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QTR Calibration Inquiry...

QTR Calibration Inquiry...

2006-01-24 by cteditions

QTR Group,

I would greatly appreciate anyone who would take the time to look at the scanned image 
of my "inkseperations.tif" print (with densitometer readings in pencil) and the JPEG capture 
of my "Curve Descriptor File" calibration settings and let me know what I am doing wrong.  

Located in the "QTR Calibration" album in Photos on the QTR homepage

I am trying the calibration procedure in OSX and am having serious problems.  I can't 
seem to find anybody to respond to my inquiry… I would greatly appreciate it.  Questions 
concerning the print:

1.  Why aren't ALL the inks printing out?
2.   If only the Black/Grays are supposed to print why do ONLY 2 print instead of 3?
3.  Why does the Black start at 50% and go to 100%?
4.  Why does the LightBlack MAX at 65% and step-down in BOTH directions?

Please help if you can…..

Much appreciation

Cody Thomas

Re: QTR Calibration Inquiry...

2006-01-24 by Piet Weber

Hi Cody and all QTR users,

Yesterday, I posted the same issue in message 1861. Their must be a simple solution to 
this problem that has now become structural. Please help us out.

Piet Weber

--- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, "cteditions" <cteditions@a...> wrote:
>
> QTR Group,
> 
> I would greatly appreciate anyone who would take the time to look at the scanned image 
> of my "inkseperations.tif" print (with densitometer readings in pencil) and the JPEG 
capture 
> of my "Curve Descriptor File" calibration settings and let me know what I am doing 
wrong.  
> 
> Located in the "QTR Calibration" album in Photos on the QTR homepage
> 
> I am trying the calibration procedure in OSX and am having serious problems.  I can't 
> seem to find anybody to respond to my inquiry
 I would greatly appreciate it.  
Questions 
> concerning the print:
> 
> 1.  Why aren't ALL the inks printing out?
> 2.   If only the Black/Grays are supposed to print why do ONLY 2 print instead of 3?
> 3.  Why does the Black start at 50% and go to 100%?
> 4.  Why does the LightBlack MAX at 65% and step-down in BOTH directions?
> 
> Please help if you can
..
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> 
> Much appreciation
> 
> Cody Thomas
>

Re: [QuadtoneRIP] QTR Calibration Inquiry...

2006-01-24 by Carl Schofield

Make sure you have mode set to QuadToneRIP Calibration in the driver,  
Curve 1 and Curve 2 should both be set to none, and Tone Blend should  
be 100-0 for the first calibration print.

Carl Schofield
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On Jan 23, 2006, at 11:30 PM, cteditions wrote:

> QTR Group,
>
> I would greatly appreciate anyone who would take the time to look  
> at the scanned image
> of my "inkseperations.tif" print (with densitometer readings in  
> pencil) and the JPEG capture
> of my "Curve Descriptor File" calibration settings and let me know  
> what I am doing wrong.
>
> Located in the "QTR Calibration" album in Photos on the QTR homepage
>
> I am trying the calibration procedure in OSX and am having serious  
> problems.  I can't
> seem to find anybody to respond to my inquiry… I would greatly  
> appreciate it.  Questions
> concerning the print:
>
> 1.  Why aren't ALL the inks printing out?
> 2.   If only the Black/Grays are supposed to print why do ONLY 2  
> print instead of 3?
> 3.  Why does the Black start at 50% and go to 100%?
> 4.  Why does the LightBlack MAX at 65% and step-down in BOTH  
> directions?
>
> Please help if you can…..
>
> Much appreciation
>
> Cody Thomas
>

Re: QTR Calibration Inquiry...

2006-01-24 by Roy Harrington

Hi Piet and Cody,

Sorry for the delay in info -- I've been away for a while and
am just getting caught up.

I've looked at both of your scans and the printing of a inkseparation in Calibration Mode.

First a little history:
Back several versions on the Mac you needed create a special "calib" profile in order
to set ink limits when printing the inkseparation.psd.   This never existed on the PC
version.  It was an overly complicated way to accomplish a fairly simple need.

So in the process of getting the PC and Mac using more common code the special
calib profiles were dropped in favor of an on-the-fly creation of dummy profiles for
the inkseparation printouts.  To set the ink limit the "Tone Blend" option is now used.
Think of Curve1 as a 100% ink limit and Curve2 as a 0% ink limit -- the blend lets you
pick anything in between. 

----------------

What you both are seeing is the a real profile split into its separate ink parts.
You see the LK come in at the low end and taper off, K comes in at the dark end.
The solution is simple -- just leave the Curve selections at "None" and vary the Tone
Blend to set the ink limits.   You will then see all the inks as raw stepwedges.
One other consideration is that there are a couple different inkseparation files to 
accommodate the greater number of inks in the latest printers.  The smaller ones allow
you to get 2 prints on a letter size paper but the 8 ink one doesn't quite fit.  

