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Using X-Rite Pulse with QTR-Create-ICC

Using X-Rite Pulse with QTR-Create-ICC

2005-09-30 by Jamie Creed

has anybody established a work around to use an X-Rite Pulse with 
QTR-Create-ICC? I'm trying but am not quite sure how close I am.

Question:
looking at Tom Moore's excellent CurveEval1 Excel spreadsheet (the 
MeasureFile Template,) I was wondering if it is absolutely essential 
to enter the X Y Z values. The Lab values I can get into the 
template automatically with the Pulse and ColorShop X, but the X Y Z 
values I need to enter manually 1 by 1 (which is pretty 
unrealistic.) The reason I'm asking if the X Y Z values are 
necessary is because when the initail text file is dropped onto the 
QTR-Linearize-Data the resulting text file only shows - step (0-100) 
Lab a b values, plus of course the graphical representation and the 
Linearize data, so I got to wondering if the X Y Z values are just 
something that the Eye-One generates when setup and configured with 
GMB MeasureTool, which is subsequently filtered out when the initail 
text file is dropped on the QTR-Linearize-Data program/droplet.

If I'm way off the mark, please tell me, when you've stopped laughing

Jamie

RE: [QuadtoneRIP] Using X-Rite Pulse with QTR-Create-ICC

2005-10-01 by Tom Moore

Jamie
The X Y Z values are not needed. To quote Roy's announcement of the release
of the latest QTR, all you need are:

----------------
Updates for QTR-Create-ICC tool:

It now supports color softproofing -- works but highlights are slighty too
saturated fixes are in progress.
Supports a more general data input file.  Anything columnar, looks for
column headings of:
GRAY
L, LAB, LAB_L, A, LAB_A, B, LAB_B
D, DENSITY, V, VISUAL
----------------

I would be surprised if you needed anything different for
QTR-Linearize-data.

Tom Moore
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com [mailto:QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com] On
> Behalf Of Jamie Creed
> Sent: Friday, September 30, 2005 7:44 PM
> To: QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [QuadtoneRIP] Using X-Rite Pulse with QTR-Create-ICC
> 
> has anybody established a work around to use an X-Rite Pulse with
> QTR-Create-ICC? I'm trying but am not quite sure how close I am.
> 
> Question:
> looking at Tom Moore's excellent CurveEval1 Excel spreadsheet (the
> MeasureFile Template,) I was wondering if it is absolutely essential
> to enter the X Y Z values. The Lab values I can get into the
> template automatically with the Pulse and ColorShop X, but the X Y Z
> values I need to enter manually 1 by 1 (which is pretty
> unrealistic.) The reason I'm asking if the X Y Z values are
> necessary is because when the initail text file is dropped onto the
> QTR-Linearize-Data the resulting text file only shows - step (0-100)
> Lab a b values, plus of course the graphical representation and the
> Linearize data, so I got to wondering if the X Y Z values are just
> something that the Eye-One generates when setup and configured with
> GMB MeasureTool, which is subsequently filtered out when the initail
> text file is dropped on the QTR-Linearize-Data program/droplet.
> 
> If I'm way off the mark, please tell me, when you've stopped laughing
> 
> Jamie

Re: Using X-Rite Pulse with QTR-Create-ICC

2005-10-01 by Roy Harrington

Create-ICC and Linearize-Data formats:

Columnar data.
X,Y,Z are not used at all.
A and B are optional -- assumes 0 if not given.
Either L or D is necessary (any of the column headings).
Gray is used if there, otherwise even values are generated.
Values are sorted by Gray if its there (this allows checking for in order)
otherwise just sort by L or D.

If there are no headings, intelligent guesses are made -- look at the popup page to
see if you are getting what you expect.  If not add headings manually.

Lastly you can put a single line with just L or D values -- like the linearize string.

As you can see there are a lot of possibilites, I think it should handle most text data
file formats.   

