QTR-Quadtone RIP

When I use the creation tool, it creates a .quad file which I can then use to print with. I can save the underlying .qjidf file at any location of my choosing but where is the .quad file located?

John

Thanks, that works for me.

C/jt

From: QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com [mailto:QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com] 
Sent: Monday, January 16, 2017 5:56 PM
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Subject: Re: [QuadtoneRIP] Location of .quad files on Win 7 PC

 

  

Check this:

 C:\Users\[user name]\AppData\Local\VirtualStore\Program Files (x86)\QuadToneRIP\QuadTone .

 

I make a shortcut on the Desktop to get to these VirtualStore file locations.

 

Paul

www.PaulRoark.com <http://www.PaulRoark.com>  

 

On Mon, Jan 16, 2017 at 5:16 PM, jthacker@... <mailto:jthacker@...>  [QuadtoneRIP] <QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com <mailto:QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com> > wrote:

  

When I use the creation tool, it creates a .quad file which I can then use to print with. I can save the underlying .qjidf file at any location of my choosing but where is the .quad file located?

John

Don’t know if this is what you’re looking for Sandy, it assumes moving the .txt file from an iMac to a virtual machine running windows 7, on the iMac.

From my iMac, I select the .txt file and duplicate and move to desktop. Change the .txt to .qidf. I then drag the .qidf file to the desktop of windows 7 running on vmware fusion. Now you can open QTR on your windows machine, and open the file in curve creator  tool and open the .qidf on the desktop and start editing.

Doug


On Jan 17, 2017, at 5:25 PM, sanking@... [QuadtoneRIP] <QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Wonder if someone could provide a short tutorial on adapting and installing a .txt profile created for the MAC on a Windows machine? Or direct me to any existing tutorial that explains this?


Sandy

Sandy
Qtr on the windows machine has "curve creator" GUI.  It can be found under the options tab in the main GUI. In the curves creator go to file and open the txt file. If you save this file the creator will generate the appropriate .quad file and save it in the appropriate location.
John

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 17, 2017, at 2:25 PM, sanking@... [QuadtoneRIP] <QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
> 
> Wonder if someone could provide a short tutorial on adapting and installing a .txt profile created for the MAC on a Windows machine? Or direct me to any existing tutorial that explains this?
> 
> 
> Sandy
> 
>

Why wouldn’t you just take the Mac quad file?

Cheers,

Jeff 

> On 18 Jan 2017, at 2:22 PM, John Thacker jthacker@... [QuadtoneRIP] <QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> Sandy
> Qtr on the windows machine has "curve creator" GUI.  It can be found under the options tab in the main GUI. In the curves creator go to file and open the txt file. If you save this file the creator will generate the appropriate .quad file and save it in the appropriate location.
> John
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Jan 17, 2017, at 2:25 PM, sanking@... <mailto:sanking@...> [QuadtoneRIP] <QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com <mailto:QuadtoneRIP@...m>> wrote:
> 
>>  
>> Wonder if someone could provide a short tutorial on adapting and installing a .txt profile created for the MAC on a Windows machine? Or direct me to any existing tutorial that explains this?
>> 
>> 
>> Sandy
>> 
> 
>

Hi Sandy, I am running window 7 pro and the QTRGui is version 2.7.0.0, the curve creator is version 2.7.5. I opened the text file and had not issues.I have seen discussions that indicate there are issues with the curve creator in the QTRgui on later versions of windows OS, but I haven't tracked that discussion. 
The other alternative is to copy the MAC .quad file to the PC, but that doesn't help if you want to edit the underlying text file.
From the discussion with you client, it sounds as though he figured it out. Is that correct?
 Cheers, John 

    On Wednesday, January 18, 2017 6:53 AM, "sanking@... [QuadtoneRIP]" <QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
 

     John,

I assumed this was the way it should work. However, one of my former students reported that he was not able to install the Carbon-100 .txt file through the curve creator in the QTRGui. What he told me was this.

My friend is on a MAC computer and was able to load your Carbon 100 curve without any problem but I could never get it correct on my Windows PC. I kept getting a weird result for the Carbon 100 curve.

What we just discovered 2 items that cause my weird result.

On the text document that describes the curve, it does not show that Black Boost should be set to 100 in Curve Creator

Also, we did not realize that for Black Ink K – it should show 'Load Curve' and then “Curve”

Without these settings the resulting curve is not correct.

The Carbon 100 profile is quite simple and I always assumed it would install fine in Windows if one just loaded it in the QTRGui and ran the curve creator file. Could it be that he was not changing the extension from .txt to .qidf before opening the file? Or is that even necessary?

The .txt file in question is copied below.

