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RIP for Canons...

RIP for Canons...

2016-06-21 by andrevallejo@...

Hi all. I used an Epson 1400 for many years, and with MIS inks and QTR, I had great results. But the print head went down the hill, and as Epsons with gray inks are very expensive where I live (and I was fed up with the clogs...) I decided to go Canon and have it for color and BW. Got a PRO 100, which has black and two grays. For some strange reason, even when printing in bw mode it uses colors, with the predictable color cast.

So this printer is calling for a RIP that can use only the black and gray inks, right? I know QTR is designed for Epsons only, so the questions are: Would it be to difficult to extend it to drive Canons? (Roy?). Any other apps that can do it? Can't seem to find one....

Happy printing!

Re: [QuadtoneRIP] RIP for Canons...

2016-06-21 by Paul Roark

You might check with http://bowhaus.com/index.php4 . I think they're rips are all for the wide format printers, however.

Paul
www.PaulRoark.com
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On Tue, Jun 21, 2016 at 3:48 PM, andrevallejo@... [QuadtoneRIP] <QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Hi all. I used an Epson 1400 for many years, and with MIS inks and QTR, I had great results. But the print head went down the hill, and as Epsons with gray inks are very expensive where I live (and I was fed up with the clogs...) I decided to go Canon and have it for color and BW. Got a PRO 100, which has black and two grays. For some strange reason, even when printing in bw mode it uses colors, with the predictable color cast.

So this printer is calling for a RIP that can use only the black and gray inks, right? I know QTR is designed for Epsons only, so the questions are: Would it be to difficult to extend it to drive Canons? (Roy?). Any other apps that can do it? Can't seem to find one....

Happy printing!


Re: [QuadtoneRIP] RIP for Canons...

2016-06-21 by Jim Thyer

Hi,  there are other RIPs, a quick Google search found 3.

Shiraz Software
Poster Jet
Serendipity.

But the problem may be the price, Poster Jet is around 500 Euro.  Expensive for a home printer.  Others do not have a clear price on their web pages.

Your best option is to get a print calibration unit, such as Datacolor Color Vision Spyderprint or X-Rite Colour Munki.

These devices generate a printer profile used in Photoshop for printing and balance the colour mixes to generate pure greys. 

Alternatively, for each paper you use you can get a commercial profile made.  

The advantage with your own calibrator is that there is minimal cost (a few sheets of paper) if you change printer or paper in the future.

Good hunting for your solution,

Jim Thyer
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Subject: [QuadtoneRIP] RIP for Canons...

  

Hi all. I used an Epson 1400 for many years, and with MIS inks and QTR, I had great results. But the print head went down the hill, and as Epsons with gray inks are very expensive where I live (and I was fed up with the clogs...) I decided to go Canon and have it for color and BW. Got a PRO 100, which has black and two grays. For some strange reason, even when printing in bw mode it uses colors, with the predictable color cast. 

So this printer is calling for a RIP that can use only the black and gray inks, right? I know QTR is designed for Epsons only, so the questions are: Would it be to difficult to extend it to drive Canons? (Roy?). Any other apps that can do it? Can't seem to find one....

Happy printing!

RE: [QuadtoneRIP] RIP for Canons...

2016-06-21 by Mike Johnston

You might try Chart Throb. It produces results I am very happy with.

 

Mike J.
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Subject: Re: [QuadtoneRIP] RIP for Canons...

 

  

Hi,  there are other RIPs, a quick Google search found 3.

 

Shiraz Software

Poster Jet

Serendipity.

 

But the problem may be the price, Poster Jet is around 500 Euro.  Expensive for a home printer.  Others do not have a clear price on their web pages.

 

Your best option is to get a print calibration unit, such as Datacolor Color Vision Spyderprint or X-Rite Colour Munki.

 

These devices generate a printer profile used in Photoshop for printing and balance the colour mixes to generate pure greys. 

 

Alternatively, for each paper you use you can get a commercial profile made.  

