Marcos Maniacs

Hi Mark/Don et al.

I've now spoken to Rory, and I tought I ought to share what I've 
found out with you guys just in case any of it is useful!

The exhaust manifolds I have ARE identical! This is because they are 
the wrong ones! (they were for the Scimitar and may even be specific 
to that car, the ones that I need and you guys with the V6 have are 
from the Ford Zodiac and ARE both different! they were turned round 
from the original instalation to face forward instead of backwards.
Now I've also asked Rory about the tubular manifolds he can supply 
instead, these do not require any modification to the footwells as 
has been mentioned here in the past, this is only the case for the V8 
instalation in which case approx 1/2inch adjustment is required.

As for the engine mounts it would appear that on the V6 the mounting 
points on the chassis are both in the same position which is just 
behind the wishbone mounting point closed to the footwell. Does this 
make sense to you guys and could you please confirm this for me so I 
can move my right hand mounting.

My next question to Rory was regarding the use of my Ford Corsair 
2000E 4speed gearbox, Rory advised me (as many of you have mind), 
that I should definatley ditch this for either a 4 speed overdrive or 
a 5speed Granada box (as fitted to the last Granada's with the Essex 
engine). Can anyone enlighten me as to any suggest upgrade route they 
may have taken with this one?

What I have learned today has obviously put my ETD (estimated time to 
Drive ;) ) back some what, but I am sure I will bounch back!

Thanks for all your help guys even thoughyou thought I was mad 
earlier with the exhaust question - thankfully I now understand why 
you would have thought this :)

Cheers
Ashley
#5504

www.molyneuxs.com

 

--- In MarcosManiacs@y..., "a5h_pm" <ashley_molyneux@h...> wrote:
> Hi Mark/Don,
> 
> I can confirm that the engine does have the cast type headers, but 
I 
> as I am not close to the engine now I can not confirm (or deny!) 
what 
> is being said to me about them! I can however say that from my now 
> some what confused memory looking from above with the front of the 
> engine furthest away from me, the left header exits between 
cylinders 
> 5 and 6, and the right hand header exits between 1 and 2, so 
turning 
> the manifold through 180degrees would acheive the same on either 
> side?...... OK I've just drawn myself a diagram and I could be so 
> wrong that I am gong to shut up until I can verify whay I am 
saying! 
> Can you confirm that looking from above the engine the exhaust 
> headers both exit an imaginary line exactly perpendicular to the 
> chassis though? (ie for example not just at the centre of Cylinders 
2 
> & 5 which are off set)
> 
> Thanks for you help guys! (and for putting doubt even in my own 
mind 
> now!!)
> 
> My next problem to overcome is the engine mountings - I am speaking 
> to Rory at Marcos Heritage today so hopefully this will soon also 
be 
> cleared up!
> 
> Cheers
> 
> Ashley
> #5504
> 
> --- In MarcosManiacs@y..., "mark_saxby" <mark.saxby@n...> wrote:
> > That may depend on whether these are the original ones.
> > 
> > Ashley, are they tubular or cast? If cast, they're almost 
certainly 
> > as Don describes, but if tubular, they may be symmetrical to mate 
> to 
> > a specific exhaust system. I know that Capri GT (Ford ones) 
tubular 
> > manifolds are NOT symmetrical, btw, they mate up in the same way, 
> but 
> > are much bulkier than the cast ones and don't fit in the Marcos 
> > engine bay (not without much cutting, anyway, which I didn't do!)
> > 
> > Cheers.
> > 
> > Mark
> > 
> > --- In MarcosManiacs@y..., "mcaqmd" <donlattimer@p...> wrote:
> > > Ashley,
> > > 
> > > Take a good look at your headers.  They can't be identical.  If 
> you 
> > > remove one side and move it to the other side, the outlet will 
be 
> > > forward.  Think about it.  
> > > 
> > > I'll check my engine mounts tonight and let you know how mine's 
> set 
> > > up.
> > > 
> > > Don Lattimer
> > > #3m5759
> > > Willits, CA
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- In MarcosManiacs@y..., "a5h_pm" <ashley_molyneux@h...> 
wrote:
> > > > Hi again guys, stupid question time!
> > > > I am as you or may not know, converting my V4 car into a V6 
> car. 
> > > > This to me was a straight forward task! Anyway today finally 
> > after 
> > > > many years I finally managed to manually turn the V6 over by 
> > hand, 
> > > > it has been standing since 1985 so was a little bit 
difficult! 
> > > > (diesel left in th bores for a couple of weeks works wonders 
by 
> > > the 
> > > > way guys should you ever need to do the same). Anyway while 
> > > studying 
> > > > the engines side by side I noticed that the V4 mountings were 
> off 
> > > > set, yet the V6 mountings appear to be in the same place on 
the 
> > > > chassis on both sides. So question, those of you with the 
Ford 
> V6 
> > > > could you please confirm the position of the engine mounts 
both 
> > on 
> > > > the chassis and if possible which bolt holes are used on the 
> > > engine 
> > > > casting.
> > > > 
> > > > Next question relates to the exhaust manifolds. I've read 
that 
> to 
> > > > use the original V6 engine it was necessary to swop the 
> manifolds 
> > > > over, now this implies that both manifolds are different. The 
> > ones 
> > > > ont the engine I have (from a Scimtar GTE) are both identical 
> so 
> > > > swoping them over would have no effect! The actual position 
of 
> > the 
> > > > outlets is once again looking from above is symetrical and 
lies 
> > > > behind the engine moutings.
> > > > 
> > > > I am not sure if anyone on this group has actually caried out 
> the 
> > > V4 
> > > > to V6 swop if you have I would love to hear from you!
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Many thanks for all your help once again guys!
> > > > 
> > > > Marcos motoring days are at last getting closer for me!
> > > > 
> > > > Cheers
> > > > Ashley #5504
> > > > www.molyneuxs.com for latest progress!