Modular Synth Panels

Looks like someone's (on this list?) 2U CGS wave multiplier made the
display section at Front Panel Express:
http://www.frontpanelexpress.com/material/examples.htm

Jeff

I have one of Ken Stones PCBs and know of others how have been
recently building these into their MOTM / Oakley format systems.  I
find that my PCB is long and skinny compared to the Oakly / MOTM /
Blacet formats.

In fact, on the Wave Multiplier PCB I have, the 6 inch length, is too
long running up and down for even my wide 4 pot bracket.

So, anyhow here is my question....

I am thinking af making a new bracket.  Todd has asked me to make
these available.  It would be the same depth as my 3 pot and 4 pot
short brackets.  However, the back 2 1/2 inches of the bracket would
be at least 6 inches tall.  This would go behind any pots, switches,
or jacks on the front of the panels leaving almost 2 inches of space
for mounting stuff in front of the bracket.

Since Ken is not consistent with PCB hole placement, there would be
no PCB mouting holes.  But, the bracket PCB mouting space would be
large enough for any of his PCBs (the bigger ones that do not fit on
my normal brackets). And, they would of course conform to the normal
MOTM statdards.  This would be a 3 pot bracket.

Any interest in these brackets?
Larry Hendry


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Larry Hendry wrote:

>Since Ken is not consistent with PCB hole placement, there would be
>no PCB mouting holes.  But, the bracket PCB mouting space would be
>large enough for any of his PCBs (the bigger ones that do not fit on
>my normal brackets). And, they would of course conform to the normal
>MOTM statdards.  This would be a 3 pot bracket.

At least I am adopting some standards now :)  I'm doing my boards 6" tall,
and 1, 2 or 3" wide. Some of the older boards will be reworked to these
standards too. Why 6" x 1" increments? Because this is the standard used in
Serge boards, and I have a lot of Serge form-factor stuff here.

Ken
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Larry,
> I am thinking af making a new bracket.  Todd has asked me to make
> these available.  It would be the same depth as my 3 pot and 4 pot
> short brackets.  However, the back 2 1/2 inches of the bracket would
> be at least 6 inches tall.  This would go behind any pots, switches,
> or jacks on the front of the panels leaving almost 2 inches of space
> for mounting stuff in front of the bracket.
> 
A nice idea, and I'm sure some people could make good use of them.
However, to be honest (and Ken S. or others can disagreed with me), given
the 10 (about) CGS modules that I have currently mounted onto front
panels, I used Stooge pcb brackets on 2 modules (wave mult. & Steiner
filter).  The other modules (e.g., gated comparator, pulse div./logic,
dual asr) are (mostly) Switchcraft sockets, so the pot-based Stooge
brackets would have to be modified for securing to sockets.  I just custom
cut some pcb brackets (not nearly as nice as Stooges, but they are
functional).

> Since Ken is not consistent with PCB hole placement, there would be
> no PCB mouting holes.  But, the bracket PCB mouting space would be
> large enough for any of his PCBs (the bigger ones that do not fit on
> my normal brackets).

Note: I did use a small 4-pot Stooge bracket to mount the Steiner pcb by
orienting the narrow pcb from the corner to diagonal corner, and removing
the portion of the bracket containing the lowest pot hole.  Also room for
a CGS small dc mixer to mix frequency and input cv attenuation.

Just $.02, Jeff

Yes..definately be interested.
As Jeff mentioned,will any adjustments be needed for the modules that are pretty much socket based ? Like the ASR etc. 

Gary

Or just wire it up and let it hang ;)
A jack-based bracket would be very useful. I did all sorts of shameful 
punk-rock things behind the panel before Howard showed me his method. A 
dedicated bracket would be great, though. And your first idea, Larry, is 
also good.
Now I need one about 2 feet long for that darned Paia vocoder! :)

