PLAN B analog blog

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kSuXA4jg2N8&fmt=18

After I tried this, I heard of others doing something similar, I
started thinking it would be nice if the contour was a continuous
sweepable, CVable control if there is a Mk.3 revision.  :)
and if there was a superfast env follower built in...drool...

Nice vid, thanks Don.  Pity it sparked yet another M10 dig on Matrix. 

If you have an M14, you can actually induce this feature you're after. Take the output of the M10 into one channel on both sides of the M14.  On one side, turn the input channel processing pot all the way CW
(positive).  On the other side, turn the processing pot fully CCW
(negative)  Come out of the  Sum Xfade jack and route that signal into
the M10's VC input.  Use a secondary external control voltage to
crossfade the M14 xfader and you're dong exactly what you want to
here.  Just make sure the M10's Contour switch is set to linear.  It
won't break anything if it isn't, it'll just not make this as effective.

hope this helps,

- P

 


--- In PLAN_B_analog_blog@yahoogroups.com, "dkimcg" <dkimcg@...> wrote:

>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kSuXA4jg2N8&fmt=18
> 
> After I tried this, I heard of others doing something similar, I
> started thinking it would be nice if the contour was a continuous
> sweepable, CVable control if there is a Mk.3 revision.  :)
> and if there was a superfast env follower built in...drool...
>

thanks Peter, I'll give that a try.  What I was wishing upon a star
for was a pot to control shape, from log through lin to exp.  I don't
know if it's even possible, but it could be useful.



On Tue, Dec 30, 2008 at 9:13 AM, (i think you can figure that out)
<peter@buzzclick-music.com> wrote:

> Nice vid, thanks Don. Pity it sparked yet another M10 dig on Matrix.
>
> If you have an M14, you can actually induce this feature you're after. Take
> the output of the M10 into one channel on both sides of the M14. On one
> side, turn the input channel processing pot all the way CW
> (positive). On the other side, turn the processing pot fully CCW
> (negative) Come out of the Sum Xfade jack and route that signal into
> the M10's VC input. Use a secondary external control voltage to
> crossfade the M14 xfader and you're dong exactly what you want to
> here. Just make sure the M10's Contour switch is set to linear. It
> won't break anything if it isn't, it'll just not make this as effective.
>
> hope this helps,
>
> - P
>
> --- In PLAN_B_analog_blog@yahoogroups.com, "dkimcg" <dkimcg@...> wrote:
>>
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kSuXA4jg2N8&fmt=18
>>
>> After I tried this, I heard of others doing something similar, I
>> started thinking it would be nice if the contour was a continuous
>> sweepable, CVable control if there is a Mk.3 revision. :)
>> and if there was a superfast env follower built in...drool...
>>
>
>

I've tried that... really fun, nice and intéresting!!

oh and about your comment on Matrix: 

"Imagine all of the music that would be out there if this is what 
people did with them instead of spending their studio hours bench 
testing!'"

that's my quote (almost) when replying to those internet complainers 
LOL :P

So speaking about the M10. I love it! I have a patch during my band
(www.myspace.com/ogenix)'s live performances that I use with M10. 
The part of the song is a downtempo/fat beat/metal thing with 
different electronic noises used in a rythmic manner. The live part 
on the modular consists of a sound source through a tyme sefari, a 
M13 and a lowpass filter. The sound is being split in two after the 
tyme sefari and goes in the 2 channels of the M13. One channel of 
the M13 is being opened by the manual gate of the M10, the other one 
by one of the env output, activated when switch is up, in lfo mode. 
The attack and decay are adjusted for it to produce a many fast 
short percussion sounds, as in glitch music or drum n bass.
The gate of the M10 also trigs the ext.trig of the M24, which sends 
stepped VC to the filter freq cv.
so only with tjose modules, I can have a quite varied live 
percussive gesture by playing the gate or lfo and changing some 
switches on the sound of thunder attached to the tyme sefary... yup 
M10 is a great module :)

so...

BONNE ANNÉE ET MES MEILLEURS VOEUX  POUR 2009/HAPPY NEW YEAR ALL THE 
BEST FOR 2009 y'all modular brothers and sisters!

g.



