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QTR with epson p600

QTR with epson p600

2017-11-03 by ipm60@...

Hi There

I'm totally new to the QTR, just downloaded it yesterday.

I'm just wondering if there's any info / tutorials on setting it up properly with the epson p600 with photoshop cc, I've done a fair bit of googling but can only find old info. The tutorial that comes with the download is for photoshop cs2 / 3

any help would be great :)

many thanks in advance
Ian

Re: QTR with epson p600

2017-11-04 by richard@...

The instructions are basically the same for installing and creating new curves from the preloaded ones that come with the download. The install commands are in the QuadToneRIP/Profiles/P600 folder. These profiles are the text-based instructions for making the curves and not ICC profiles (which is where a lot of new users encounter confusion). The "curves" are what are used for printing and you should really think of them as media settings for different print hues that can be blended in the QTR print dialog (using the Curve 1, 2, and 3 sliders)

As for what is needed to be updated, the only thing you need to do differently is print through PrintTool (worth 5x the price) to have absolute control over the color management settings. You might need to edit the folder/file permissions in the /library/printers/qtr/quadtone folder if you encounter a problem installing the Quadprinter/curves. I sometimes run into that problem when setting people up with new printers.

IF you do plan on making custom curves from scratch you will need to print the ink calibration images (sometimes called ink separation images) through print tool without color management using the QTR calibration mode in the driver settings. (you might want play around with the premade curves until I release my new QuickCurve system though)

I've done a lot of writing on my site about QTR stuff, and plan on making all the stuff I wrote for the book I was planning on releasing for QTR free on my site as i get it edited and formatted over the winter time. All the writing and research I did for the QTR book has been made obsolete as I developed my own improved curve creation systems. I will post a link to stuff as I get it uploaded over the next few months.

I am doing a YouTube live screencast next weekend working with my new QTR system, but it will go into installing and printing with QuadTone RIP that might be helpful for you to watch too.

Hope that helps,
Richard Boutwell

http://www.richardboutwell.com/

Re: [QuadtoneRIP] Re: QTR with epson p600

2017-11-05 by Ian Phillips-McLaren

Hi Richard
Thank you very much for answering my question, I really do appreciate that. I downloaded the Print-tool and things are starting to look a lot clearer now, and all the right settings are there. I just need to read over all the calibration text now for everything to sink in.
I'm going to have a good read on your site, there looks like a lot of really good information on there and I will look forward to any future links you post including the book. I'll definitely look forward to the youtube live screencast, how will I find or sign up for that ?
I have a question that you might be able to answer - I did a print which I added some grain to with Silver fx ( to try and match my film work ) before I bought the QTR it printed straight from photoshop to my epson p600 and the grain looked great. when I print the same image from QTR the grain has practicaly disapeared, any idea on why that might happen ? the only thin I can think of is maybe some dot gain / ink spread. Other than the lack grain the image looks fairly good.

many thanks againIan 

    On Saturday, November 4, 2017 2:35 PM, "richard@richardboutwell.com [QuadtoneRIP]" <QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
 

     The instructions are basically the same for installing and creating new curves from the preloaded ones that come with the download. The install commands are in the QuadToneRIP/Profiles/P600 folder. These profiles are the text-based instructions for making the curves and not ICC profiles (which is where a lot of new users encounter confusion). The "curves" are what are used for printing and you should really think of them as media settings for different print hues that can be blended in the QTR print dialog (using the Curve 1, 2, and 3 sliders)
As for what is needed to be updated, the only thing you need to do differently is print through PrintTool (worth 5x the price) to have absolute control over the color management settings. You might need to edit the folder/file permissions in the /library/printers/qtr/quadtone folder if you encounter a problem installing the Quadprinter/curves. I sometimes run into that problem when setting people up with new printers.
IF you do plan on making custom curves from scratch you will need to print the ink calibration images (sometimes called ink separation images) through print tool without color management using the QTR calibration mode in the driver settings. (you might want play around with the premade curves until I release my new QuickCurve system though)
I've done a lot of writing on my site about QTR stuff, and plan on making all the stuff I wrote for the book I was planning on releasing for QTR free on my site as i get it edited and formatted over the winter time. All the writing and research I did for the QTR book has been made obsolete as I developed my own improved curve creation systems. I will post a link to stuff as I get it uploaded over the next few months. 
I am doing a YouTube live screencast next weekend working with my new QTR system, but it will go into installing and printing with QuadTone RIP that might be helpful for you to watch too. 
Hope that helps, Richard Boutwell
http://www.richardboutwell.com/http://www.bwmastery.com/

Re: QTR with epson p600

2017-11-05 by ipm60@...

Hi Richard

Thank you very much for answering my question, I really do appreciate that. I downloaded the Print-tool and things are starting to look a lot clearer now, and all the right settings are there. I just need to read over all the calibration text now for everything to sink in.

I'm going to have a good read on your site, there looks like a lot of really good information on there and I will look forward to any future links you post including the book. I'll definitely look forward to the youtube live screencast, how will I find or sign up for that ?

I have a question that you might be able to answer - I did a print which I added some grain to with Silver fx ( to try and match my film work ) before I bought the QTR it printed straight from photoshop to my epson p600 and the grain looked great. when I print the same image from QTR the grain has practicaly disapeared, any idea on why that might happen ? the only thin I can think of is maybe some dot gain / ink spread. Other than the lack grain the image looks fairly good.

many thanks again
Ian


P.S. I had a look at your main site, you have some great work on there :)


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