QTR-Quadtone RIP

I just purchased an Epson R2400 to replace the 1270, which has been  
dedicated to B&W printing with MIS UT2 inks and QuadToneRIP  for a  
couple of years. Since I needed to do an operating system overhaul  
anyway, I took the opportunity to reinstall everything from scratch  
which means I now have *only* the Epson R2400 software and profiles  
installed. I'm standardizing on Epson Heavyweight Matte and Enhanced  
Matte for general printing with this printer (likely one higher-grade  
paper as well: perhaps one of the Hahnemuehle or Moab papers, or  
Epson Velvet Fine Art), and I print a lot of B&W work.

What I'm interested to know from others who have gone to this  
printer: How much of an advantage have you seen from use of QTR over  
the Epson driver for B&W printing? So far, my tests on the Epson  
Enhanced Matte paper have proven to show very good quality. I'm just  
unsure as to how much additional benefit would be had from going to  
QTR at this point ... It is a godsend for getting decent B&W out of  
the 1270.

Godfrey

I am using the 2400 with the ABW Epson driver and getting very good 
results from it.  One part of the QTR that I would highly recommend 
is the QTR Create ICC Profile.  Use of the ICC profiles this produces 
both essentially linearizes the printer and provides a softproof view 
in PS.  You do need an Eye One Photo to use this however.  There has 
been much discussion of this approach on the BW Digital Print forum.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/

If you look in the QTR folder, you will find an Eye One folder.  
There is a file there explaining how this is all used.



--- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, Godfrey DiGiorgi <ramarren@m...> 
wrote:
>
> I just purchased an Epson R2400 to replace the 1270, which has 
been  
> dedicated to B&W printing with MIS UT2 inks and QuadToneRIP  for a  
> couple of years. Since I needed to do an operating system overhaul  
> anyway, I took the opportunity to reinstall everything from 
scratch  
> which means I now have *only* the Epson R2400 software and 
profiles  
> installed. I'm standardizing on Epson Heavyweight Matte and 
Enhanced  
> Matte for general printing with this printer (likely one higher-
grade  
> paper as well: perhaps one of the Hahnemuehle or Moab papers, or  
> Epson Velvet Fine Art), and I print a lot of B&W work.
> 
> What I'm interested to know from others who have gone to this  
> printer: How much of an advantage have you seen from use of QTR 
over  
> the Epson driver for B&W printing? So far, my tests on the Epson  
> Enhanced Matte paper have proven to show very good quality. I'm 
just  
> unsure as to how much additional benefit would be had from going 
to  
> QTR at this point ... It is a godsend for getting decent B&W out 
of  

> the 1270.
> 
> Godfrey
>

P.S. If you do this, use the Create ICC from QTR 2.3.0.  The file in 
2.3.1 has some problems which Roy is working out.  When that is done, 
it offers the additional advantage of actually being able to Soft Proof 
paper color, which is remarkable.  In the meanwhile, 2.3.0 is excellent.

wwodets,

I am looking to do exactly what you are describing below, so I went 
to the files section of the DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint group. I 
found the QTR folder, but there is no Eye One folder underneath. Do 
you, or anyone else for that matter, have this information or know of 
another place I can find it one the Net or in a Yahoo Group?

Any help would be greatly appreciated, and thanks to everyone for the 
wealth of knowledge I am only beggining to go through now.

Steve

--- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, "wwodets" <odets@c...> wrote:
>
> I am using the 2400 with the ABW Epson driver and getting very good 
> results from it.  One part of the QTR that I would highly recommend 
> is the QTR Create ICC Profile.  Use of the ICC profiles this 
produces 
> both essentially linearizes the printer and provides a softproof 
view 
> in PS.  You do need an Eye One Photo to use this however.  There 
has 
> been much discussion of this approach on the BW Digital Print forum.
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/
> 
> If you look in the QTR folder, you will find an Eye One folder.  
> There is a file there explaining how this is all used.
> 
> 
> 
> --- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, Godfrey DiGiorgi 
<ramarren@m...> 
> wrote:
> >
> > I just purchased an Epson R2400 to replace the 1270, which has 
> been  
> > dedicated to B&W printing with MIS UT2 inks and QuadToneRIP  for 
a  
> > couple of years. Since I needed to do an operating system 
overhaul  