 

The advantage with your own calibrator is that there is minimal cost (a few sheets of paper) if you change printer or paper in the future.

 

Good hunting for your solution,

 

Jim Thyer

 

From: mailto:QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com 

Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2016 8:48 AM

To: QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com 

Subject: [QuadtoneRIP] RIP for Canons...

 

  

Hi all. I used an Epson 1400 for many years, and with MIS inks and QTR, I had great results. But the print head went down the hill, and as Epsons with gray inks are very expensive where I live (and I was fed up with the clogs...) I decided to go Canon and have it for color and BW. Got a PRO 100, which has black and two grays. For some strange reason, even when printing in bw mode it uses colors, with the predictable color cast. 

So this printer is calling for a RIP that can use only the black and gray inks, right? I know QTR is designed for Epsons only, so the questions are: Would it be to difficult to extend it to drive Canons? (Roy?). Any other apps that can do it? Can't seem to find one....

Happy printing!

Re: [QuadtoneRIP] RIP for Canons...

2016-06-21 by Roy Harrington

Sorry. Not much chance of a Canon RIP with QTR driver.
Roy
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On Tue, Jun 21, 2016 at 3:48 PM, andrevallejo@... [QuadtoneRIP] <QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


Hi all. I used an Epson 1400 for many years, and with MIS inks and QTR, I had great results. But the print head went down the hill, and as Epsons with gray inks are very expensive where I live (and I was fed up with the clogs...) I decided to go Canon and have it for color and BW. Got a PRO 100, which has black and two grays. For some strange reason, even when printing in bw mode it uses colors, with the predictable color cast.

So this printer is calling for a RIP that can use only the black and gray inks, right? I know QTR is designed for Epsons only, so the questions are: Would it be to difficult to extend it to drive Canons? (Roy?). Any other apps that can do it? Can't seem to find one....

Happy printing!






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Re: [QuadtoneRIP] RIP for Canons...

2016-06-22 by Keith Schreiber

There is a somewhat similar program for the Canon iPF series called True Black & White. I don’t believe it works with your model though. It’s also around $200 and has little or no support and a very small user base. http://www.trueblackandwhite.com <http://www.trueblackandwhite.com/>

The iPF series also has a print plug-in that has a black and white mode that is similar to Epson’s ABW.

Keith

Keith Schreiber
jkschreiber.com
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> On Jun 21, 2016, at 4:48 PM, andrevallejo@... [QuadtoneRIP] <QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
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> Hi all. I used an Epson 1400 for many years, and with MIS inks and QTR, I had great results. But the print head went down the hill, and as Epsons with gray inks are very expensive where I live (and I was fed up with the clogs...) I decided to go Canon and have it for color and BW. Got a PRO 100, which has black and two grays. For some strange reason, even when printing in bw mode it uses colors, with the predictable color cast. 
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> So this printer is calling for a RIP that can use only the black and gray inks, right? I know QTR is designed for Epsons only, so the questions are: Would it be to difficult to extend it to drive Canons? (Roy?). Any other apps that can do it? Can't seem to find one....
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> Happy printing!
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Re: [QuadtoneRIP] RIP for Canons...

2016-06-22 by andrevallejo@...

Thanks all for the suggestions,I'll look into the other rips...
I do have a Spyder to generate paper profiles, but I think all it's going to do is to reduce the cast...but it can't force the printer to use grays only...
Funny no one writes a software to do that, considering the growing base of Canon printers and the oddity of Canon itself not doing it...unless there are technical limitations to it, which I doubt...
Anyway, thanks for the hints!
Andre

Re: RIP for Canons...

2016-06-23 by yg_1@...

I'm currently testing the 24" Canon PRO-2000 for a review and have been looking into this.

In the past I've used True Black and White from Bowhaus with my iPF8300 and it's my understanding that a new version supporting larger Canon PRO printers will be along later this year.

I wrote about it a few years ago, but don't know what will change for the new version.

True Black and White review
True Black and White review
review of True Black and White print driver software for the canon iPF large format printers
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