Sandy




#PRINTER=Quad7800

GRAPH_CURVE=YES
N_OF_INKS=8
DEFAULT_INK_LIMIT=100
LIMIT_K=26
LIMIT_C=1
LIMIT_M=1
LIMIT_Y=31
LIMIT_LC=1
LIMIT_LM=1
LIMIT_LK=44
LIMIT_LLK=1

GRAY_HIGHLIGHT=4
GRAY_SHADOW=4
GRAY_GAMMA= 1

CURVE_K= "0;0 100;100"
COPY_CURVE_C=K
COPY_CURVE_M=K
COPY_CURVE_Y=K
COPY_CURVE_LC=K
COPY_CURVE_LM=K
COPY_CURVE_LK=K
COPY_CURVE_LLK=K

LINEARIZE="14.89 16.51 18.47 20.86 23.83 27.27 31.12 35 39.69 44.62 49.73 54.83 60.24 66.38 72.96 80.47 85.47 90.59 93.75 94.69 95.15"  #yiv3932322510 #yiv3932322510 -- #yiv3932322510ygrp-mkp {border:1px solid #d8d8d8;font-family:Arial;margin:10px 0;padding:0 10px;}#yiv3932322510 #yiv3932322510ygrp-mkp hr {border:1px solid #d8d8d8;}#yiv3932322510 #yiv3932322510ygrp-mkp #yiv3932322510hd {color:#628c2a;font-size:85%;font-weight:700;line-height:122%;margin:10px 0;}#yiv3932322510 #yiv3932322510ygrp-mkp #yiv3932322510ads {margin-bottom:10px;}#yiv3932322510 #yiv3932322510ygrp-mkp .yiv3932322510ad {padding:0 0;}#yiv3932322510 #yiv3932322510ygrp-mkp .yiv3932322510ad p {margin:0;}#yiv3932322510 #yiv3932322510ygrp-mkp .yiv3932322510ad a {color:#0000ff;text-decoration:none;}#yiv3932322510 #yiv3932322510ygrp-sponsor #yiv3932322510ygrp-lc {font-family:Arial;}#yiv3932322510 #yiv3932322510ygrp-sponsor #yiv3932322510ygrp-lc #yiv3932322510hd {margin:10px 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Paul,I opened the txt file using the Quad7800 printer. Ink limits ok, K curve is ok, linearization is ok. Definitely don't understand the differences.
 Cheers, John 

    On Wednesday, January 18, 2017 9:59 AM, "Paul Roark roark.paul@... [QuadtoneRIP]" <QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
 

     I had errors at first when I tried to open the file (first saved with *.qidf extension).  They related to the LK and LLK.  When I made sure the Curve Creator (Win 7, v. 2.7.0.0) printer type was set to 7800, it opened.  
When I went to save it (via the "Show Curve" button), the first error I got was due to the name having a space in it.  An underscore solved that problem.  
The next error I got was that the linearization data was not constantly increasing.  In Windows, we have to start with the paper white end of the assumed print (not negative).  I did not reverse the order of the data and try that.
Paulwww.PaulRoark.com 
On Wed, Jan 18, 2017 at 9:45 AM, jthacker@... [QuadtoneRIP] <QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

     PS: the .quad file goes in this location on the WIN 7machine
C:\Users\[name]\AppData\Local\ Virtual\Progrma Files (x86)\QuadToneRIP\QuadTone

Sirs
Since I think I am the student Sandy is referring to, here is my 2 cents.  I am not an expert on QTR.  I have read the Ron Reeder info, Clay Harmon's info and other text. 
I have a Windows 7  PC.  My friend Doug is on a Mac.
When Doug and I returned from Sandy's excellent Carbon workshop, I had numerous problems getting Sandy's Carbon 100 curve  to display correctly on my Windows PC. I kept getting  something like shown in the attachment that I will call "Wrong Curve For Carbon". 
Doug was able to get Sandy's Carbon 100 curve to show properly on his MAC without any difficulty. This curve is shown in the attachment called  "Ink load for Sandy King Carbon 100 Curve".
After many failures, Doug  and I realized that for some reason when I was entering the curve data in QTR Curve Creator, I needed to  Show Black Boost to be 100 and in Black (K) line I needed to show Load Curve - Curve.  Once I made these changes I got the correct Curve developed by Sandy.  Yeah!!!
I am not sure if this helps you to understand the curve generation issue that I had. I hope so and I hope I have not caused any confusion on this matter. 
. Bruce 

   

 On Wednesday, January 18, 2017 3:46 PM, "jthacker@pacbell.net [QuadtoneRIP]" <QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
 

     I don't know about the differences in the install programs, but I suspect it may be something different. Perhaps the difference in the text editors or the difference in the update version of Win 7.  I can do an experiment wrt Win 7. Curve creator is not kept up to day with the changes in the window OS, so maybe there is something going on there. On my laptop's version of Win 7, I keep the windows update turned off. This is the machine use for printing negatives. I can try to open the txt on my desktop, which I keep the windows update turned on automatic. I'll try the experiment when I get home later today.
This is a real puzzle.
Cheers,
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