Apple Logic Pro /LogicExpress Discussion

Hi,
I'm looking for a secure backup solution to save my precious data. At 
the moment I backup each day's work on a CD, but can I backup onto 
another hard-drive.
If so, is it best to use an external hard drive, or add another into 
one of the internal slots inside my Mac Pro.
And can someone recommend the best make of hard-drive to buy.
Thanks,
Tristan.

There are a lot of options - external firewire or usb2 drives or internal 
SATA drives. You can often find them on sale. The external drives have the 
benefit of being able to store them somewhere else. For example, if you record at 
home, and then there were to be a fire, you wouldn't lose your stuff backed up 
to a drive stored somewhere else.

I never use Logic's project manager but maybe I should. I just keep 
everything well organized by keeping the logic files in one folder and the audio in a 
folder on a separate internal drive. Any samples I am using, I copy them to the 
audio folder too so I can mess with them and not worry, plus they are 
together with recorded audio. You can then sort the folders by modification date and 
get the most recent stuff to back up to your external drives. It works for me.

> I'm looking for a secure backup solution to save my precious data. At
> the moment I backup each day's work on a CD, but can I backup onto
> another hard-drive.
> If so, is it best to use an external hard drive, or add another into
> one of the internal slots inside my Mac Pro.
> And can someone recommend the best make of hard-drive to buy.
> 




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I second what Greg said.  I use an external firewire for all audio -  
recordings, samples and MP3s.  All programs are with system on  
internal drive.

I back both up to external FW every couple of days.  Most backup  
programs will let you do incremental backups, so the first time you  
back up it will take forever (good thing to do overnight) but  
subsequent backups only save what's been changed, so are real quick.

The advantages to backing up to HD are speed and rewritability.   
Drives are so cheap now, you can even use them for archiving.  With  
Retrospect express, I choose the "Backup to File" option, as that  
doesn't commandeer the whole backup drive, and I can backup all my  
other drives to that one drive.

The only caveat to Express is that backups created with different  
version #s are neither backwards nor forwards compatible (or at least  
my experience from v.5 to v.6 showed that), so if you upgrade, always  
keep a copy of the old version in case you need to access an archive  
later on.

As for drive recommendations, backing up is probably the least  
demanding task a drive will encounter.  Also, when I was shopping for  
an audio drive (so speed was a concern), I found nothing but mixed  
messages on every drive I considered.  There doesn't seem to be a  
clear winner in the drive world.  I say get a really big drive.

Gregory


On Mar 10, 2007, at 12:04 PM, GAmoore@... wrote:

> There are a lot of options - external firewire or usb2 drives or  
> internal
> SATA drives. You can often find them on sale. The external drives  
> have the
> benefit of being able to store them somewhere else. For example, if  
> you record at
> home, and then there were to be a fire, you wouldn't lose your  
> stuff backed up
> to a drive stored somewhere else.
>
> I never use Logic's project manager but maybe I should. I just keep
> everything well organized by keeping the logic files in one folder  
> and the audio in a
> folder on a separate internal drive. Any samples I am using, I copy  
> them to the
> audio folder too so I can mess with them and not worry, plus they are
> together with recorded audio. You can then sort the folders by  
> modification date and
> get the most recent stuff to back up to your external drives. It  
> works for me.
>
> > I'm looking for a secure backup solution to save my precious  
> data. At
> > the moment I backup each day's work on a CD, but can I backup onto
> > another hard-drive.
> > If so, is it best to use an external hard drive, or add another into
> > one of the internal slots inside my Mac Pro.
> > And can someone recommend the best make of hard-drive to buy.
> >
>
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I have owned a bunch of them and they are all usually good. The one exception 
was one by AccomData. I put my entire itunes collection on it, and then it 
crashed hard - two weeks old. then they sent me a knew one, and it fails Apple's 
Disk Utility procedures over and over. So I have a $100 paperweight. But most 
of the other ones are fine. In the Los Angeles area I check the sales for 
Fry's Electronics or Costco and pick them up cheap. I saw 500gb/fw for $169 at 
Costco recently.


> As for drive recommendations, backing up is probably the least
> demanding task a drive will encounter. Also, when I was shopping for
> an audio drive (so speed was a concern), I found nothing but mixed
> messages on every drive I considered. There doesn't seem to be a
> clear winner in the drive world. I say get a really big drive.
> 




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by far one of the most robust drives is made by g-tech...they use hitacchi drives 
they are not cheap but they are worth iit

howard

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                 I have owned a bunch of them and they are all usually good. The one exception 
 was one by AccomData. I put my entire itunes collection on it, and then it 
 crashed hard - two weeks old. then they sent me a knew one, and it fails Apple's 
 Disk Utility procedures over and over. So I have a $100 paperweight. But most 
 of the other ones are fine. In the Los Angeles area I check the sales for 
 Fry's Electronics or Costco and pick them up cheap. I saw 500gb/fw for $169 at 
 Costco recently.
 
 > As for drive recommendations, backing up is probably the least
 > demanding task a drive will encounter. Also, when I was shopping for
 > an audio drive (so speed was a concern), I found nothing but mixed
 > messages on every drive I considered. There doesn't seem to be a
 > clear winner in the drive world. I say get a really big drive.
 > 
 
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--- GAmoore@... wrote:
> I never use Logic's project manager but maybe I
> should. 

I agree you should at least try it. I find it
indispensable.
JP

I use Logic project manager and have a nightly incremental back-up  
scheduled in Apple's back up program that includes the folder with  
all current projects as well as the plug-in folder in library. So all  
plug in settings including non-logic plug-n settings, video,  
instruments and sample associated with the project get backed up  
every night. I also make DVD back ups once a week (or more often  
depending on the project) of all current projects.
I have two back ups of everything at all times.
Not using anything fancy. 6, 400 Firewire, 250 GB 7200 RPM drives.  
All different brands that I purchased at other world computing.


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Tristan - I use the MyBOOK by Western Digital. The good thing about it 
is that you can configure the Raid setting on it through a little 
software utility that comes with it. If you keep it 0 then the whole 
drive is utilized where you can just drag n drop your stuff to backup. 
If you change it to 1, then it utilizes half of the drive space and 
automatically mirrors to the other half. Taken that it has two physical 
drives in it, if one fails, you always have an exact mirror of it on 
the other one, no matter which one that is. This makes it great for 
using as main data drive for your projects etc...

iraklis


--- In Logic_Cafe@yahoogroups.com, "tristanjove" <tristanjove@...> 
wrote:

>
> Hi,
> I'm looking for a secure backup solution to save my precious data. At 
> the moment I backup each day's work on a CD, but can I backup onto 
> another hard-drive.
> If so, is it best to use an external hard drive, or add another into 
> one of the internal slots inside my Mac Pro.
> And can someone recommend the best make of hard-drive to buy.
> Thanks,
> Tristan.
>