Apple Logic Pro /LogicExpress Discussion

I'm having problems using Akoustik with Logic 8.  Logic is super stable on all my songs unless I have Akoustik instantiated.  Then, Logic crashes about 20% of the time, and if it doesn't crash, when I quit, it doesn't fully quit.  The windows go away, and Logic disappears from the menu bar, but is still showing as launched in the Dock, so I have to quit, then force quit to get it completely gone.  Does anyone else have these problems?

NI seems to have discontinued Akoustik as a standalone application (vs. bundled; not vs. plugin), so it seems the version I have (1.1.3.001) is the latest.  I'm not really interested in upgrading Logic to v.9, just yet.

Thanks for any advice.

Gregory

On Jul 16, 2011, at 11:45 AM, Gregory wrote:

> I'm having problems using Akoustik with Logic 8.  Logic is super stable on all my songs unless I have Akoustik instantiated.  Then, Logic crashes about 20% of the time, and if it doesn't crash, when I quit, it doesn't fully quit.  The windows go away, and Logic disappears from the menu bar, but is still showing as launched in the Dock, so I have to quit, then force quit to get it completely gone.  Does anyone else have these problems?
> 
> NI seems to have discontinued Akoustik as a standalone application (vs. bundled; not vs. plugin), so it seems the version I have (1.1.3.001) is the latest.  I'm not really interested in upgrading Logic to v.9, just yet.
> 
> Thanks for any advice.
> 
> Gregory
> 

Hi Gregory,
Saw this too with my older rig.
I think its Akoustik thats being the issue.
NI has discontinued Akoustik as we know it, but has melded it into Kontakt 4. All the samples, patches and features are there inside of Kontakt.
See if you can get an upgrade to it or if downloading the Kontakt 4 player, and pointing its sample database to the location of the Akoustik samples are works for you.
Good Luck
Ciao
Gio

I ran into the same thing with a variety of NI instruments from that era, including Akoustik. The solution on offer from NI was to simply reinstall Akoustik. This worked well and I only had to do it once.

I've been using Logic for quite a while.  Probably not as long as many 
of you, but I think I started with version 4.  However, for a little 
while now, I've been feeling like I haven't been getting the most out of 
Logic -- both due to just carrying forward old skills without updating 
and due to old skills not often used getting lost in the shuffle.  Also, 
I just (finally) upgraded to Logic Pro 9.  I think it's time I settled 
down for a complete ground-up revamp.  I've particularly enjoyed the few 
DVD tutorials that Native Instruments put out for, for example, Kontakt 
2 (I wish they'd update it), and I find that I'm more likely to go 
through something like that than to slog through a thick book.

I've been considering a couple of avenues, but they're just the ones 
I've coincidentally seen advertised.  Lynda.com has a couple of videos.  
"Logic Pro 9 Essential Training" is 5.5 hours, and is rated a level 1 
out of 3 on their skills curve.  I'm sure it's a good place to start, 
but I worry it won't be anywhere near deep enough.  "Logic Pro 9 New 
Features" is 1.5 hours and is level 2.  It's probably useful.  The site 
had a $25/mo subscription rate, or $37.50/mo if you want exercise files 
to do the exercises. However, even though the price is right, if the 
videos aren't good it's a waste of time, and I don't see that they have 
any further higher-level videos for Logic Pro.

The other avenue I've been looking at are the Ask Video videos about 
Logic 9 Pro.  They seem to have three DVDs, just called Level 1, Level 2 
and Level 2.  They cost $39.99 each, or there's a bundle of all three 
for $109.95.  (That's the pricing at musicstudiodirect.com -- if you 
know of a better price, that would be cool.)  They claim to have (for 
the three-pack), over 12 hours of video across 134 separate videos.  So 
it's much more expensive than lynda.com, especially since I'd likely not 
need more than a single month there, but it seems like it might go much 
further.

I'm wondering if anybody has any experience and can give any feedback 
about either of these or if anybody has another favourite that they'd 
like to recommend.

You might check this one out also:

https://www.macprovideo.com/tutorial/logic9101

Yes I like the MacProVideo tutorials.
They are a but more expensive but I find them good.. I have quite a few I have purchased. 
I have bought various videos on the Logic "tools" and Interments  that they offer
I also subscribe to the Tips N Trick series as there are some great  ideas and concepts in those too.

BTW>> I also have their Melodyne and Protools videos'  etc .. 

So you see I am a bit of an MacProVideo fan..  That said they are not the cheapest on the net but I am happy to pay for quality tutorials.

Steve


On 19/07/2011, at 7:02 AM, Jeff Shirkey wrote:

> You might check this one out also:
> 
> https://www.macprovideo.com/tutorial/logic9101
> 
> 



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I also use www.macprovideo.com
 
Another good website with tutorials is www.groove3.com.
 
Each of the sites have an option to do a monthly subscription of $25.00 USD that is charged to a credit card or debit card. This will give you access to all the tutorials that are available (the even have some tutorials on NI stuff). You can cancel the subscription at any time and it might be a cheaper route than purchasing each video. Hope this helpls.

From: Irfon-Kim Ahmad <irfon@...>
To: Logic_Cafe@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, July 18, 2011 1:48 PM
Subject: [Logic_Cafe] Training: Opinions?


