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Best Apple Loops editor

Best Apple Loops editor

2008-03-03 by Gregory Anderson

OK, I'm not getting any love on my questions to this list as of late,  
but I shall doggedly push forth:

I am FINALLY coming around to the use of apple loops for some of my  
compositions, and would like to take some of the massive number of  
samples/loops I have acquired but never listened to and convert them  
to Apple Loops, complete with loop points and metadata.    The Apple  
Loops Utility seems kind of limited, and I've always done all my  
sound editing in Logic, so I'm looking at a purchase here.  The only  
two programs that I see on the web are Iced Audio's AudioFinder and  
Audiofile Engineering's Loop Editor.  Are those what people are  
using?  Does anyone have a preference?  Is there some other user- 
friendly option that I am missing?  Any input would be appreciated.

Thanks,

Gregory

Re: [Logic_Cafe] Best Apple Loops editor

2008-03-03 by GAmoore@aol.com

maybe there is plenty of love to go around but not too many answers.



i think your best bet is using Logic itself. All you have to do AFAIK is put the loops in Logic and bounce down to get the internal markers.




I have IcedAudio too - just to use for quick rendering of plugs and mayhem - but not sure if it makes real Apple loops.
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OK, I'm not getting any love on my questions to this list as of late,  

but I shall doggedly push forth:



I am FINALLY coming around to the use of apple loops for some of my  

compositions, and would like to take some of the massive number of  

samples/loops I have acquired but never listened to and convert them  

to Apple Loops, complete with loop points and metadata.    The Apple  

Loops Utility seems kind of limited, and I've always done all my  

sound editing in Logic, so I'm looking at a purchase here.  The only  

two programs that I see on the web are Iced Audio's AudioFinder and  

Audiofile Engineering's Loop Editor.  Are those what people are  

using?  Does anyone have a preference?  Is there some other user- 

friendly option that I am missing?  Any input would be appreciated.



Thanks,



Gregory



    
  

    
    

















 






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Re: [Logic_Cafe] Best Apple Loops editor

2008-03-04 by Paul Najar

On 04/03/2008, at 10:38 AM, GAmoore@... wrote:

> i think your best bet is using Logic itself. All you have to do  
> AFAIK is put the loops in Logic and bounce down to get the internal  
> markers.

This technique is not the same as making an apple loop. The markers  
are not added as such by bouncing. The resultant audio is simply  
"Tagged" as being a certain tempo and all subsequent realtime  
calculations are based on this tempo.

And directed to the original poster, a real Apple Loop (AL) has beat  
markers every 8th or 16th note and offers the ability to "regroove"  
the audio if desired based on where each marker is placed.

The Apple Loop Utility is as good as it gets for making Apple Loops.  
There is no other format like Recycle or Acid that has ANY compatible  
metadata or tagging of any kind that is readable by the ALU or any AL  
compatible host - thus, looking for a program to read existing non AL  
data is irrelavent. That's it. If you have large recycle libraries I  
suggest you keep working with them that way using Logic's EXS 24. Or  
if you want to get AL features that Recycle doesn't offer then simply  
convert to AL format when required.

The ALU does very good batch conversion BTW.

For Acid or other "true Elastic Audio" formats you have no choice but  
to convert to AL's IF you want to work in LA format.

Kind regards


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Paul Najar
Jaminajar Music Production
www.jaminajar.com




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