Apple Logic Pro /LogicExpress Discussion

Hey, all,
	I finally sprung for an upgrade to version 8 from Logic pro 6.5  
recently. (Bought it at a discount from Amazon the day Apple announced  
Vers. 9 - I have a G5, and they proclaimed 9 to be intel-only, so I  
figured now or never, as a new computer was out of the question for 2  
or 3 years)

Anyway, I'm very happy with it, but have noticed a problem with third- 
party plug-ins. I had two old plug-ins that failed the new validation  
that I like very much -- Ambience and Digitalfishphone's Blockfish. I  
tracked down the newer versions of both, & installed them in ~/Library/ 
Audio/Plug-ins/Components but they didn't show up in the plugin pop-up  
in audio channel strips. Opening an old Logic 6.5 song in 8 that used  
them still gave me the "failed validation" message, and they would  
have the diagonal black line through them.

Then, I converted a Garage Band song that used them to a Logic song,  
and lo and behold, there they were, no probs and showed up in the pop- 
up menu. Yay, I thought. However, now, when I create a new song,  
they're still not showing up in an audio channel strip in the plug-ins  
pop up menu. HOWEVER, and here's the weird part, they ARE showing up  
in the plug-in menu of a bus channel strip. The workaround I've found  
for now is to assign one to a bus, then option+drag it to an audio  
channel strip - that works.

Still. Weird, huh? Anybody have similar experiences?

Also, a second question -- I'm sure you all have opinions on  
compressors -- what's a good option here? Logic's built-in compressors  
are giving me audible distortion well below -0db especially on guitar  
tracks. (miced amplifiers -- generally an SM 57) I need something  
affordable, and don't have any hardware expansion options at the  
moment, so I'm looking specifically for audio units. Vintage emulators  
would be preferred, as I'm mostly mixing live bands. Is there a good  
DBX 160 emulator out there?

Thanks!
Chris

Did you open the AU Manager and have it re-examine your audio unit plug 
ins? Its sort of a separate program but it only runs from within Logic 
- like the key command window.

As for compressors, there are dozens of them. There are software 
companies which essentially are founded on building compressors and eq 
software - such as URS, Sonalkysis, etc - however they are often quite 
expensive. However I would take note of these :

PSP just released a new one called OldTimer which is only $99.
http://www.pspaudioware.com/

Fabfilter has a cool one too which is not too much.
http://www.fabfilter.com/products/pro-c.php

Also Izotope and Wavearts have some channel strip plugs which might be 
useful.

If you going to get into serious money, you should get a UAudio card - 
they have the best emulations.

Oops, replied to this a few days ago, but sent it to the "no reply"  
address. anyway,

Thanks --

Yeah, I tried re-scanning them, and they "successfully passed  
validation," but still only show up in bus channel strips. Not too big  
a deal, just odd. Is there a preference file that I could delete that  
would start the entire validation process over again?

I'm trying out the demo of OldTimer right now, and it seems to be  
doing the trick -- no crackling on guitar parts, anyway. It would be  
nice if it was a little more "under the hood," but that's not a bad  
price. I wish I could afford a UAudio card right now, but maybe next  
spring. One has been floating around on the wish list for a while, but  
as a hobbyist with kids and a day job, it just can't see to float to  
the top of that list. :-)


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>    Posted by: "GAmoore@..." GAmoore@... gregory_a_moore
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> Did you open the AU Manager and have it re-examine your audio unit  
> plug
> ins? Its sort of a separate program but it only runs from within Logic
> - like the key command window.
>
> As for compressors, there are dozens of them. There are software
> companies which essentially are founded on building compressors and eq
> software - such as URS, Sonalkysis, etc - however they are often quite
> expensive. However I would take note of these :
>
> PSP just released a new one called OldTimer which is only $99.
> http://www.pspaudioware.com/



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