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paper settings with QTR for SC-P800

paper settings with QTR for SC-P800

2016-11-07 by stephan.bruehl@...

I miss the possibility to control the explicit paper settings for the SC-P800, since there is no way to do this directly on the printer control panel (like before with the 3800). I have had issues with head strikes on roll paper (Ilford IGFS) and need to set the platen gap to "wide" and also explicitly define the paper thickness. All this can be done with the Epson print driver, but how can I do it with QTR ???


Best, Stephan

Re: [QuadtoneRIP] paper settings with QTR for SC-P800

2016-11-07 by Roy Harrington

I'm not exactly sure since I haven't used P800 much. Manual feeds I think give wider platen gap.
Roy
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On Monday, November 7, 2016, stephan.bruehl@mucl.de [QuadtoneRIP] <QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


I miss the possibility to control the explicit paper settings for the SC-P800, since there is no way to do this directly on the printer control panel (like before with the 3800). I have had issues with head strikes on roll paper (Ilford IGFS) and need to set the platen gap to "wide" and also explicitly define the paper thickness. All this can be done with the Epson print driver, but how can I do it with QTR ???


Best, Stephan





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Re: [QuadtoneRIP] paper settings with QTR for SC-P800

2016-11-07 by forums@walkerblackwell.com

You can set the Platen on the P800 directly. I suggest that.

best,
Walker
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> On Nov 7, 2016, at 10:58 AM, Roy Harrington roy@... [QuadtoneRIP] <QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
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Re: [QuadtoneRIP] paper settings with QTR for SC-P800

2016-11-07 by Jim Thyer

For the SC-P600 printer, the smaller unit,      to set the platen gap wide.

On the Printer control panel use Tools/Maintenance/Thick paper,    Set Thick paper to ”On”.

Note that the original setting is resumed when the printer is switched off.

Details in the manual under “Using the Control Panel”.

I would expect the SC-P800 to have a similar option.

Cheers,

Jim Thyer
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I miss the possibility to control the explicit paper settings for the SC-P800, since there is no way to do this directly on the printer control panel (like before with the 3800). I have had issues with head strikes on roll paper (Ilford IGFS) and need to set the platen gap to "wide" and also explicitly define the paper thickness. All this can be done with the Epson print driver, but how can I do it with QTR ???




Best, Stephan

Re: paper settings with QTR for SC-P800

2016-11-10 by stephan.bruehl@...

I know that there is the "wide" option on the control panel. But in the manual it's said that this works only with smart devices - whatever "smart" means in this context. I really don't understand it and thought that this option is only effective for printing from an iPad....

Stephan

Re: paper settings with QTR for SC-P800

2016-11-14 by brian_downunda@...

I've got a related question regarding my 3880, but my issue is the opposite one. I print on Platine using the sheet feeder and QTR. There's no option to set the platen gap, so one has to assume it's using the "standard" setting. No head strikes. But if I use the sheet feeder and the Epson colour driver then I do get head strikes. I'm using the Canson recommended media setting of Premium Semi-Gloss and this sets the platen gap to "auto", whatever that means in this context, and the paper thickness to 3. I'd like to know what setting QTR is using by default, so that I can use that for colour printing. Any tips?

[I know that the rear feeder is supposed to trigger a wider gap for QTR, but it's not clear whether that has any effect when printing via the Epson driver and with a media type that contains paper config settings.]

Re: [QuadtoneRIP] paper settings with QTR for SC-P800

2016-11-14 by Roy Harrington

QTR driver in general does not set platen gap or thickness. So it's a leave-as-it-is
approach. Defaults are different for sheet vs manual but no where is it really
documented what the numbers are.

Experimentation is the only way I know of.
Roy
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On Monday, November 14, 2016, brian_downunda@... [QuadtoneRIP] <QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


I've got a related question regarding my 3880, but my issue is the opposite one. I print on Platine using the sheet feeder and QTR. There's no option to set the platen gap, so one has to assume it9;s using the "standard" setting. No head strikes. But if I use the sheet feeder and the Epson colour driver then I do get head strikes. I'm using the Canson recommended media setting of Premium Semi-Gloss and this sets the platen gap to "auto", whatever that means in this context, and the paper thickness to 3. I'd like to know what setting QTR is using by default, so that I can use that for colour printing. Any tips?