Roy

--- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, "Tom Moore" <r.t.moore@r...> wrote:
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> Jamie
> The X Y Z values are not needed. To quote Roy's announcement of the release
> of the latest QTR, all you need are:
> 
> ----------------
> Updates for QTR-Create-ICC tool:
> 
> It now supports color softproofing -- works but highlights are slighty too
> saturated fixes are in progress.
> Supports a more general data input file.  Anything columnar, looks for
> column headings of:
> GRAY
> L, LAB, LAB_L, A, LAB_A, B, LAB_B
> D, DENSITY, V, VISUAL
> ----------------
> 
> I would be surprised if you needed anything different for
> QTR-Linearize-data.
> 
> Tom Moore
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com [mailto:QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com] On
> > Behalf Of Jamie Creed
> > Sent: Friday, September 30, 2005 7:44 PM
> > To: QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [QuadtoneRIP] Using X-Rite Pulse with QTR-Create-ICC
> > 
> > has anybody established a work around to use an X-Rite Pulse with
> > QTR-Create-ICC? I'm trying but am not quite sure how close I am.
> > 
> > Question:
> > looking at Tom Moore's excellent CurveEval1 Excel spreadsheet (the
> > MeasureFile Template,) I was wondering if it is absolutely essential
> > to enter the X Y Z values. The Lab values I can get into the
> > template automatically with the Pulse and ColorShop X, but the X Y Z
> > values I need to enter manually 1 by 1 (which is pretty
> > unrealistic.) The reason I'm asking if the X Y Z values are
> > necessary is because when the initail text file is dropped onto the
> > QTR-Linearize-Data the resulting text file only shows - step (0-100)
> > Lab a b values, plus of course the graphical representation and the
> > Linearize data, so I got to wondering if the X Y Z values are just
> > something that the Eye-One generates when setup and configured with
> > GMB MeasureTool, which is subsequently filtered out when the initail
> > text file is dropped on the QTR-Linearize-Data program/droplet.
> > 
> > If I'm way off the mark, please tell me, when you've stopped laughing
> > 
> > Jamie

Re: Using X-Rite Pulse with QTR-Create-ICC

2005-10-01 by Jamie Creed

Tom and Roy,

thank you both so much for helping me nail this down. This animal 
just gets better and better,

Jamie

--- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, "Roy Harrington" wrote:
Show quoted textHide quoted text
> Create-ICC and Linearize-Data formats:
> 
> Columnar data.
> X,Y,Z are not used at all.
> A and B are optional -- assumes 0 if not given.
> Either L or D is necessary (any of the column headings).
> Gray is used if there, otherwise even values are generated.
> Values are sorted by Gray if its there (this allows checking for 
> in order) otherwise just sort by L or D.
> 
> If there are no headings, intelligent guesses are made -- look at 
> the popup page to see if you are getting what you expect.  If not 
> add headings manually.
> 
> Lastly you can put a single line with just L or D values -- like 
> the linearize string.
> 
> As you can see there are a lot of possibilites, I think it should 
> handle most text data file formats.   
> 
> Roy
> 
> --- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, "Tom Moore" wrote:

> > Jamie
> > The X Y Z values are not needed. To quote Roy's announcement of 
> > the release of the latest QTR, all you need are:
> > 
> > ----------------
> > Updates for QTR-Create-ICC tool:
> > 
> > It now supports color softproofing -- works but highlights are 
> > slighty too saturated fixes are in progress.
> > Supports a more general data input file.  Anything columnar, 
> > looks for column headings of:
> > GRAY, L, LAB, LAB_L, A, LAB_A, B, LAB_B, D, DENSITY, V, VISUAL
> > ----------------
> > 
> > I would be surprised if you needed anything different for
> > QTR-Linearize-data.
> > 
> > Tom Moore
> > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > >
> > > From: QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com On Behalf Of Jamie Creed
> > > Sent: Friday, September 30, 2005 7:44 PM
> > > Subject: [QuadtoneRIP] Using X-Rite Pulse with QTR-Create-ICC
> > > 
> > > has anybody established a work around to use an X-Rite Pulse 
> > > with QTR-Create-ICC? I'm trying but am not quite sure how     
> > > close I am.
> > > 
> > > Question:
> > > looking at Tom Moore's excellent CurveEval1 Excel spreadsheet 
> > > (the MeasureFile Template,) I was wondering if it is          
> > > absolutely essential
> > > to enter the X Y Z values. The Lab values I can get into the
> > > template automatically with the Pulse and ColorShop X, but the 
> > > X Y Z values I need to enter manually 1 by 1 (which is pretty
> > > unrealistic.) The reason I'm asking if the X Y Z values are
> > > necessary is because when the initail text file is dropped 
> > > onto the QTR-Linearize-Data the resulting text file only      
> > > shows - step (0-100) Lab a b values, plus of course the       
> > > graphical representation and the Linearize data, so I got to  
> > > wondering if the X Y Z values are just something that the Eye-
> > > One generates when setup and configured with GMB MeasureTool, 
> > > which is subsequently filtered out when the initail
> > > text file is dropped on the QTR-Linearize-Data program/droplet.
> > > 
> > > If I'm way off the mark, please tell me, when you've stopped 
> > > laughing
> > > 
> > > Jamie

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