Roy

--- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, "Piet Weber" <p.weber@f...> wrote:
>
> Hi Cody and all QTR users,
> 
> Yesterday, I posted the same issue in message 1861. Their must be a simple solution to 
> this problem that has now become structural. Please help us out.
> 
> Piet Weber
> 
> --- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, "cteditions" <cteditions@a...> wrote:
> >
> > QTR Group,
> > 
> > I would greatly appreciate anyone who would take the time to look at the scanned 
image 
> > of my "inkseperations.tif" print (with densitometer readings in pencil) and the JPEG 
> capture 
> > of my "Curve Descriptor File" calibration settings and let me know what I am doing 
> wrong.  
> > 
> > Located in the "QTR Calibration" album in Photos on the QTR homepage
> > 
> > I am trying the calibration procedure in OSX and am having serious problems.  I can't 
> > seem to find anybody to respond to my inquiry
 I would greatly appreciate it.  
> Questions 
> > concerning the print:
> > 
> > 1.  Why aren't ALL the inks printing out?
> > 2.   If only the Black/Grays are supposed to print why do ONLY 2 print instead of 3?
> > 3.  Why does the Black start at 50% and go to 100%?
> > 4.  Why does the LightBlack MAX at 65% and step-down in BOTH directions?
> > 
> > Please help if you can
..
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> > 
> > Much appreciation
> > 
> > Cody Thomas
> >
>

Re: QTR Calibration Inquiry...

2006-01-24 by cteditions

Hi Roy,

Thank you for the response, I will begin to start using your advice to test for better 
calibration/separation prints tonight.  However, is there any article/notes that describe the 
process that you advise in a more thorough and technical manner?

I just can't believe that Piet and myself are the only QTR users that are running OSX Tiger.  
Is there any additional information out there?

Much appreciation

Cody Thomas


--- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, "Roy Harrington" <roy@h...> wrote:
>
> 
> Hi Piet and Cody,
> 
> Sorry for the delay in info -- I've been away for a while and
> am just getting caught up.
> 
> I've looked at both of your scans and the printing of a inkseparation in Calibration 
Mode.
> 
> First a little history:
> Back several versions on the Mac you needed create a special "calib" profile in order
> to set ink limits when printing the inkseparation.psd.   This never existed on the PC
> version.  It was an overly complicated way to accomplish a fairly simple need.
> 
> So in the process of getting the PC and Mac using more common code the special
> calib profiles were dropped in favor of an on-the-fly creation of dummy profiles for
> the inkseparation printouts.  To set the ink limit the "Tone Blend" option is now used.
> Think of Curve1 as a 100% ink limit and Curve2 as a 0% ink limit -- the blend lets you
> pick anything in between. 
> 
> ----------------
> 
> What you both are seeing is the a real profile split into its separate ink parts.
> You see the LK come in at the low end and taper off, K comes in at the dark end.
> The solution is simple -- just leave the Curve selections at "None" and vary the Tone
> Blend to set the ink limits.   You will then see all the inks as raw stepwedges.
> One other consideration is that there are a couple different inkseparation files to 
> accommodate the greater number of inks in the latest printers.  The smaller ones allow
> you to get 2 prints on a letter size paper but the 8 ink one doesn't quite fit.  
> 
> Roy
> 
> --- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, "Piet Weber" <p.weber@f...> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Cody and all QTR users,
> > 
> > Yesterday, I posted the same issue in message 1861. Their must be a simple solution 
to 
> > this problem that has now become structural. Please help us out.
> > 
> > Piet Weber
> > 
> > --- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, "cteditions" <cteditions@a...> wrote:
> > >
> > > QTR Group,
> > > 
> > > I would greatly appreciate anyone who would take the time to look at the scanned 
> image 
> > > of my "inkseperations.tif" print (with densitometer readings in pencil) and the JPEG 
> > capture 
> > > of my "Curve Descriptor File" calibration settings and let me know what I am doing 
> > wrong.  
> > > 
> > > Located in the "QTR Calibration" album in Photos on the QTR homepage
> > > 
> > > I am trying the calibration procedure in OSX and am having serious problems.  I 
can't 
> > > seem to find anybody to respond to my inquiry
 I would greatly appreciate it.  
> > Questions 
> > > concerning the print:
> > > 
> > > 1.  Why aren't ALL the inks printing out?
> > > 2.   If only the Black/Grays are supposed to print why do ONLY 2 print instead of 3?
> > > 3.  Why does the Black start at 50% and go to 100%?
> > > 4.  Why does the LightBlack MAX at 65% and step-down in BOTH directions?
> > > 
> > > Please help if you can
..
Show quoted textHide quoted text
> > > 
> > > Much appreciation
> > > 
> > > Cody Thomas
> > >
> >
>

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