[I know that the rear feeder is supposed to trigger a wider gap for QTR, but it's not clear whether that has any effect when printing via the Epson driver and with a media type that contains paper config settings.]



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Re: [QuadtoneRIP] paper settings with QTR for SC-P800

2016-11-14 by Keith Schreiber

Brian,

I'm pretty sure you can set the platen gap from the printer control panel and that setting will be applied unless it is overridden by a software setting. Since QTR does not have a platen gap setting, as Roy has confirmed, this should be the case here. It has worked that way for me over the last 8 years with 3880s and 3800s. Stated another way, I'm fairly certain that the setting QTR uses is whatever you have set at the control panel. There is no AUTO setting on the control panel platen gap.

As for color printing with the Epson driver, my understanding is that each media setting has a pre-defined platen gap setting as part of it's configuration. That doesn't mean you'll be able to figure out what it is. ;) But if you are consistently getting head strikes using Canson's recommended settings then why not create a special paper configuration with a wider platen gap? See pages 43-45 of the manual.

Cheers,
Keith

Keith Schreiber
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> On Nov 13, 2016, at 6:09 PM, brian_downunda@... [QuadtoneRIP] <QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
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> I've got a related question regarding my 3880, but my issue is the opposite one.  I print on Platine using the sheet feeder and QTR.  There's no option to set the platen gap, so one has to assume it's using the "standard" setting.  No head strikes.  But if I use the sheet feeder and the Epson colour driver then I do get head strikes.  I'm using the Canson recommended media setting of Premium Semi-Gloss and this sets the platen gap to "auto", whatever that means in this context, and the paper thickness to 3.  I'd like to know what setting QTR is using by default, so that I can use that for colour printing.  Any tips?
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> [I know that the rear feeder is supposed to trigger a wider gap for QTR, but it's not clear whether that has any effect when printing via the Epson driver and with a media type that contains paper config settings.]
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Re: paper settings with QTR for SC-P800

2016-11-14 by brian_downunda@...

Thanks all. I had hoped that there may be a little more science to it other than suck-it-and-see, but it seems that's what it is, and then save the settings as a preset in the driver.

Re: paper settings with QTR for SC-P800

2016-12-10 by michael.mutmansky@...

I want to add to this a bit...

In the Epson drivers, there is the ability to set the platen width and the paper thickness in an "advanced media control" dialogue box in the print driver.

Is there any way to get this dialogue back while using the QTR driver? As has been discussed, QTR doesn't directly do this, but might it be possible to activate parts of the Epson printer driver to enable this, since the driver is installed on the machine anyway.

I see that it is possible to set the 'thick' paper setting in the maintenance section on the printer directly, but that then becomes a hidden setting that you have to remember to activate, which is less then ideal.

I'm having problems with the printer grabbing more then one sheet of Red River 60# Premium Matt Plus paper at a time, in the sheet feeder; a problem I never had with my Epson 4800...

Re: paper settings with QTR for SC-P800

2016-12-11 by brian_downunda@...


---In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, <michael.mutmansky@...> wrote :

>Is there any way to get this dialogue back while using the QTR driver?

I thought the discussion in this thread clearly answered this question as no. You have to do it on the machine.

>I'm having problems with the printer grabbing more then one sheet of Red River 60# Premium Matt Plus paper at a time, in the sheet feeder; a problem I never had with my Epson 4800...

This happens with some papers. I get it with RR Pecos Gloss card stock. I don't think that the paper thickness setting is going to help you, as I don't see that it affects the behaviour of the sheet feeder. I have to tweak the paper config for these (colour) cards in the Epson driver to avoid head scraping at the start and end and it doesn't solve the feeder problem, not that I expected it to.

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