QTR-Quadtone RIP

Hi All,

Here is the problem

I am using the latest rip on a 2200 and a macintosh, when I print  
using quadtone a 9.5 by 6.5 image on letter paper and after the  
complete image is done printing, the printer then spends time moving  
the carriage across the page and across the entire width of the  
printer many times before it ejects the paper out of the printer.  
Often then I left with ink marks on the side of the paper. This does  
not happen with the epson driver... any one else have this problem?  
Any sort of fix?

Best

e.

Eric Smith
eric@...
www.ericsmithphoto.com
510-333-1729

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--- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, Eric Smith <eric@...> wrote:
>
> Hi All,
> 
> Here is the problem
> 
> I am using the latest rip on a 2200 and a macintosh, when I print  
> using quadtone a 9.5 by 6.5 image on letter paper and after the  
> complete image is done printing, the printer then spends time moving  
> the carriage across the page and across the entire width of the  
> printer many times before it ejects the paper out of the printer.  
> Often then I left with ink marks on the side of the paper. This does  
> not happen with the epson driver... any one else have this problem?  
> Any sort of fix?
> 
> Best
> 
> e.
> 
> Eric Smith
> eric@...
> www.ericsmithphoto.com
> 510-333-1729
> 
> ==================
>

The printing is always done with many passes interleaving different jets.  So what
you are describing towards the end of the image is probably just the filling in of the 
bottom edge.  It may not look like much is being printed.

If you are getting ink smeared at the edges of paper that probably means the paper
is not sitting flat.  Curved and heavy papers can cause this, particularly at the end
of a sheet where the rollers don't have as much to grab onto.

Roy

hi Roy,

That is what is weird, it is clear that the driver thinks that there is information to be 
printed, yet there cannot be. The image is exaclly 9.5 X 6.25 on enhanced matte paper 
from epson, it is after the image is completed and in the last 1/4 inch of paper before the 
paper is ejected is when the head make passes across the whole of the printer. Also the 
epson driver does not exhibit this behavior with the exact same image.

Any more information that you need?

e.



--- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, "Roy Harrington" <roy@...> wrote:

>
> --- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, Eric Smith <eric@> wrote:
> >
> > Hi All,
> > 
> > Here is the problem
> > 
> > I am using the latest rip on a 2200 and a macintosh, when I print  
> > using quadtone a 9.5 by 6.5 image on letter paper and after the  
> > complete image is done printing, the printer then spends time moving  
> > the carriage across the page and across the entire width of the  
> > printer many times before it ejects the paper out of the printer.  
> > Often then I left with ink marks on the side of the paper. This does  
> > not happen with the epson driver... any one else have this problem?  
> > Any sort of fix?
> > 
> > Best
> > 
> > e.
> > 
> > Eric Smith
> > eric@
> > www.ericsmithphoto.com
> > 510-333-1729
> > 
> > ==================
> >
> 
> The printing is always done with many passes interleaving different jets.  So what
> you are describing towards the end of the image is probably just the filling in of the 
> bottom edge.  It may not look like much is being printed.
> 
> If you are getting ink smeared at the edges of paper that probably means the paper
> is not sitting flat.  Curved and heavy papers can cause this, particularly at the end
> of a sheet where the rollers don't have as much to grab onto.
> 
> Roy
>

Hi Eric,

I can't duplicate what you are describing.  Are you using the Ordered dither
or something else?  (It's under Printer Feature so you may not have even seen it).
Send me the full list of options used (screen capture may be best).

Roy

--- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, "ericsmithphoto" <eric@...> wrote:
>
> hi Roy,
> 
> That is what is weird, it is clear that the driver thinks that there is information to be 
> printed, yet there cannot be. The image is exaclly 9.5 X 6.25 on enhanced matte paper 
> from epson, it is after the image is completed and in the last 1/4 inch of paper before 
the 

> paper is ejected is when the head make passes across the whole of the printer. Also the 
> epson driver does not exhibit this behavior with the exact same image.
> 
> Any more information that you need?
> 
> e.
> 
> 
> 
> --- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, "Roy Harrington" <roy@> wrote:
> >
> > --- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, Eric Smith <eric@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi All,
> > > 
> > > Here is the problem
> > > 
> > > I am using the latest rip on a 2200 and a macintosh, when I print  
> > > using quadtone a 9.5 by 6.5 image on letter paper and after the  
> > > complete image is done printing, the printer then spends time moving  
> > > the carriage across the page and across the entire width of the  
> > > printer many times before it ejects the paper out of the printer.  
> > > Often then I left with ink marks on the side of the paper. This does  
> > > not happen with the epson driver... any one else have this problem?  
> > > Any sort of fix?
> > > 
> > > Best
> > > 
> > > e.
> > > 
> > > Eric Smith
> > > eric@
> > > www.ericsmithphoto.com
> > > 510-333-1729
> > > 
> > > ==================
> > >
> > 
> > The printing is always done with many passes interleaving different jets.  So what
> > you are describing towards the end of the image is probably just the filling in of the 
> > bottom edge.  It may not look like much is being printed.
> > 
> > If you are getting ink smeared at the edges of paper that probably means the paper
> > is not sitting flat.  Curved and heavy papers can cause this, particularly at the end
> > of a sheet where the rollers don't have as much to grab onto.
> > 
> > Roy
> >
>

