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soundiver for soft synths

2005-01-28 by GAmoore@aol.com

I wonder if Soundiver could be adapted for virtual instruments. It would be really convenient to have a single user interface to store patches on both hardware and soft synths. It seems every different manufacturer has a different system and stores their patches in a different location.

Re: [Logic_Cafe] soundiver for soft synths

2005-01-28 by Eddie Sullivan

This is the opposite of what you want to do, but it may be just as 
convienient, http://www.squest.com/ basically an editor librarian where 
the midi instruments come up as virtual instruments in the host...


Eddie
IMS


On Friday, January 28, 2005, at 08:48 AM, GAmoore@... wrote:

> I wonder if Soundiver could be adapted for virtual instruments. It 
> would be really convenient to have a single user interface to store 
> patches on both hardware and soft synths. It seems every different 
> manufacturer has a different system and stores their patches in a 
> different location.
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RE: [Logic_Cafe] soundiver for soft synths

2005-01-28 by Kamm Schreiner

> This is the opposite of what you want to do, but it may be 
> just as convienient, http://www.squest.com/ basically an 
> editor librarian where the midi instruments come up as 
> virtual instruments in the host...

Eddie,

This looks extremely interesting to me, but does it work with Logic? I can't
find a list of applications that are supported. Only Cubase is mentioned in
the literature I read.

Kamm

Re: [Logic_Cafe] soundiver for soft synths

2005-01-28 by Chris Coccia

Kamm Schreiner wrote:

> This looks extremely interesting to me, but does it work with Logic? I can't
> find a list of applications that are supported. Only Cubase is mentioned in
> the literature I read.
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> Kamm
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I believe the plugin is VST only. The company, or at least a few reps 
from it, sit and spam members of the Sound Diver group trying to snag 
some sales whenever someone complains about the lack of Sound Diver 
communication (really bad business but decided to check it out 
anyways).. I used to own Midi Quest years ago when I was working on a 
PC, it was pretty damn handy, until I found Sound Diver which blew it 
away. Now we can only hope it keeps blowing it away and isnt dead hehe.


-- 
Chris

http://www.descentrecords.com

RE: [Logic_Cafe] soundiver for soft synths

2005-01-28 by Kamm Schreiner

> I believe the plugin is VST only. The company, or at least a 
> few reps from it, sit and spam members of the Sound Diver 
> group trying to snag some sales whenever someone complains 
> about the lack of Sound Diver communication (really bad 
> business but decided to check it out anyways).. I used to own 
> Midi Quest years ago when I was working on a PC, it was 
> pretty damn handy, until I found Sound Diver which blew it 
> away. Now we can only hope it keeps blowing it away and isnt 
> dead hehe.

Does SoundDiver actually integrate with Logic? In other words, can I call up
a patch using the same method I do now, with the only difference being that
SoundDiver puts up a menu that is more organized? That was the intriguing
part of Midi Quest. It apparently integrates with the host application.

Kamm

Re: [Logic_Cafe] soundiver for soft synths

2005-01-28 by Eddie Sullivan

On Friday, January 28, 2005, at 11:01 AM, Kamm Schreiner wrote:

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>> This is the opposite of what you want to do, but it may be
>> just as convienient, http://www.squest.com/ basically an
>> editor librarian where the midi instruments come up as
>> virtual instruments in the host...
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> Eddie,
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> This looks extremely interesting to me, but does it work with Logic? I 
> can't
> find a list of applications that are supported. Only Cubase is 
> mentioned in
> the literature I read.

The folks from SQ have gotten MidiQuestXL for the Mac to work with FX 
Expansion's VST-AU Wrapper. Native AU support is planned for the next 
release : )

Eddie
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Re: [Logic_Cafe] soundiver for soft synths

2005-01-28 by Chris Coccia

Kamm Schreiner wrote:

> Does SoundDiver actually integrate with Logic? In other words, can I call up
> a patch using the same method I do now, with the only difference being that
> SoundDiver puts up a menu that is more organized? That was the intriguing
> part of Midi Quest. It apparently integrates with the host application.
> 
> Kamm

Under OS9 Autolink still works just fine and Sound Diver just becomes 
part of Logic in a sense. Under OS X there was something about the way 
the OS works with memory that wont allow it to work like it used to.
FWIW - Sound Diver on OS X is still a beta, and hasnt been updated in 
quite some time. No ones even sure if its still being developed or not.
Shame cause it was a damn fine editor..


-- 
Chris

http://www.descentrecords.com

RE: [Logic_Cafe] soundiver for soft synths

2005-01-28 by Kamm Schreiner

Thanks to both Chris and Eddie,

I'm hoping SoundDiver will be worked into Logic as part of the package
rather than as an add on. Or at least something similar to SoundDiver. Until
then, once the native AU support is ready, I'll be giving Midi Quest a try.

Thanks again!

Kamm

Re: [Logic_Cafe] soundiver for soft synths

2005-01-28 by GAmoore@aol.com

The autolink feature linked Soundiver and Logic - and it used to be the only way to get the actual patch names from an external synth into logic. I didn't use that feature for years, but I think you only needed to run it once to import the names, save the logic file as an autoload, then you could run logic and have the patch names. So you might want to run it in system 9 if you have it.

If not, you could also try running the public beta, opening a bank, selecting all, and then open the logic patch window for the same synth (by clicking on track or one of the parameters), the pasting (or maybe pasting to a spreadsheet in the middle step). I am not sure if that will work or not.

I use Soundiver all the time - especially now that I went back to using more external synths - since I seem to get most crashes when using a lot of virtual instruments but not when using Midi - and I don't know what I would do without it managing so many patches.



Re: [Logic_Cafe] soundiver for soft synths

2005-01-28 by Chris Coccia

GAmoore@... wrote:

> If not, you could also try running the public beta, opening a bank, 
> selecting all, and then open the logic patch window for the same synth 
> (by clicking on track or one of the parameters), the pasting (or maybe 
> pasting to a spreadsheet in the middle step). I am not sure if that will 
> work or not.
> 
> I use Soundiver all the time - especially now that I went back to using 
> more external synths - since I seem to get most crashes when using a lot 
> of virtual instruments but not when using Midi - and I don't know what I 
> would do without it managing so many patches.
> 

The copy/paste method is pretty much it in OS X. I have all my 
individual banks saved as text files. You just have to grab em from SD, 
then paste em into the Environment objects..

Havent tried booting into OS 9 to set it up and save the Autoload that 
was a good idea..
Come to think of it I dont even think I have 9 on my machine anymore hehe.

I wanted to ask them about SD at NAMM but the Apple Booth was so damn 
crowded I couldnt find anyone that wasnt showing off Logic 7 or running 
a presentation to someone already to ask!

-- 
Chris

http://www.descentrecords.com

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