> > anyway, I took the opportunity to reinstall everything from 
> scratch  
> > which means I now have *only* the Epson R2400 software and 
> profiles  
> > installed. I'm standardizing on Epson Heavyweight Matte and 
> Enhanced  
> > Matte for general printing with this printer (likely one higher-
> grade  
> > paper as well: perhaps one of the Hahnemuehle or Moab papers, or  
> > Epson Velvet Fine Art), and I print a lot of B&W work.
> > 
> > What I'm interested to know from others who have gone to this  
> > printer: How much of an advantage have you seen from use of QTR 
> over  
> > the Epson driver for B&W printing? So far, my tests on the Epson  
> > Enhanced Matte paper have proven to show very good quality. I'm 
> just  
> > unsure as to how much additional benefit would be had from going 
> to  
> > QTR at this point ... It is a godsend for getting decent B&W out 
> of  
> > the 1270.
> > 
> > Godfrey
> >
>

Steve

You need to download and install QuadtoneRIP. The Eye1 folder is within the
QuadtoneRIP installation folder under \Program Files (on a PC, of course, on
a Mac it's different). You can get QuadToneRIP from here:
	http://www.quadtonerip.com/html/QTRoverview.html

If you like it and intend to keep using it (even just the ICC profiling
part), don't forget to reward Roy ($50) so we can all continue to benefit
from his hard work.

Tom Moore

> -----Original Message-----
> From: QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com [mailto:QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com] On
> Behalf Of Steve
> Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2005 10:39 AM
> To: QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [QuadtoneRIP] Re: how much of an advantage ... a general question
> regards the R2400
> 
> wwodets,
> 
> I am looking to do exactly what you are describing below, so I went
> to the files section of the DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint group. I
> found the QTR folder, but there is no Eye One folder underneath. Do
> you, or anyone else for that matter, have this information or know of
> another place I can find it one the Net or in a Yahoo Group?
> 
> Any help would be greatly appreciated, and thanks to everyone for the
> wealth of knowledge I am only beggining to go through now.
> 
> Steve
> 
...

Steve-
You can download the program at:

http://www.quadtonerip.com/html/QTRdownload.html

On the PC, if you install the program and go to Program Files\QTR\Eye 
One, there is a a program called Create ICC.  You drop the I1 Measure 
Tool text file on the program and it creates the ICC profile in the 
directory to text file was in.

You are welcome to email me if you need more help.

Walt


--- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, "Steve" <smoon2003@e...> wrote:
>
> wwodets,
> 
> I am looking to do exactly what you are describing below, so I went 
> to the files section of the DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint group. I 
> found the QTR folder, but there is no Eye One folder underneath. Do 
> you, or anyone else for that matter, have this information or know 
of 
> another place I can find it one the Net or in a Yahoo Group?
> 
> Any help would be greatly appreciated, and thanks to everyone for 
the 
> wealth of knowledge I am only beggining to go through now.
> 
> Steve
> 
> --- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, "wwodets" <odets@c...> wrote:
> >
> > I am using the 2400 with the ABW Epson driver and getting very 
good 
> > results from it.  One part of the QTR that I would highly 
recommend 
> > is the QTR Create ICC Profile.  Use of the ICC profiles this 
> produces 
> > both essentially linearizes the printer and provides a softproof 
> view 
> > in PS.  You do need an Eye One Photo to use this however.  There 
> has 
> > been much discussion of this approach on the BW Digital Print 
forum.
> > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/
> > 
> > If you look in the QTR folder, you will find an Eye One folder.  
> > There is a file there explaining how this is all used.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > --- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, Godfrey DiGiorgi 
> <ramarren@m...> 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > I just purchased an Epson R2400 to replace the 1270, which has 
> > been  
> > > dedicated to B&W printing with MIS UT2 inks and QuadToneRIP  
for 
> a  
> > > couple of years. Since I needed to do an operating system 
> overhaul  
> > > anyway, I took the opportunity to reinstall everything from 
> > scratch  
> > > which means I now have *only* the Epson R2400 software and 
> > profiles  
> > > installed. I'm standardizing on Epson Heavyweight Matte and 
> > Enhanced  
> > > Matte for general printing with this printer (likely one higher-
> > grade  
> > > paper as well: perhaps one of the Hahnemuehle or Moab papers, 
or  
> > > Epson Velvet Fine Art), and I print a lot of B&W work.
> > > 
> > > What I'm interested to know from others who have gone to this  
> > > printer: How much of an advantage have you seen from use of QTR 
> > over  
> > > the Epson driver for B&W printing? So far, my tests on the 
Epson  
> > > Enhanced Matte paper have proven to show very good quality. I'm 
> > just  
> > > unsure as to how much additional benefit would be had from 
going 
> > to  
> > > QTR at this point ... It is a godsend for getting decent B&W 
out 