Scott




>From: Jeffrey Pontius <jpont@...>
>Reply-To: motmpanels@yahoogroups.com
>To: motmpanels@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: Re: [motmpanels] Any CGS bracket interest
>Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2003 07:46:35 -0500 (CDT)
>
>Larry,
> > I am thinking af making a new bracket.  Todd has asked me to make
> > these available.  It would be the same depth as my 3 pot and 4 pot
> > short brackets.  However, the back 2 1/2 inches of the bracket would
> > be at least 6 inches tall.  This would go behind any pots, switches,
> > or jacks on the front of the panels leaving almost 2 inches of space
> > for mounting stuff in front of the bracket.
> >
>A nice idea, and I'm sure some people could make good use of them.
>However, to be honest (and Ken S. or others can disagreed with me), given
>the 10 (about) CGS modules that I have currently mounted onto front
>panels, I used Stooge pcb brackets on 2 modules (wave mult. & Steiner
>filter).  The other modules (e.g., gated comparator, pulse div./logic,
>dual asr) are (mostly) Switchcraft sockets, so the pot-based Stooge
>brackets would have to be modified for securing to sockets.  I just custom
>cut some pcb brackets (not nearly as nice as Stooges, but they are
>functional).
>
> > Since Ken is not consistent with PCB hole placement, there would be
> > no PCB mouting holes.  But, the bracket PCB mouting space would be
> > large enough for any of his PCBs (the bigger ones that do not fit on
> > my normal brackets).
>
>Note: I did use a small 4-pot Stooge bracket to mount the Steiner pcb by
>orienting the narrow pcb from the corner to diagonal corner, and removing
>the portion of the bracket containing the lowest pot hole.  Also room for
>a CGS small dc mixer to mix frequency and input cv attenuation.
>
>Just $.02, Jeff
>


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I think it's a good Idea,  I have used your long brackets for 
mounting the Steiner and the Wave Multiplier boards,  with little 
problem at all.  But something that would be taller would be even 
better...

Howard


--- In motmpanels@yahoogroups.com, Larry Hendry 
<hendrysr@y...> wrote:
> I have one of Ken Stones PCBs and know of others how have 
been
> recently building these into their MOTM / Oakley format 
systems.  I
> find that my PCB is long and skinny compared to the Oakly / 
MOTM /
> Blacet formats.
> 
> In fact, on the Wave Multiplier PCB I have, the 6 inch length, is 
too
> long running up and down for even my wide 4 pot bracket.
> 
> So, anyhow here is my question....
> 
> I am thinking af making a new bracket.  Todd has asked me to 
make
> these available.  It would be the same depth as my 3 pot and 4 
pot
> short brackets.  However, the back 2 1/2 inches of the bracket 
would
> be at least 6 inches tall.  This would go behind any pots, 
switches,
> or jacks on the front of the panels leaving almost 2 inches of 
space
> for mounting stuff in front of the bracket.
> 
> Since Ken is not consistent with PCB hole placement, there 
would be
> no PCB mouting holes.  But, the bracket PCB mouting space 
would be
> large enough for any of his PCBs (the bigger ones that do not 
fit on
> my normal brackets). And, they would of course conform to the 
normal
> MOTM statdards.  This would be a 3 pot bracket.
> 
> Any interest in these brackets?
> Larry Hendry
> 
> 
> 
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OK.  Thanks to everyone that responded.  It is good to see that Ken
is adopting the 6" standard (see below).  But, my existing brackets
that are only 5 1/2 inches tall just don't quite fit the bill.  And,
I hear that some of you think jack mouting instead of pot mounting is
a good idea.

I have only one of Ken's PCBs (so far) so I am not totally tuned into
what to expect for front panel arrangements that can be used for jack
and/or pots to mount the brackets.

So, please give me your ideas for a bracket design.  Here is what I
can tell you that are most certain:

1. Pot and or jack spacing will conform to MOTM specs. That is the
whole concept behind the bracket form factor.

2.  I can put PCB mounting holes (see Ken's note below) to accomodate
1, 2 and 3" wide PCBs, assuming the hole placement from the edges is
consistent.  Those mounting some of the older PCBs would have to
drill their own holes if they did choose to use these brackets.

3. I am willing to use pot or jack mounting, or some comination there
of which might be generic enough to work for all PCBs.

So, please, those of you with more CGS experience than I (which is
almost everyone), tell me what we need.  I'll be happy to make
something.  I want to lean toward the new standard and not go any
deeper than a standard MOTM bracket (~ 4 3/8"). The smaller PCBs will
fit my 3 pot short bracket anyhow.

Larry

--- sasami@... wrote:
> At least I am adopting some standards now :)  I'm doing my boards
> 6" tall, and 1, 2 or 3" wide. Some of the older boards will be
> reworked to these standards too. Why 6" x 1" increments? Because
> this is the standard used in Serge boards, and I have a lot of
> Serge form-factor stuff here.
> Ken


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From: Larry Hendry <hendrysr@...>

>2.  I can put PCB mounting holes (see Ken's note below) to accomodate
>1, 2 and 3" wide PCBs, assuming the hole placement from the edges is
>consistent.  Those mounting some of the older PCBs would have to
>drill their own holes if they did choose to use these brackets.

The holes are 0.15" in from the edges (top, bottom and sides) of the board
in all of the standardised board sizes. The holes themselves are 3mm. The
wave multiplier is consistent with this spacing.

Ken

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