QTR-Quadtone RIP

Alright, some ink is finally on its way. It took me some time but I found carts from a place 
called www.alotofthings.com. Can't wait. So much so that I'm thinking about a spectro 
after this. Since I'm a starving college student in egregiously expensive southern California 
I'd like to inquire on a modestly priced device – do you guys happen to know of one?

--- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, "Joseph" <bandittrout@...> wrote:
>
> Carl and Paul,
> 
> Thank you much – you guys are revolutionizing the industry here. I ordered, some time 
> ago, the 3-mk ink cartridge set and I'm still waiting for it. If they do come then I'll go 
> through that workflow. For some time I've been using Premier Art's hot press papers 
and 
> as I understand the 3-mk workflow works admirably with it, so I look forward to trying 
it 
> out. I also have a good stack of gold fibre silk that arrives tomorrow, so I'll try the 
coating 
> procedure outlined by Paul and see if I like it. 
> 
> If the cartridges end up not coming because of this whole patent thing then I'm going 
> straight to the 3mk, 3 pk process with bulk inks. Carl, I didn't notice any empty epson 
> cartridges for sale on MIS' website, we'll see what happens.
> 
> --- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, "Paul Roark" <paul.roark@> wrote:
> 
> 
> >
> > As part of my 1800-3MK write-up (http://www.paulroark.com/BW-Info/R1800.htm)
> > I now have a section on the glossy printing with Glop at
> > http://www.paulroark.com/BW-Info/3MK-Glossy.pdf   From that page there is a
> > link to a Zip file with some of my initial profiles.  This is still
> > experimental, however.  So, no guarantees.  I'll add to this section as I
> > learn things.  Right now I'm stuck on progress with Ilford because it's on
> > back order.  I'll probably dust off some of the old glossy papers to see how
> > they do with the approach.
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > Paul
> > 
> > www.PaulRoark.com <http://www.paulroark.com/>  
> > 
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> > From: QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com [mailto:QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com] On
> > Behalf Of Joseph
> > Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2008 2:52 PM
> > To: QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [QuadtoneRIP] Re: 3-MK and Ilford Galerie Gold Fibre Silk
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > Carl,
> > 
> > Yeah, I would love to start experimenting with this method. Also, how are
> > you going about 
> > filling your cartridges as this is becoming more and more of an issue with
> > the whole patent 
> > crises.
> > 
> > Regards
> > --- In QuadtoneRIP@ <mailto:QuadtoneRIP%40yahoogroups.com> yahoogroups.com,
> > Carl Schofield <list@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Joseph,
> > > 
> > > Paul Roark and I have been working on some profiles for printing to 
> > > Ilford Gold Silk and other fiber/RC papers using Eboni, PK, and 
> > > Glop. Paul will be posting his workflow notes on his website. The 
> > > profiles are still evolving, but if you want to experiment let me 
> > > know and I can send you my most recent profile for Ilford Gold Silk. 
> > > I'm thinking of setting up a CIS, but not until the inks for this 
> > > process have been finalized. Right now I'm just refilling carts and 
> > > my setup consists of three Eboni channels, three PK (I've been trying 
> > > several PK versions) channels, and two Glop channels. If you just 
> > > want to print with just three PK inks and glop I also have a profile 
> > > for that. The combined Eboni/PK prints with a glop overlay have very 
> > > high dmax (about 3.0) and have a lot of depth.
> > > 
> > > Carl Schofield
> > > http://photos. <http://photos.schophoto.com> schophoto.com
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > On Feb 16, 2008, at 12:16 PM, Joseph wrote:
> > > 
> > > > Carl,
> > > >
> > > > I've been reading these posts - especially this one - because I 
> > > > also want to print with an
> > > > 1800 on GFS paper. Is RC Neutral PK originally for the R260, 280, 
> > > > et al? Should I be using
> > > > a CFS? Thanks for your patience.
> > > >
> > > > --- In QuadtoneRIP@ <mailto:QuadtoneRIP%40yahoogroups.com>
> > yahoogroups.com, Frank Jay <frankjay02@> wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> Thanks Carl, I appreciate your help.
> > > >> I have some testing to do I see.,
> > > >> Frank
> > > >>
> > > >> Carl Schofield <list@> wrote:
> > > >> Frank,
> > > >>
> > > >> Eboni will not work well on RC lustre papers, but you might want to
> > > >> try Hahnemuhle Photo Rag Satin with Eboni 3MK and see if you like
> > > >> that look. It has less sheen compared to RC lustre papers, but for
> > > >> some images it works quite well with 3MK Eboni.