  
I've been using Logic for quite a while. Probably not as long as many 
of you, but I think I started with version 4. However, for a little 
while now, I've been feeling like I haven't been getting the most out of 
Logic -- both due to just carrying forward old skills without updating 
and due to old skills not often used getting lost in the shuffle. Also, 
I just (finally) upgraded to Logic Pro 9. I think it's time I settled 
down for a complete ground-up revamp. I've particularly enjoyed the few 
DVD tutorials that Native Instruments put out for, for example, Kontakt 
2 (I wish they'd update it), and I find that I'm more likely to go 
through something like that than to slog through a thick book.

I've been considering a couple of avenues, but they're just the ones 
I've coincidentally seen advertised. Lynda.com has a couple of videos. 
"Logic Pro 9 Essential Training" is 5.5 hours, and is rated a level 1 
out of 3 on their skills curve. I'm sure it's a good place to start, 
but I worry it won't be anywhere near deep enough. "Logic Pro 9 New 
Features" is 1.5 hours and is level 2. It's probably useful. The site 
had a $25/mo subscription rate, or $37.50/mo if you want exercise files 
to do the exercises. However, even though the price is right, if the 
videos aren't good it's a waste of time, and I don't see that they have 
any further higher-level videos for Logic Pro.

The other avenue I've been looking at are the Ask Video videos about 
Logic 9 Pro. They seem to have three DVDs, just called Level 1, Level 2 
and Level 2. They cost $39.99 each, or there's a bundle of all three 
for $109.95. (That's the pricing at musicstudiodirect.com -- if you 
know of a better price, that would be cool.) They claim to have (for 
the three-pack), over 12 hours of video across 134 separate videos. So 
it's much more expensive than lynda.com, especially since I'd likely not 
need more than a single month there, but it seems like it might go much 
further.

I'm wondering if anybody has any experience and can give any feedback 
about either of these or if anybody has another favourite that they'd 
like to recommend.



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>
> I'm wondering if anybody has any experience and can give any feedback
> about either of these or if anybody has another favourite that they'd
> like to recommend.
>

This is the best free site I have come across. Otherwise, buy the  
monthly magazines. They all have one article on Logic each month and  
as you don't get to choose the topic yourself, you can sometimes find  
yourself learning about things that otherwise you would simply overlook

http://audio.tutsplus.com/

Andy B

Andy,

I have used the AskVideo titles to learn Reason, but don't have experience with the Logic DVDs they have.   I'm sure they're good though.

I would also like to put the VTC (virtual training center) site out there as an option.  Sam McGuire is a friend and colleague of mine at The University of Colorado Denver and he does a great job with his video tutorials for VTC.   His chapters on Logic 9 are no exception.  

http://www.vtc.com/products/Apple-Logic-Pro-9-Tutorials.htm

Best,

Pete

--- In Logic_Cafe@yahoogroups.com, Andy Brook <bbgrove@...> wrote:

>
> >
> > I'm wondering if anybody has any experience and can give any feedback
> > about either of these or if anybody has another favourite that they'd
> > like to recommend.
> >
> 
> This is the best free site I have come across. Otherwise, buy the  
> monthly magazines. They all have one article on Logic each month and  
> as you don't get to choose the topic yourself, you can sometimes find  
> yourself learning about things that otherwise you would simply overlook
> 
> http://audio.tutsplus.com/
> 
> Andy B
>

You know, if you know someone who knows Logic and depending upon your
situation, it's worth it to pay someone to just show you some of these
things.  It's faster, it's direct, it's hands on, it's aimed toward your
specific needs---that's how I learned Vision years ago and that's what got
me started on Logic.  Once I had the basics, then reading the manual was
easy

From: Logic_Cafe@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Logic_Cafe@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Irfon-Kim Ahmad
Sent: Monday, July 18, 2011 11:48 AM
To: Logic_Cafe@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Logic_Cafe] Training: Opinions?

 

  

I've been using Logic for quite a while. Probably not as long as many 
of you, but I think I started with version 4. However, for a little 
while now, I've been feeling like I haven't been getting the most out of 
Logic -- both due to just carrying forward old skills without updating 
and due to old skills not often used getting lost in the shuffle. Also, 
I just (finally) upgraded to Logic Pro 9. I think it's time I settled 
down for a complete ground-up revamp. I've particularly enjoyed the few 
DVD tutorials that Native Instruments put out for, for example, Kontakt 
2 (I wish they'd update it), and I find that I'm more likely to go 
through something like that than to slog through a thick book.

I've been considering a couple of avenues, but they're just the ones 
I've coincidentally seen advertised. Lynda.com has a couple of videos. 
"Logic Pro 9 Essential Training" is 5.5 hours, and is rated a level 1 
out of 3 on their skills curve. I'm sure it's a good place to start, 
but I worry it won't be anywhere near deep enough. "Logic Pro 9 New 
Features" is 1.5 hours and is level 2. It's probably useful. The site 
had a $25/mo subscription rate, or $37.50/mo if you want exercise files 
to do the exercises. However, even though the price is right, if the 
videos aren't good it's a waste of time, and I don't see that they have 
any further higher-level videos for Logic Pro.

The other avenue I've been looking at are the Ask Video videos about 
Logic 9 Pro. They seem to have three DVDs, just called Level 1, Level 2 
and Level 2. They cost $39.99 each, or there's a bundle of all three 
for $109.95. (That's the pricing at musicstudiodirect.com -- if you 
know of a better price, that would be cool.) They claim to have (for 
the three-pack), over 12 hours of video across 134 separate videos. So 
it's much more expensive than lynda.com, especially since I'd likely not 
need more than a single month there, but it seems like it might go much 
further.

I'm wondering if anybody has any experience and can give any feedback 
about either of these or if anybody has another favourite that they'd 
like to recommend.





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