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Lawsuits

2004-12-30 by Jon Pyre

Does research and development really come down to what it cost to do 
or to what your trying to achieve.  It's about control.  I could 
give a label my copyrighted music and they could try and rip me off 
anyway.  I just thought people wrote music to play music, but 
obviously there are people out there who make money from their music 
and others to write it to control it.  In either case maybe the 
Vervepipe and the Stones deserve each other, and maybe it's all just 
some crazy scheme to propagate more interest in something not that 
interesting or lucrative.

Copyrighting and Lawsuits

2004-12-30 by Mitchell DeFreytas

If there is anyone out there who would give away their
hard-earned  paycheck to someone claiming to have done
their work?  Who are you?  There is a reason we have
copyright laws to protect us. 

For some reason, there are those out there, who don't
equate songwriting with hard work.  It takes a lot of
creativity to write something original that stands out
of the pack of generic tunes the masses are spoonfed. 
If you want to do 'paint by numbers' music, buy rights
to put together a CD of other musician's work, like
what Rod Stewart is doing now.

Mitchell

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--- Jon Pyre <jonpyre@...> wrote:

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> Does research and development really come down to
> what it cost to do 
> or to what your trying to achieve.  It's about
> control.  I could 
> give a label my copyrighted music and they could try
> and rip me off 
> anyway.  I just thought people wrote music to play
> music, but 
> obviously there are people out there who make money
> from their music 
> and others to write it to control it.  In either
> case maybe the 
> Vervepipe and the Stones deserve each other, and
> maybe it's all just 
> some crazy scheme to propagate more interest in
> something not that 
> interesting or lucrative. 
> 
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Re: Copyrighting and Lawsuits

2004-12-30 by Jon Pyre

Is it a job or a labor of love, I'm all for song copyrights but how 
often do they work?  I guess it's just a matter of how much you want 
to pursue it.  Does your average musician have the time and money it 
takes to pursue a copyright enfringement?  Is it a matter of 
credibility if they've already made cost? These questions are 
rhetorical, they don't have answers.  It's like asking yourself how 
many of my own songs do I know how to play versus how many of other 
peoples songs.   Should I let everyone who's song I'm playing know 
I'm playing it?  What if I can't find them anymore, should that stop 
me from playing their songs.  Do any of you really believe that 
everytime a song's played on the radio somebody's make change off 
it?  

--- In Logic_Cafe@yahoogroups.com, Mitchell DeFreytas <hoomuse@y...> 
wrote:
> If there is anyone out there who would give away their
> hard-earned  paycheck to someone claiming to have done
> their work?  Who are you?  There is a reason we have
> copyright laws to protect us. 
> 
> For some reason, there are those out there, who don't
> equate songwriting with hard work.  It takes a lot of
> creativity to write something original that stands out
> of the pack of generic tunes the masses are spoonfed. 
> If you want to do 'paint by numbers' music, buy rights
> to put together a CD of other musician's work, like
> what Rod Stewart is doing now.
> 
> Mitchell
> 
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> --- Jon Pyre <jonpyre@s...> wrote:
> 
> > 
> > 
> > Does research and development really come down to
> > what it cost to do 
> > or to what your trying to achieve.  It's about
> > control.  I could 
> > give a label my copyrighted music and they could try
> > and rip me off 
> > anyway.  I just thought people wrote music to play
> > music, but 
> > obviously there are people out there who make money
> > from their music 
> > and others to write it to control it.  In either
> > case maybe the 
> > Vervepipe and the Stones deserve each other, and
> > maybe it's all just 
> > some crazy scheme to propagate more interest in
> > something not that 
> > interesting or lucrative. 
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Re: [Logic_Cafe] Re: Copyrighting and Lawsuits

2004-12-31 by Mitchell DeFreytas

Sorry, my point was not about it being a job or labor
of love.  
My point is that the reality of the music business is
that there 
are certain rules you follow or you get burnt.

There have been many lawsuits over plagerism.  George
Harrison was sued for 'My Sweet Lord', a slowed down
melody version of the 1960's song 'He's So Fine'. 
Protect yourself.  Things can come back to bite one in
the butt.

Mitchell

--- Jon Pyre <jonpyre@...> wrote:

> 
> 
> Is it a job or a labor of love, I'm all for song
> copyrights but how 
> often do they work?  I guess it's just a matter of
> how much you want 
> to pursue it.  Does your average musician have the
> time and money it 
> takes to pursue a copyright enfringement?  Is it a
> matter of 
> credibility if they've already made cost? These
> questions are 
> rhetorical, they don't have answers.  It's like
> asking yourself how 
> many of my own songs do I know how to play versus
> how many of other 
> peoples songs.   Should I let everyone who's song
> I'm playing know 
> I'm playing it?  What if I can't find them anymore,
> should that stop 
> me from playing their songs.  Do any of you really
> believe that 
> everytime a song's played on the radio somebody's
> make change off 
> it?  
> 
> --- In Logic_Cafe@yahoogroups.com, Mitchell
> DeFreytas <hoomuse@y...> 
> wrote:
> > If there is anyone out there who would give away
> their
> > hard-earned  paycheck to someone claiming to have
> done
> > their work?  Who are you?  There is a reason we
> have
> > copyright laws to protect us. 
> > 
> > For some reason, there are those out there, who
> don't
> > equate songwriting with hard work.  It takes a lot
> of
> > creativity to write something original that stands
> out
> > of the pack of generic tunes the masses are
> spoonfed. 
> > If you want to do 'paint by numbers' music, buy
> rights
> > to put together a CD of other musician's work,
> like
> > what Rod Stewart is doing now.
> > 
> > Mitchell
> > 
> > =========================================
> > --- Jon Pyre <jonpyre@s...> wrote:
> > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Does research and development really come down
> to
> > > what it cost to do 
> > > or to what your trying to achieve.  It's about
> > > control.  I could 
> > > give a label my copyrighted music and they could
> try
> > > and rip me off 
> > > anyway.  I just thought people wrote music to
> play
> > > music, but 
> > > obviously there are people out there who make
> money
> > > from their music 
> > > and others to write it to control it.  In either
> > > case maybe the 
> > > Vervepipe and the Stones deserve each other, and
> > > maybe it's all just 
> > > some crazy scheme to propagate more interest in
> > > something not that 
> > > interesting or lucrative. 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
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