> > > >>
> > > >> Carl Schofield
> > > >> http://photos. <http://photos.schophoto.com> schophoto.com
> > > >>
> > > >> On Jan 3, 2008, at 11:42 AM, Frank Jay wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >>> Ok, thanks.
> > > >>> I do use my 1800 for color and black and white and probably just
> > > >>> as well because my skill level at this, being I am new to it,
> > > >>> doesn't include changing profiles around. So, what you are saying
> > > >>> is that you have three matte inks in three slots, and three other
> > > >>> black inks in three others slots which allow you to print on glossy
> > > >>> papers if you decide to...??. In order to print on luster papers,
> > > >>> which I like better than matte papers, do I need such a set up also
> > > >>> or wlil the 3MK print on lustre.?
> > > >>> thanks for the help carl
> > > >>> Frank
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Carl Schofield <list@> wrote:
> > > >>> Frank,
> > > >>>
> > > >>> If you are not doing color work with your 1800 you are free to put
> > > >>> inks in any slots you want to use. If you want to use Paul's
> > > >>> profiles as is then yes you must use the MK, PK, and GL positions 
> > > >>> for
> > > >>> Eboni. My setup consists of Eboni MK in the MK, PK, and Y ink
> > > >>> positions with MIS RCNTL_PK in the C, R, and B slots and Glop in the
> > > >>> GL position. This lets me do either matte or RC papers with or
> > > >>> without glop for the latter. All of the profiles I have put in the
> > > >>> archive are for this ink configuration. If you want to use different
> > > >>> ink positions just edit the profiles to change the ink assignments.
> > > >>> The MIS RCNTL-PK is a neutral photo black ink. They also have a warm
> > > >>> and cool PK.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Carl Schofield
> > > >>> http://photos. <http://photos.schophoto.com> schophoto.com
> > > >>>
> > > >>> On Jan 3, 2008, at 11:13 AM, Frank Jay wrote:
> > > >>>
> > > >>>> I am a bit, well a LOT confused with Carl's post here. When I
> > > >>>> bought the Eboni MIS inks for my R1800 from inksupply.com, I was
> > > >>>> told they were to be put in the MK,PK and GL slots. When I bought a
> > > >>>> 4.0z refill of Eboni ink I was told the ink was to be put in all
> > > >>>> three carts as the ink in each one was the same . Why then, and
> > > >>>> how, can the ink be used in the C, R and B slots.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Also..what is MIS RCNTL PK ink? I was told that there was only
> > > >>>> one ink to use in the R1800...the 3MK ink and only to be used on
> > > >>>> matter papers.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> I will hold off other quetions about this for another post, I
> > > >>>> think my confusion is showing itself as it is.
> > > >>>> thanks
> > > >>>> Frank
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Carl Schofield <list@> wrote:
> > > >>>> I put a profile for Ilford Gold Silk in the R1800 files
> > > >>>> folder
> > > >>>> archive. The profile is for MIS RCNTL PK ink in the C, R, and B
> > > >>>> positions with GLOP in the GL channel. The paper is designed for
> > > >>>> photo black ink. Unless you spray your prints, I would think that
> > > >>>> Eboni might rub off quite easily.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Carl
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> On Jan 3, 2008, at 2:32 AM, scott_now_coming wrote:
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>> If anyone's printing with 3-MK with an R1800 (or R800, as in my
> > > >>>>> case)
> > > >>>>> and has any of the Gold Fibre Silk, they should run a few test.
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> Before turning off my computer and printers for the evening, I
> > > >>>>> thought
> > > >>>>> I'd try running a 4x5" piece of GFS through my R800 loaded with
> > > >>>>> Eboni
> > > >>>>> 3-MK.
> > > >>>>> I was pleasantly suprised by the result.
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> My QTR settings were:
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> Type: Matte
> > > >>>>> Curve 1: 3-MKEpsPremArtScapbook
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> If I had the means to measure step wedges, I'd make a profile.
> > > >>>>> Unfortunatly, I only have an i-1 to calibrate monitors. :>(
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> Anyhow, I think the 3-MK w/IGGFS may make a great combo.
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> Scott
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>
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