> > of  
> > > the 1270.
> > > 
> > > Godfrey
> > >
> >
>

Walt,

Thanks for clearing that up for me. I will be intalling QTR this 
weekend, and my Eye-One comes next week. We will see how I fare then. 
If I need any further assistance, I will take you up on your offer of 
help.

Thanks again,

Steve

--- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, "wwodets" <odets@c...> wrote:
>
> Steve-
> You can download the program at:
> 
> http://www.quadtonerip.com/html/QTRdownload.html
> 
> On the PC, if you install the program and go to Program 
Files\QTR\Eye 
> One, there is a a program called Create ICC.  You drop the I1 
Measure 
> Tool text file on the program and it creates the ICC profile in the 
> directory to text file was in.
> 
> You are welcome to email me if you need more help.
> 
> Walt
> 
> 
> --- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, "Steve" <smoon2003@e...> wrote:
> >
> > wwodets,
> > 
> > I am looking to do exactly what you are describing below, so I 
went 
> > to the files section of the DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint group. I 
> > found the QTR folder, but there is no Eye One folder underneath. 
Do 
> > you, or anyone else for that matter, have this information or 
know 
> of 
> > another place I can find it one the Net or in a Yahoo Group?
> > 
> > Any help would be greatly appreciated, and thanks to everyone for 
> the 
> > wealth of knowledge I am only beggining to go through now.
> > 
> > Steve
> > 
> > --- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, "wwodets" <odets@c...> wrote:
> > >
> > > I am using the 2400 with the ABW Epson driver and getting very 
> good 
> > > results from it.  One part of the QTR that I would highly 
> recommend 
> > > is the QTR Create ICC Profile.  Use of the ICC profiles this 
> > produces 
> > > both essentially linearizes the printer and provides a 
softproof 
> > view 
> > > in PS.  You do need an Eye One Photo to use this however.  
There 
> > has 
> > > been much discussion of this approach on the BW Digital Print 
> forum.
> > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/
> > > 
> > > If you look in the QTR folder, you will find an Eye One 
folder.  
> > > There is a file there explaining how this is all used.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, Godfrey DiGiorgi 
> > <ramarren@m...> 
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I just purchased an Epson R2400 to replace the 1270, which 
has 
> > > been  
> > > > dedicated to B&W printing with MIS UT2 inks and QuadToneRIP  
> for 
> > a  
> > > > couple of years. Since I needed to do an operating system 
> > overhaul  
> > > > anyway, I took the opportunity to reinstall everything from 
> > > scratch  
> > > > which means I now have *only* the Epson R2400 software and 
> > > profiles  
> > > > installed. I'm standardizing on Epson Heavyweight Matte and 
> > > Enhanced  
> > > > Matte for general printing with this printer (likely one 
higher-
> > > grade  
> > > > paper as well: perhaps one of the Hahnemuehle or Moab papers, 
> or  
> > > > Epson Velvet Fine Art), and I print a lot of B&W work.
> > > > 
> > > > What I'm interested to know from others who have gone to 
this  
> > > > printer: How much of an advantage have you seen from use of 
QTR 
> > > over  
> > > > the Epson driver for B&W printing? So far, my tests on the 
> Epson  
> > > > Enhanced Matte paper have proven to show very good quality. 
I'm 

> > > just  
> > > > unsure as to how much additional benefit would be had from 
> going 
> > > to  
> > > > QTR at this point ... It is a godsend for getting decent B&W 
> out 
> > > of  
> > > > the 1270.
> > > > 
> > > > Godfrey
> > > >
> > >
> >
>