QTR-Quadtone RIP

It's well worthwhile to get the profile "better behaved" i.e. closer
to linear before
doing the linearization.

Roy

On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 12:06 PM, SandyK <sanking@...> wrote:
> I think you answered my question.
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> First, there was no ruler in the kit I bought so I have tried to improvise a work around with a guide. Does X-Rite still sell parts for this device?
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> But the major problem could be in the second issue, i.e. lack of density change between the steps. I was trying to test the device with a random step wedge printed with a profile that does not produce a lot of contrast so the density difference between the steps is not great. But, I do not have any problem measuring with Mode = Patch.
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> Sandy King
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> --- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, Roy Harrington <roy@...> wrote:
>>
>> You should be able to make the wedge larger, but I wonder if that's
>> what the issue is.
>> Assuming you are using the i1 with the supplied ruler, the wedge is
>> probably on the minimum
>> that should work but its not particularly hard to align it.
>>
>> The main issue with the "scan without gaps" is that there has be
>> enough of a density
>> change that the device recognizes the change.  (There is no timing check).
>> The random pattern should give enough contrast in most situations but
>> if its all too dark or
>> too light it can fail.
>>
>> Roy
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>> On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 10:07 AM, SandyK <sanking@...> wrote:
>> > Can one print teh 21 random step wedge larger, say 8"X5" rather than 8"X1.5", to make it easier to scan. I get an error message every time I try to scan the small wedge with the Strip Without Gaps Mode, though I can measure each of the steps in Patch mode.
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>> > Sandy King
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>> > --- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, Roy Harrington <roy@> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Sean,
>> >>
>> >> I've used it a lot so I went back and looked at the sequence.
>> >> When you are on the page that says "Mode: Patch" you pull that down to
>> >> select "Strip without gaps".  The second pull down that said Manual goes away.
>> >> The Start button also goes gray because you use the button on the device
>> >> to start the scan.   Place the device on the white spot under "Beg" on
>> >> the paper.
>> >> Push the button and wait for a low beep sound (about a second) then drag
>> >> the device steadily across the patches to the white at other end. Stop and
>> >> then let up button on device.  If you hear 3 beeps thats an error you can try
>> >> again. Otherwise, "Close" and "Save As" on next dialog.
>> >>
>> >> Roy
>> >>
>> >> On Sat, Aug 27, 2011 at 3:35 PM, spsguru <spsguru@> wrote:
>> >> > OK- now I am stumped.
>> >> > The Measure Tool grays out the Start button when I choose anything other than manual - so I cannot scan strip without gaps
>> >> >
>> >> > And the manual tool does not begin on white but right on the patch.
>> >> >
>> >> > I must be missing something obvious but dont know what it is - cannot you not scan Strips without a dongle?
>> >> >
>> >> > Sean
>> >> >
>> >> > --- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, Michael King <drmrking@> wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> yep you got it - it will tell you if it reads the line correct.
>> >> >> if not try starting with a bit more white and ending with a bit more white.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> you need to press the button on the i1 device to start each line.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> good luck
>> >> >>
>> >> >> On 27 August 2011 01:20, spsguru <spsguru@> wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > **
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Mike - this is just the kind of insight I was hoping for...can never seem
>> >> >> > to find this stuff in a manual.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > No - I was scanning using Patches not strip
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > So - Strip without Gaps - start on white end on white - for each line -
>> >> >> > correct?
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > thank you
>> >> >> > Sean
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > --- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, Michael King <drmrking@> wrote:
>> >> >> > >
>> >> >> > > Seanh,
>> >> >> > >
>> >> >> > > ok so just to confirm - you are printing the 21 x 4 random target from
>> >> >> > the
>> >> >> > > QTR eye-one folder - correct?
>> >> >> > > Without changing its size or anything else - correct?
>> >> >> > >
>> >> >> > > then you load the 24 x 4 random txt file into measure tool and select
>> >> >> > "mode:
>> >> >> > > strip without gaps".
>> >> >> > > Then starting at the top left of the target where it says "Beg" you scan
>> >> >> > the
>> >> >> > > target smoothly from left to right for one line and the come back to the
>> >> >> > > beginning of the next line and scan from left to right again etc.
>> >> >> > >
>> >> >> > > Note you must start the scan on the white paper before the target line
>> >> >> > and
>> >> >> > > end on the white paper after the target line.
>> >> >> > >
>> >> >> > > Mike
>> >> >> > >
>> >> >> > >
>> >> >> > >
>> >> >> > > On 26 August 2011 21:13, spsguru <spsguru@> wrote:
>> >> >> > >
>> >> >> > > > **
>> >> >> > > >
>> >> >> > > >
>> >> >> > > > Mike
>> >> >> > > >
>> >> >> > > > Thank you for the tip.
>> >> >> > > >
>> >> >> > > > I did install measure. After multiple tries I keep getting the out of
>> >> >> > order
>> >> >> > > > error using the 21x4 patch
>> >> >> > > >
>> >> >> > > > When I look at the sampled strip just prior to export it looks like the
>> >> >> > > > printed strip so I think I am measuring then right patch
>> >> >> > > >
>> >> >> > > > But like I said after about 6 tries I keep getting the error
>> >> >> > > >
>> >> >> > > > Any ideas how to get past this?
>> >> >> > > >
>> >> >> > > > Thank you
>> >> >> > > > Sean
>> >> >> > > >
>> >> >> > > > --- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, Michael King <drmrking@> wrote:
>> >> >> > > > >
>> >> >> > > > > I don't think iprofiler supports spot measurements. You need the old
>> >> >> > > > xrite
>> >> >> > > > > "measuretool". It comes as part of the discontinued profilemaker5
>> >> >> > > > download,
>> >> >> > > > > and the features you need work without a dongle (i.e. free). You can
>> >> >> > get
>> >> >> > > > it
>> >> >> > > > > here ...
>> >> >> > > > >
>> >> >> > > >
>> >> >> > http://www.xrite.com/product_overview.aspx?ID=757&Action=support&SoftwareID=931
>> >> >> > > > >
>> >> >> > > > > I think you can choose what to install - so just install measuretool.
>> >> >> > > > >
>> >> >> > > > > Good luck.
>> >> >> > > > >
>> >> >> > > > > Mike
>> >> >> > > > >
>> >> >> > > > > On 26 August 2011 01:56, spsguru <spsguru@> wrote:
>> >> >> > > > >
>> >> >> > > > > > **
>> >> >> > > > > >
>> >> >> > > > > >
>> >> >> > > > > > Hi all
>> >> >> > > > > >
>> >> >> > > > > > I am new to creating icc profiles
>> >> >> > > > > >
>> >> >> > > > > > I just purchased i1 Pro Basic kit
>> >> >> > > > > >
>> >> >> > > > > > The software it comes with is i1 Profiler that automatically
>> >> >> > creates
>> >> >> > > > > > targets
>> >> >> > > > > >
>> >> >> > > > > > I cannot find a way to just get to the measuring device and take
>> >> >> > the
>> >> >> > > > spot
>> >> >> > > > > > measurements I think I need to for creation of ICC - or to load in
>> >> >> > the
>> >> >> > > > > > target the way the Roy's icc instructions dictate for the old
>> >> >> > software.
>> >> >> > > > > >
>> >> >> > > > > > Any help on creating icc profiles with i1 Pro basic kit would be
>> >> >> > > > > > appreciated
>> >> >> > > > > >
>> >> >> > > > > > thank you
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