Apple Logic Pro /LogicExpress Discussion

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http://www.appleinsider.com/article.php?id=695

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>http://www.appleinsider.com/article.php?id=695


Gawd. These people need to get a life. They've already said it's 
coming out this year.

Will our software run on it? That's the important question.
-- 

Nick Batzdorf
818/905-9101, cell 590-9101, fax 905-5434

On Jan 7, 2005, at 5:16 PM, Nick Batzdorf wrote:

> Will our software run on it? That's the important question.
> -- 
>

Actually what Im concerned about, is my hardware going to run on it 
hehehe.
I fear my good old G4/800 quicksilver maybe nearing the end of its 
lifeline..
At least as far as the stock config is concerned.. Ive already read 
that Tiger requires a 64MB graphics card, which Im not about to go drop 
$2-300 just to get a newer ATI 9000 or 8500. Whether that was true or 
not guess we wont know for a bit longer..

Chris Coccia
http://www.descentrecords.com

--- Nick Batzdorf <recording@...> wrote:

> Will our software run on it? That's the important
question.


I've been thinking about spending some of my weekend
setting up an external boot drive and installing my
ADC Tiger seed on it.  I'll let you know how logic
handles once I've got things working (or not).

--sam
 



		
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--- Nick Batzdorf <recording@...> wrote:

>  > Will our software run on it? That's the important
>question.

From: Samuel Gendler <logicusers@...>

>I've been thinking about spending some of my weekend
>setting up an external boot drive and installing my
>ADC Tiger seed on it.  I'll let you know how logic
>handles once I've got things working (or not).

I should rephrase my important question: Will our software be adapted 
to take advantage of 64-bit memory addressing?

The bells and whistles - and the fact that I don't remember any of 
the upcoming features means that they must be bells and whistles 
rather than must-haves - don't have me waiting with bated breath. 
Being able to load an entire orchestral template on one machine does.
-- 

Nick Batzdorf
818/905-9101, cell 590-9101, fax 905-5434

--- Nick Batzdorf <recording@...> wrote:

> I should rephrase my important question: Will our
software be adapted 
> to take advantage of 64-bit memory addressing?

> The bells and whistles - and the fact that I don't
remember any of 
> the upcoming features means that they must be bells
and whistles 
> rather than must-haves - don't have me waiting with
bated breath. 
> Being able to load an entire orchestral template on
one machine does.

Looking at the developer docs, I'd say no, at least
not initially.  While the Tiger core is 64 bit aware,
many of the apple-provided libraries intended for use
by developers are not yet 64 bit, meaning that any app
which uses them also must remain 32 bit.  Most notable
are the interface libraries.  Basically, any 64 bit
application with a gui must either include a
completely custom gui with no quartz or cocoa
components, or else they must break their gui into a
separate application and then communicate gui inputs
to another, headless, 64-bit application via some form
of interprocess communication.  Much of the logic gui
does appear to be totally custom, but dialogs and
preference panes and such look to be cocoa.  Short of
rebuilding all of those components, or breaking them
out into separate apps, logic is going to stay 32 bit
until apple gets their act together and rebuilds all
their libraries for Tiger.  

The only apps that will take adavantage of 64 bit
addressing initially will be 'server' apps which run
entirely in the background and communicate with a user
via config files and such.  It will be useful for 3d
renderers, data visualization, databases, things of
that nature.  Once apple finishes the 64 bit
transition (hopefully in a tiger point release, not OS
XI), everything else will be able to take advantage.

--sam




		
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--- Nick Batzdorf <recording@...> wrote:

>  > I should rephrase my important question: Will our
>software be adapted
>  > to take advantage of 64-bit memory addressing?

From: Samuel Gendler <logicusers@...>

>Looking at the developer docs, I'd say no, at least
>not initially.

Then who cares when it comes out.
-- 

Nick Batzdorf
818/905-9101, cell 590-9101, fax 905-5434