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NI Kompakt

2005-01-11 by Andrew Ingkavet

Hi,
I just got the NI Kompakt player with my EWQL Symphonic Orch Gold 
package.

I'm a little confused on this working paradigm.  There's the ability to 
bring up to 8 instruments within one multiplayer.
What's the intended purpose?
Layering?
Saving all in one Multi instrument so that you can copy and paste in 
the Audio Config window?
I feel lost here.

It seems way cool though probably much more than I'll ever use - also 
Intakt and Kontakt too.

thanks much
andrew



Andrew Ingkavet
Executive Producer / Composer
300 MONKS - VISIONARY MUSIC
web:  http://300monks.com
email:  info@...
telephone:  917-449-7805

"---Deep in the forests of Brooklyn, 300 monks live,
work and pray creating exquisite handcrafted soundtracks.---"

RE: [Logic_Cafe] NI Kompakt

2005-01-11 by Kamm Schreiner

I think you can assign each instrument to a different channel or, I think,
to the same channel if that's what you want. I just got it recently and have
only setup two instruments and each is used by a different MIDI channel.
VERY nice sounding strings. I love it so far other than the fact it takes so
much memory.

Kamm 
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Andrew Ingkavet [mailto:andrew@...] 
> Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2005 2:59 PM
> To: Logic_Cafe@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [Logic_Cafe] NI Kompakt
> 
> Hi,
> I just got the NI Kompakt player with my EWQL Symphonic Orch 
> Gold package. 
> 
> I'm a little confused on this working paradigm. There's the 
> ability to bring up to 8 instruments within one multiplayer. 
> What's the intended purpose? 
> Layering? 
> Saving all in one Multi instrument so that you can copy and 
> paste in the Audio Config window?
> I feel lost here.
> 
> It seems way cool though probably much more than I'll ever 
> use - also Intakt and Kontakt too. 
> 
> thanks much
> andrew

Re: NI Kompakt

2005-01-12 by Pete Thomas

--- In Logic_Cafe@yahoogroups.com, Andrew Ingkavet <andrew@3...> wrote:
> Hi,
> I just got the NI Kompakt player with my EWQL Symphonic Orch Gold 
> package.
> 
> I'm a little confused on this working paradigm.  There's the ability to 
> bring up to 8 instruments within one multiplayer.
> What's the intended purpose?
> Layering?

Yes. 

The manual suggests in the platinum version you can layer the
different mic position samples and do a submix within the Kompakt multi.

I also find it handy for scores, e.g you can have arco violins on
channel 1, pizz on channel 2. That way both pizz and arco appear on
the same part, but sound with the right sample as you asign channel;s.
Yes I know you could also do this by cabling a MIDI instrument to two
separate audio instances (that's what I do with EXS for instance) but
the multi thing is a bit simpler.

Same applies to "doubling" and all different kinds of samples with
different articulations.

-- 
Pete Thomas
www.petethomas.co.uk
- Free Logic Icons, Environments and EXS Instruments

Re: [Logic_Cafe] Re: NI Kompakt

2005-01-12 by GAmoore@aol.com


In a message dated 1/12/05 7:40:49 AM, logi@... writes:


you can have arco violins on
channel 1, pizz on channel 2. That way both pizz and arco appear on
the same part, but sound with the right sample as you asign channel;s.


So you have a violin line in a single sequence, and then go in and choose individual notes to change their midi channel? This is a simple thing which confuses me a bit becuase a midi track or virtual instrument track has a single midi channel set in the parameters, but if you look in the event list there is a channel setting for each note/event.

Re: [Logic_Cafe] Re: NI Kompakt

2005-01-12 by beyaRecords

On 12 Jan 2005, at 22:17, GAmoore@... wrote:

>
>  So you have a violin line in a single sequence, and then go in and 
> choose individual notes to change their midi channel?


have a look at this chaps:

	www.synful.com

As you were discussing stringed instruments and the like....

Re: NI Kompakt

2005-01-14 by Pete Thomas

--- In Logic_Cafe@yahoogroups.com, GAmoore@a... wrote:
> 
> In a message dated 1/12/05 7:40:49 AM, logi@p... writes:
> 
> 
> > you can have arco violins on
> > channel 1, pizz on channel 2. That way both pizz and arco appear on
> > the same part, but sound with the right sample as you asign channel;s.
> > 
> 
> So you have a violin line in a single sequence, and then go in and
choose 
> individual notes to change their midi channel? This is a simple
thing which 
> confuses me a bit becuase a midi track or virtual instrument track
has a single 
> midi channel set in the parameters, but if you look in the event
list there is a 
> channel setting for each note/event.

Yes, the MIDI channel for the region/sequence overrides the MIDI
channel attached to each note, (unless the parameter for the channels
is set to "all" in which case the channel of the individial notes will
apply as the MIDi channel sent for example to external modules.

As far as I am concerned the main use for the notes' channel is for
score display purposes, eg polyphonic parts which show several
different lines displayed on the score in order to get authentic
polyphonic music manuscripts.

I would rarely go in and edit individual notes. In the case of
arco/pizz it is not so common to have just one note of pizz among all
arco, more likely there are sections of each with lots of notes. I
either decide in advance and set the default so that the notes I enter
into the score have the correct channel, or else "rubber band" a
selection of a notes that I want pizz and change the channel in the
score parameter box.

For polyphonic parts there's a handy line splitter tool (can't
remember it's actual name) which you can use to draw a wiggly line
over or under notes which automatically assigns the notes above/below
that line to whichever polyphonic part and its associated MIDI channel
you have preselected. very neat.

-- 
Pete Thomas
www.petethomas.co.uk
- Free Logic Icons, Environments and EXS Instruments

Re: [Logic_Cafe] Re: NI Kompakt

2005-01-14 by Andrew Ingkavet

Thanks a lot Pete and everyone on this thread!

andrew ingkavet

Andrew Ingkavet
Executive Producer / Composer
300 MONKS - VISIONARY MUSIC
web:  http://300monks.com
email:  info@...
telephone:  917-449-7805

"---Deep in the forests of Brooklyn, 300 monks live,
work and pray creating exquisite handcrafted soundtracks.---"

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