Roy, I have hit similar artifacts with my 1280 and UT2 inkset using 
Quadtone RIP. I do use ORDERED dither. Should we try something else?

At 11:59 AM 7/17/2006, Roy Harrington wrote:

>Hi Eric,
>
>I can't duplicate what you are describing. Are you using the Ordered dither
>or something else? (It's under Printer Feature so you may not have even 
>seen it).
>Send me the full list of options used (screen capture may be best).
>
>Roy
>
>--- In <mailto:QuadtoneRIP%40yahoogroups.com>QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, 
>"ericsmithphoto" <eric@...> wrote:
> >
> > hi Roy,
> >
> > That is what is weird, it is clear that the driver thinks that there is 
> information to be
> > printed, yet there cannot be. The image is exaclly 9.5 X 6.25 on 
> enhanced matte paper
> > from epson, it is after the image is completed and in the last 1/4 inch 
> of paper before
>the
> > paper is ejected is when the head make passes across the whole of the 
> printer. Also the
> > epson driver does not exhibit this behavior with the exact same image.
> >
> > Any more information that you need?
> >
> > e.

// richard (This email is for mailing lists. To reach me directly, please 
use richard at imagecraft.com)

Ordered Dither is what I would recommend --  I'm just less sure of what 
artifacts
may be possible with Hybrid.  Are you also on a Mac?  Have you upgraded 
to
10.4 recently and just started seeing this?  I have recently found a 
small bug
in the OSX 10.4 print system and I'm concerned that there may be others.
Can be repeat the problem reliably?

Roy


On Monday, July 17, 2006, at 12:11  PM, Richard wrote:

> Roy, I have hit similar artifacts with my 1280 and UT2 inkset using
> Quadtone RIP. I do use ORDERED dither. Should we try something else?
>
> At 11:59 AM 7/17/2006, Roy Harrington wrote:
>
>> Hi Eric,
>>
>> I can't duplicate what you are describing. Are you using the Ordered 
>> dither
>> or something else? (It's under Printer Feature so you may not have 
>> even
>> seen it).
>> Send me the full list of options used (screen capture may be best).
>>
>> Roy
>>
>> --- In 
>> <mailto:QuadtoneRIP%40yahoogroups.com>QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com,
>> "ericsmithphoto" <eric@...> wrote:
>>>
>>> hi Roy,
>>>
>>> That is what is weird, it is clear that the driver thinks that there 
>>> is
>> information to be
>>> printed, yet there cannot be. The image is exaclly 9.5 X 6.25 on
>> enhanced matte paper
>>> from epson, it is after the image is completed and in the last 1/4 
>>> inch
>> of paper before
>> the
>>> paper is ejected is when the head make passes across the whole of the
>> printer. Also the
>>> epson driver does not exhibit this behavior with the exact same 
>>> image.
>>>
>>> Any more information that you need?
>>>
>>> e.
>
> // richard (This email is for mailing lists. To reach me directly, 
> please
> use richard at imagecraft.com)
>
>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
-
Roy Harrington
roy@...
Black & White Photo Gallery
http://www.harrington.com

I'm getting the exact same problem Eric is getting.  I'm using Mac OS 10.4.8.  When the 
2200 reaches the final 1/4 inch, it pauses, and then the printer head starts to go from one 
end to the other.  If the paper is not completely flat, it will catch on the edges and wrinkle 
the paper.  I'm not seeing this with Epson driver.

The image quality from this driver is great.  I just wish there's a way to get around this 
problem.

Thanks.

