > > From: Steve Currington
  > > To: Logic_Cafe@yahoogroups.com
  > > Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 10:24 PM
  > > Subject: Re: [Logic_Cafe] Re: sheet music
  > >
  > >
  > > I have had people send me a rough draft in hand-written music what
  > > they want and asked me to notate it for them.
  > > They did not have a notation package and have maybe recorded it as a
  > > track and then scribbled it down by hand and want it produced in a
  > > professional looking hard copy.
  > > Some are provided nice and clean and clear and for others the hand-
  > > written stuff is scruffy and incomplete.
  > >
  > > We are talking about the same sort of thing just with different
  > > provided base materials to work from.
  > >
  > > So my comment stands.. depends on what is provided as to the work
  > > involved and the associated costs.
  > >
  > > Stephen Currington
  > > Wellington, New Zealand
  > >
  > > email: scurri @ singers.org.nz
  > > currinstep @ myvuw.ac.nz
  > >
  > > On 24/09/2008, at 5:17 PM, Tim McLane wrote:
  > >
  > > > I don't understand this response and wonder if we are on the same
  > > > page. The way I work is the person sends me an MP3 and by ear I
  > > > write it out. Then I input it directly into Finale. What do you
  > > > mean by your message below?
  > > >
  > > > t
  > > >
  > > >
  > > > ----- Original Message -----
  > > > From: Steve Currington
  > > > To: Logic_Cafe@yahoogroups.com
  > > > Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 9:24 PM
  > > > Subject: Re: [Logic_Cafe] Re: sheet music
  > > >
  > > >
  > > > My guess is it would depend on what you provide as the autograph 
  > copy
  > > > that the notation person has to use.
  > > > Big Mess.. more time = more cost
  > > >
  > > > Clean copy shorter and easier work. less cost..
  > > >
  > > > That is reality.
  > > >
  > > > Stephen Currington
  > > > Wellington, New Zealand
  > > >
  > > > email: scurri @ singers.org.nz
  > > > currinstep @ myvuw.ac.nz
  > > >
  > > > On 24/09/2008, at 2:07 PM, John Kilgour wrote:
  > > >
  > > >> I would like to find a service where i could send them a song i 
  > did,
  > > >> and have them create a piece of PIANO/VOCAL/GUITAR sheet music 
  > from
  > > >> it. Does anyone know how does this, and how much it may cost?
  > > >> On Sep 21, 2008, at 11:49 PM, Tim McLane wrote:
  > > >>
  > > >>> If you have Finale, Sibelius has a deal until Sept 30th, to 
  > switch
  > > >>> to Finale for 99. instead of the usual 400.
  > > >>>
  > > >>> ----- Original Message -----
  > > >>> From: Steve Currington
  > > >>> To: Logic_Cafe@yahoogroups.com
  > > >>> Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2008 7:12 PM
  > > >>> Subject: Re: [Logic_Cafe] Re: sheet music
  > > >>>
  > > >>> On 22/09/2008, at 1:42 PM, Steve Currington wrote:
  > > >>>>
  > > >>>> On 22/09/2008, at 1:25 PM, pinineco2001 wrote:
  > > >>>>
  > > >>>>> --- In Logic_Cafe@yahoogroups.com, GAmoore@... wrote:
  > > >>>>>>>
  > > >>>>>>> Hey what do people use for a music notation program? Logic 
  > does
  > > >>>> it,
  > > >>>>> but it
  > > >>>>>>> seems a bit inflexible. I outputted things to midi, and was
  > > >>>> able to
  > > >>>>> open them in
  > > >>>>>>> the demo versions of the Finale and convert to sheet 
  > music. It
  > > >>>> more
  > > >>>>> or less
  > > >>>>>>> did everything I wanted, eventually when I went to the
  > > >>> higher end
  > > >>>>> products, but
  > > >>>>>>> it just seemed unfriendly. Even some thing like setting a 
  > tempo
  > > >>>>> quarter note
  > > >>>>>>> = 120 bpm, took a number of steps, and you could not copy 
  > and
  > > >>>> paste
  > > >>>>> chords and
  > > >>>>>>> things. Is there some other good alternative to make a final
  > > >>>> print
  > > >>>>> versoin of
  > > >>>>>>> a song?
  > > >>>>>
  > > >>>>>> there are a few good programs to do music copying. the two 
  > most
  > > >>>>>> professionals use are finale and sibelius.
  > > >>>>>> i do professional copying and use finale. i have heard the
  > > >>> sibelius
  > > >>>>>> user brag about it being the best program and finale users
  > > >>> bragging
  > > >>>>>> about finale being the best. i would say it is of personal 
  > taste.
  > > >>>>>> with either of them the learning curve can be steep 
  > depending on
  > > >>>> the
  > > >>>>>> user's background.
  > > >>>>>> i do recommend finale.
  > > >>>>>> pinineco
  > > >>>>>>
  > > >>>>>>
  > > >>>>>
  > > >>>> Hi...
  > > >>>>
  > > >>>> I am new to the group so to introduce myself.. I am a 
  > composer in
  > > >>> New
  > > >>>> Zealand and have recently moved to a MAC environment and 
  > purchased
  > > >>>> Logic Studio (v8) to start learning a new compositional
  > > >>>> environment.
  > > >>>> Primarily, but not solely, for doing quality mock ups of some 
  > of my
  > > >>>> compositions and doing a little integrated live & electronic 
  > stuff.
  > > >>>> I am bound to ask a few dumb questions being a Logic virgin but
  > > >>>> that
  > > >>>> is fine.
  > > >>>>
  > > >>>> I have used both Finale and Sibelius and my personal choice is
  > > >>>> Sibelius.. There is not much that one can do that the other 
  > can't
  > > >>>> (even if you occasionally have to figure out workarounds -
  > > >>> applicable
  > > >>>> to both applications) but I moved from Finale to Sibelius and 
  > have
  > > >>>> found Sibelius suits my work habits best. I also found it way 
  > way
  > > >>>> easier to learn and pick up as a tool. I have never regretted 
  > the
  > > >>>> move for a minute. As mentioned there are really strong 
  > supporters
  > > >>>> of both camps so I guess it is what best suits your work 
  > habits and
  > > >>>> processes etc but if fast learning and getting productive 
  > quickly
  > > >>> is a
  > > >>>> criteria my vote is for Sibelius every time..
  > > >>>>
  > > >>>> I
  > > >>>>
  > > >>>> Stephen Currington
  > > >>>> Wellington, New Zealand
  > > >>>>
  > > >>>> email: scurri @ singers.org.nz
  > > >>>> currinstep @ student.vuw.ac.nz>
  > > >>>>
  > > >>>>
  > > >>>
  > > >>> And I forgot to add that Sibelius is well supported via the 
  > Sibelius
  > > >>> Yahoo Group with staff represented bringing very quick 
  > responses to
  > > >>> how to questions and issues.
  > > >>> Daniel Spreadbury (Sibelius Product Manager) is extremely
  > > >>> knowledgeable on the product and always on the list providing 
  > real
  > > >>> support and/or a direct link back between the users and the 
  > product
  > > >>> development team..
  > > >>> This is a real bonus..
  > > >>>
  > > >>> Check the group out if you are interested... It is a very 
  > friendly
  > > >>> group.
  > > >>>
  > > >>> Stephen Currington
  > > >>> Wellington, New Zealand
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