QTR-Quadtone RIP

How feasible is it to use QTR with Epson ultrachromes
on a 7600 for black & white printing.  Primarily for
Epson premium lustre & semigloss papers.  Appreciate
any indication on the resources required as well.

Regards 
l i s l e


	
		
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Thanks John for that concise but comprehensive
response.  
What are your results like of QTR with ultrachrome on
photorag 308g.  
We currently use a Legion photo matte with the
piezography Museum/Selenium on a 4000 via studioprint
at another location.

--- john dean <deanwork2003@...> wrote:

> I use qtr with a 9600 and have learned to achive
> really good results
> on good papers. However in my opinion it is NOT
> feasible at all to try
> to print monochrome work on rc paper with this
> inkset, whether you are
> using qtr or not. What you end up with is horrible
> bronzing of the
> shadows and an inability to control tone color even
> with the PK ink in
> there. No matter what curves you use you end up with
> an ugly brown.
> Now the new Epson K3 printers contain a totally
> different inkset
> altogether and the resuls are outstanding with total
> color neutrality
> possible, awesome black density, and no bronzing. I
> only use
> Ultrachrome with matte media and canvas.
> 
> John
> 
> 
> --- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, l i s l e W a r
> n e r
> <bizroc@y...> wrote:
> >
> > How feasible is it to use QTR with Epson
> ultrachromes
> > on a 7600 for black & white printing.  Primarily
> for
> > Epson premium lustre & semigloss papers. 
> Appreciate
> > any indication on the resources required as well.
> > 
> > Regards 
> > l i s l e
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Very good results on a 9600, and what I like about it is the subtle
toning capability. You need a paper with a good dmax like Innova S
Cotton,etc. Roy's curves are great for the ultrachrome machines. Now I
consider Piezzotone Quads a better solution for the highest end
tonality, primarily in the very lightest values, especially with
Studio Print, but your toning capability is severely limited, and I
need that. The new K3 inksets are even better than UC and since I like
variety in my monochrome I am very excited about this potential,
especially on glossy. For glossy I'm sure this will be the way to go.
I am about to try out the Piezzotone K6 next week and I am hopeful
about this inkset as well. It's by all reports, the smoothest
gradations of them all.

john



--- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, l i s l e W a r n e r
<bizroc@y...> wrote:

>
> Thanks John for that concise but comprehensive
> response.  
> What are your results like of QTR with ultrachrome on
> photorag 308g.  
> We currently use a Legion photo matte with the
> piezography Museum/Selenium on a 4000 via studioprint
> at another location.
> 
> --- john dean <deanwork2003@y...> wrote:
> 
> > I use qtr with a 9600 and have learned to achive
> > really good results
> > on good papers. However in my opinion it is NOT
> > feasible at all to try
> > to print monochrome work on rc paper with this
> > inkset, whether you are
> > using qtr or not. What you end up with is horrible
> > bronzing of the
> > shadows and an inability to control tone color even
> > with the PK ink in
> > there. No matter what curves you use you end up with
> > an ugly brown.
> > Now the new Epson K3 printers contain a totally
> > different inkset
> > altogether and the resuls are outstanding with total
> > color neutrality
> > possible, awesome black density, and no bronzing. I
> > only use
> > Ultrachrome with matte media and canvas.
> > 
> > John
> > 
> > 
> > --- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, l i s l e W a r
> > n e r
> > <bizroc@y...> wrote:
> > >
> > > How feasible is it to use QTR with Epson
> > ultrachromes
> > > on a 7600 for black & white printing.  Primarily
> > for
> > > Epson premium lustre & semigloss papers. 
> > Appreciate
> > > any indication on the resources required as well.
> > > 
> > > Regards 
> > > l i s l e
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 	
> > > 		
> > > __________________________________ 
> > > Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 
> > > http://mail.yahoo.com
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