John

--- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, Roy Harrington <roy@...> wrote:

>
> Ordered Dither is what I would recommend --  I'm just less sure of what 
> artifacts
> may be possible with Hybrid.  Are you also on a Mac?  Have you upgraded 
> to
> 10.4 recently and just started seeing this?  I have recently found a 
> small bug
> in the OSX 10.4 print system and I'm concerned that there may be others.
> Can be repeat the problem reliably?
> 
> Roy
> 
> 
> On Monday, July 17, 2006, at 12:11  PM, Richard wrote:
> 
> > Roy, I have hit similar artifacts with my 1280 and UT2 inkset using
> > Quadtone RIP. I do use ORDERED dither. Should we try something else?
> >
> > At 11:59 AM 7/17/2006, Roy Harrington wrote:
> >
> >> Hi Eric,
> >>
> >> I can't duplicate what you are describing. Are you using the Ordered 
> >> dither
> >> or something else? (It's under Printer Feature so you may not have 
> >> even
> >> seen it).
> >> Send me the full list of options used (screen capture may be best).
> >>
> >> Roy
> >>
> >> --- In 
> >> <mailto:QuadtoneRIP%40yahoogroups.com>QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com,
> >> "ericsmithphoto" <eric@> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> hi Roy,
> >>>
> >>> That is what is weird, it is clear that the driver thinks that there 
> >>> is
> >> information to be
> >>> printed, yet there cannot be. The image is exaclly 9.5 X 6.25 on
> >> enhanced matte paper
> >>> from epson, it is after the image is completed and in the last 1/4 
> >>> inch
> >> of paper before
> >> the
> >>> paper is ejected is when the head make passes across the whole of the
> >> printer. Also the
> >>> epson driver does not exhibit this behavior with the exact same 
> >>> image.
> >>>
> >>> Any more information that you need?
> >>>
> >>> e.
> >
> > // richard (This email is for mailing lists. To reach me directly, 
> > please
> > use richard at imagecraft.com)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> -
> Roy Harrington
> roy@...
> Black & White Photo Gallery
> http://www.harrington.com
>

--- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, "johnjkuo" <johnjkuo@...> wrote:
>
> I'm getting the exact same problem Eric is getting.  I'm using Mac OS
10.4.8.  When the
> 2200 reaches the final 1/4 inch, it pauses, and then the printer head
starts to go from one
> end to the other.  If the paper is not completely flat, it will catch
on the edges and wrinkle
> the paper.  I'm not seeing this with Epson driver.
>
> The image quality from this driver is great.  I just wish there's a
way to get around this
> problem.
>
> Thanks.
>
> John
>
> --- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, Roy Harrington roy@ wrote:
> >
> > Ordered Dither is what I would recommend --  I'm just less sure of
what
> > artifacts
> > may be possible with Hybrid.  Are you also on a Mac?  Have you
upgraded
> > to
> > 10.4 recently and just started seeing this?  I have recently found a
> > small bug
> > in the OSX 10.4 print system and I'm concerned that there may be
others.
> > Can be repeat the problem reliably?
> >
> > Roy
> >
> >
> > On Monday, July 17, 2006, at 12:11  PM, Richard wrote:
> >
> > > Roy, I have hit similar artifacts with my 1280 and UT2 inkset
using
> > > Quadtone RIP. I do use ORDERED dither. Should we try something
else?
> > >
> > > At 11:59 AM 7/17/2006, Roy Harrington wrote:
> > >
> > >> Hi Eric,
> > >>
> > >> I can't duplicate what you are describing. Are you using the
Ordered
> > >> dither
> > >> or something else? (It's under Printer Feature so you may not
have
> > >> even
> > >> seen it).
> > >> Send me the full list of options used (screen capture may be
best).
> > >>
> > >> Roy
> > >>
> > >> --- In
> > >>
<mailto:QuadtoneRIP%40yahoogroups.com>QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com,
> > >> "ericsmithphoto" <eric@> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> hi Roy,
> > >>>
> > >>> That is what is weird, it is clear that the driver thinks that
there
> > >>> is
> > >> information to be
> > >>> printed, yet there cannot be. The image is exaclly 9.5 X 6.25 on
> > >> enhanced matte paper
> > >>> from epson, it is after the image is completed and in the last
1/4
> > >>> inch
> > >> of paper before
> > >> the
> > >>> paper is ejected is when the head make passes across the whole
of the

> > >> printer. Also the
> > >>> epson driver does not exhibit this behavior with the exact same
> > >>> image.
> > >>>
> > >>> Any more information that you need?
> > >>>
> > >>> e.
> > >
> > > // richard (This email is for mailing lists. To reach me directly,
> > > please
> > > use richard at imagecraft.com)
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > -
> > Roy Harrington
> > roy@
> > Black & White Photo Gallery
> > http://www.harrington.com
> >
>

Hi All,

I just joined in.  I am planning to dedicate my Epson 4000 to B&W  
only, & plan to get the new 3800 for color.

My question is , which ink sets seem to be in favor?  MIS  vs  
Piezograhy?  I am in NEw England, so tend to like buying local.

I tend to lean toward the neutral ink sets, but wonder if anyone has  
tried the SplitTone inks, from InkjetMall  &/or if they actually can  
be used.

Thanks All,

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