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gray curve shadow & highlight controls

gray curve shadow & highlight controls

2015-08-12 by bakerstrt@...

Hi

I'm trying to create my first curves in the QTR curve creation tool.

Is anyone able to explain what effect the shadow and highlight controls on the gray curve tab do? I am using Eboni 6 inks.

Do higher numbers result in lighter printing for both highlights and shadows?

Do these controls effect the upper and lower portions of all inks or just the ends of the resulting curve?

Any explanations gratefully accepted.

Thanks

Mike

Re: gray curve shadow & highlight controls

2015-08-12 by richard@...

The gray highlight and gray shadow settings both have a default setting of 4 (if left blank), and the maximum value of 10,000. In reality, settings higher than 20 will result in barely noticeable changes, and most of the lightening affect happens with settings between 6-15. It seems that the highlight setting lightens the tones between 0 to about 25%, and the shadow setting lightens about 75% to 100%.

I've made illustration for the section in my book that covers each input in the ink descriptr file and shows the degree of change in the curve based on different settings. There is nothing that suggest that a setting higher than 50 will do anything beneficial for the highlights/shadows, and it is better to use a gamma setting or gray curve correction to have more dramatic changes to the shape of the curve.

With the Epson inks a highlight setting of about 6 seems a good place to start. Depending on your ink limits and paper type a shadow setting of about 15-20 can be good for keeping the shadows open enough to get through the linearization step without error.

These settings are useful starting places for multiple gray 3rd party inks too, but since there are many other factors to consider when making profiles for those ink sets, these are only starting points. If you are finding that your print is printing too dark even with those settings, you may want to try increasing the gamma slightly—maybe 1.05-1.3. Make small changes, because a little goes a long way there.

Hope that helps,
Richard Boutwell

RE: [QuadtoneRIP] Re: gray curve shadow & highlight controls

2015-08-12 by m venz

Thankyou Richard,

That's what I wanted to know. My mid tones are just right but I was having issues with the tones at the 10% and 80 to 95% marks, so I am assuming the gamma is ok.

Mike

To: QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com
From: QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2015 19:14:59 -0700
Subject: [QuadtoneRIP] Re: gray curve shadow & highlight controls

The gray highlight and gray shadow settings both have a default setting of 4 (if left blank), and the maximum value of 10,000. In reality, settings higher than 20 will result in barely noticeable changes, and most of the lightening affect happens with settings between 6-15. It seems that the highlight setting lightens the tones between 0 to about 25%, and the shadow setting lightens about 75% to 100%.

I've made illustration for the section in my book that covers each input in the ink descriptr file and shows the degree of change in the curve based on different settings. There is nothing that suggest that a setting higher than 50 will do anything beneficial for the highlights/shadows, and it is better to use a gamma setting or gray curve correction to have more dramatic changes to the shape of the curve.

With the Epson inks a highlight setting of about 6 seems a good place to start. Depending on your ink limits and paper type a shadow setting of about 15-20 can be good for keeping the shadows open enough to get through the linearization step without error.

These settings are useful starting places for multiple gray 3rd party inks too, but since there are many other factors to consider when making profiles for those ink sets, these are only starting points. If you are finding that your print is printing too dark even with those settings, you may want to try increasing the gamma slightly—maybe 1.05-1.3. Make small changes, because a little goes a long way there.

Hope that helps,
Richard Boutwell


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