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Re: [QuadtoneRIP] Re: Custom inkset - HP Vivera PK mixed with medium

2013-02-12 by Paul Roark

Ben, "reallybelgium" <albuben@...> wrote:

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> ...
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> The cartridges I wanted to use:
> http://www.octopus-office.de/en/shop/details/c/refillable-ink-cartridges-for-epson-t1571-t1579/p/fill-in-patronensatz-fuer-epson-stylus-photo-r-3000-mit-auto-reset-chips/
> Do you think they are ok?
>
I have no way to judge the quality of carts I have not used.  Empty,
re-fillable, auto-reset carts are the right product, however.


> I see 2 potential setups:
>
> Setup 1
> ---------
> The HP Vivera PK + optimiser option.
> Question: Only 6 slots are filled (1 PK and 5 greys), the other 3 I should
> fill with optimiser?! What about filling these with Eboni-6 (mixed in
> different dilutions) to add some warmth if necessary.
>
Carts must have something in them; they can't be empty/dry.  I only
suggested the gloss optimizer as a holder that has no color to it (easier
to later put in what you want).  The reason for this is that I think you
may want to be able to warm the print tone, but you will not know that
until after you try the HP pigments on your papers of choice.

Do not use Eboni-6 in the dilute positions.  They are for matte paper only.
 I believe your target papers are glossy.  The warm carbons I use and
recommend for glossy printing are the MIS K4 LK and LLK <
http://www.inksupply.com/arcink_k4.cfm>.  I don't know if
MIS/inksupply.comor Image Specialists have these inks available in
Europe.

For the MK position, MIS Eboni MK is what I use.  Again, I don't know about
the practicality of this in Europe.  If you want to print on matte paper,
you'll need some MK.  If you never want to print on matte paper, a clear
fluid might make sense in the MK position.



> Setup 2
> ---------
> I read about your 'EbHP 2013 Ink Arrangement'.
> Could this be a potential setup for the Epson R3000?
> In this setup you have 6 slots filled with Eboni-6 and 2 slots filled with
> HP Vivera PK
> The last empty slot can be filled with optimiser I guess?
>

The Eboni-6 and HP  setup I currently have in my 7800
<http://www.paulroark.com/BW-Info/7800-EbHP-2013.pdf>
is for matte paper only.  Eboni will not stick on glossy paper.


> For setup 1, and related to the dilutions:
> ----------------------------------------------
> Your advice is to work with 10 ml syringes. I think I will buy the 10 ml
> syringes and some 50 ml syringes. The 10 ml syringes are partitioned in 1
> ml steps, so I can easily work per ml.
>
It's hard to get much accuracy in a syringe at small volumes.


>
> I made a custom table, based on your advice.
> Let's say I use the 130 ml HP Vivera PK cartridge, and my printer
> cartridges are 26 ml each.. I'll use 110 ml bottles and fill them with 100
> ml diluted inks. (This makes 1 time mixing, and I can refill my catridges 4
> times with this setup... (4x25ml))
>
> The table:
>
> https://www.dropbox.com/s/38wwhb0x9d11a21/IMG_0792.JPG
>

I have not checked all the math, but the percentages are calculated
incorrectly.  When I refer to a "33.3%" mix I mean that the concentrated
ink (PK) is 1/3 or 33.3% of the total, final mix.  This is also referred to
as a 1:2 mixing ratio.  So, whatever your final volume is, divide it by 3.
 That is the amount of the PK.  For example, to make 100 ml, I use 33.3% PK
and 66.7% clear dilution base.

Hope this helps.

Paul
www.PaulRoark.com


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