Apple Logic Pro /LogicExpress Discussion

Hi good folks,
Can someone give me their subjective opinion comparing dp 4.52 and
logic pro ?
Pro's and con's ? Which is preferred and why etc ? Learning curve ?
Really appreciate your expertise. 
Thanks,
Hogleone

Hi Hogleone,

Before I tell you my experience I need to make it clear that MIDI is what I
use primarily for my song writing. I use audio tracks only for vocals and
for those instances where my MIDI synth can't quite create the sound that I
like. In that case I create an audio copy of a MIDI track and use Logic
plug-ins to enhance the sound.

I own Logic Pro, Sonar Producer Edition, Cubase SX3, and DP 4.5x.

Of all of those programs, Logic is *clearly* the best for MIDI editing. It
is the worst for easily setting up your external midi gear, but is extremely
flexible. I found Cubase a relatively close second for MIDI. Sonar came in
third and DP was dead last by a long shot. If you use midi regions in logic,
you will be very disappointed with DP. It has no equivalent. That alone was
enough for me to stop using it. However, beyond that, I found the DP
interface kludgy even though it has a polished look. I'm sure others will
disagree, but that is a personal preference kinda thing and that's how it
was for me.

I really can't comment intelligently on the audio aspects of DP - or Logic
for that matter. I just don't use it enough. Hopefully someone else can
provide some information on aspect of DP for you.

Kamm

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> Subject: [Logic_Cafe] comparison Digital performer 4.52 and 
> logic pro 7.1
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> Hi good folks,
> Can someone give me their subjective opinion comparing dp 
> 4.52 and logic pro ?
> Pro's and con's ? Which is preferred and why etc ? Learning curve ?
> Really appreciate your expertise. 
> Thanks,
> Hogleone
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Hello all- just read string of emails from Stamm(?) where you compare 
ease of external synth set up in DP and Logic.   As a relatively new 
Logic user, my main stumbling block is getting logic to speak to my 
K1000 - I can use it to play internal logic instruments, but can't get 
its own sounds in or out.  Any suggestions?
Patrick aka grendlbaron

Patrick,

I'm not sure what you mean by getting your K1000 sounds "in or out" of 
logic.  The problem is either MIDI or audio.  If you truly are trying 
to get the sounds of the K1000 into logic, you need to record them just 
like any other non-midi instrument, with audio cables.

i suspect though, that you are just trying to get your synth to respond 
to midi out information from logic.  I'm not at logic right now, so 
can't take you step by step, but here are the general areas I would 
look at:

When you play back a midi sequence on your k1000 track in arrange, does 
the midi data space on the transport window show the data being sent?

Do you have the instrument object set to the same master midi channel 
as the synth?

is the synth set up to receive multi midi data?

Have you initialized the patches on the instrument object in the 
Environment (ie, the little squares should have patch names and not be 
crossed out)?

Does the K1k show up in the audio/midi preferences pane?

Last but not least, do you have both the in and out midi cables 
attached?

There's probably more possible sources of the problem, but this is all 
I can think of off the top of my head.

Gregory

On Jul 2, 2005, at 1:45 PM, grendlbaron wrote:

>
>  Hello all- just read string of emails from Stamm(?) where you compare
>  ease of external synth set up in DP and Logic.   As a relatively new
>  Logic user, my main stumbling block is getting logic to speak to my
>  K1000 - I can use it to play internal logic instruments, but can't get
>  its own sounds in or out.  Any suggestions?
>  Patrick aka grendlbaron