--- In PLAN_B_analog_blog@yahoogroups.com, "(i think you can figure 
that out)" <peter@...> wrote:
>
> Nice vid, thanks Don.  Pity it sparked yet another M10 dig on 
Matrix.
> 
> If you have an M14, you can actually induce this feature you're 
after. Take the output of the M10 into one channel on both sides of 
the M14.  On one side, turn the input channel processing pot all the 
way CW
> (positive).  On the other side, turn the processing pot fully CCW
> (negative)  Come out of the  Sum Xfade jack and route that signal 
into
> the M10's VC input.  Use a secondary external control voltage to
> crossfade the M14 xfader and you're dong exactly what you want to
> here.  Just make sure the M10's Contour switch is set to linear.  
It
> won't break anything if it isn't, it'll just not make this as 
effective.
> 
> hope this helps,
> 
> - P
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --- In PLAN_B_analog_blog@yahoogroups.com, "dkimcg" <dkimcg@> 
wrote:

> >
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kSuXA4jg2N8&fmt=18
> >
> > After I tried this, I heard of others doing something similar, I
> > started thinking it would be nice if the contour was a continuous
> > sweepable, CVable control if there is a Mk.3 revision.  :)
> > and if there was a superfast env follower built in...drool...
> >
>

Nope, it's a crappy webcam shooting a Hitachi Oscillocope (model
V-650F in case your interested for some reason).  I've thought about
the MFB "scope" but it's a bit pricey in comparison to a real scope
and I think I could get something similar with Max if I need.  I paid
$100 for mine in like new condition from an engineer that used to use
it for testing equipment.

On Tue, Dec 30, 2008 at 10:25 AM, Ryan Dean <ehdyn81@gmail.com> wrote:
> Nice video-was just wondering what it sounded like as an Osc.
>
> What's this big scope you're using? Is it the MFB thing?
> Thanks!
>

My recommendation for a scope is to hit te bay and pick up a Tektronix
465 or similar.  They're accurate, easy to get around/learn and cheap.
 You can pick one of those guys for $100 or less.

Funny story:

I had one about four years ago and the outer lens was scratched, so I
called Tek's tech group to see if I could order one.  Now mind you,
the 465 was the staple of the company for years.  

He guy didn't know what a 465 was, had never heard of it.

I thought I was on Candid Camera, Candid Phone or something.  

anyway, this is the beast (ebay search result):

http://shop.ebay.com/?_from=R40&_trksid=m38.l1313&_nkw=tek+465&_sacat=See-All-Categories





--- In PLAN_B_analog_blog@yahoogroups.com, "Ryan Dean" <ehdyn81@...>
wrote:
>
> Right, yeah-better off with a second-hand scope.I was just confused
because
> the display looked so big.
> 
> Speaking of scopes
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1eNjUgaB-g
> 
> Might try this in reaktor
> 
> 
> On Wed, Dec 31, 2008 at 4:13 PM, Don Kim <dkimcg@...> wrote:
> 
> >   Nope, it's a crappy webcam shooting a Hitachi Oscillocope (model
> > V-650F in case your interested for some reason). I've thought about
> > the MFB "scope" but it's a bit pricey in comparison to a real scope
> > and I think I could get something similar with Max if I need. I paid
> > $100 for mine in like new condition from an engineer that used to use
> > it for testing equipment.
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Dec 30, 2008 at 10:25 AM, Ryan Dean
<ehdyn81@...<ehdyn81%40gmail.com>>

> > wrote:
> > > Nice video-was just wondering what it sounded like as an Osc.
> > >
> > > What's this big scope you're using? Is it the MFB thing?
> > > Thanks!
> > >
> >
> >  
> >
>

you can usually find stuff like that at pawn shops, etc locally,  
too.   i'd go that route first.  i've found a bunch.  or classified  
papers, garage sales.....last 2 i traded a chunk of 'chocolate' for,  
and a pile of old records i was clearing out.

plus with pawn shops you can haggle the price down instead of bidding  
it up =)