QTR-Quadtone RIP

This NoBlack profile was mentioned in an earlier post from Carl 
Schofield.

Can somebody direct me to the place where I can find this profiles or 
learn more about it?

Perhaps this is the solution for my bronzing on Epson SemiGloss with UC-
inks?

Any other suggestion what to do and/or use is very welcome.

remko

The NoBlack profile (for Epson 2200/2100) is in the profiles folder  
for the 2200/2100 printers with the install script.  I don't know if  
it will help with UC bronzing on semigloss or not - give it a try or  
better yet get rid of the UC inks and use the MIS Pro or K4 inks  
instead.

Carl

On Oct 18, 2006, at 2:33 PM, remkopieter wrote:

> This NoBlack profile was mentioned in an earlier post from Carl
> Schofield.
>
> Can somebody direct me to the place where I can find this profiles or
> learn more about it?
>
> Perhaps this is the solution for my bronzing on Epson SemiGloss  
> with UC-
> inks?
>
> Any other suggestion what to do and/or use is very welcome.
>
> remko

after installing the latest version I found the profiles. I was still 
working under an older version. After giving it a try I will change 
to MIS Pro with a CIS-system.

Thanks for your help, Carl.


remko



--- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, Carl Schofield <list@...> wrote:
>
> The NoBlack profile (for Epson 2200/2100) is in the profiles 
folder  
> for the 2200/2100 printers with the install script.  I don't know 
if  
> it will help with UC bronzing on semigloss or not - give it a try 
or  
> better yet get rid of the UC inks and use the MIS Pro or K4 inks  
> instead.
> 
> Carl
> 
> On Oct 18, 2006, at 2:33 PM, remkopieter wrote:
> 
> > This NoBlack profile was mentioned in an earlier post from Carl
> > Schofield.
> >
> > Can somebody direct me to the place where I can find this 
profiles or

> > learn more about it?
> >
> > Perhaps this is the solution for my bronzing on Epson SemiGloss  
> > with UC-
> > inks?
> >
> > Any other suggestion what to do and/or use is very welcome.
> >
> > remko
>

Carl,

when using the MISPro ink do I have to choose the MIS UT7 profiles?


remko



--- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, Carl Schofield <list@...> wrote:
>
> The NoBlack profile (for Epson 2200/2100) is in the profiles 
folder  
> for the 2200/2100 printers with the install script.  I don't know 
if  
> it will help with UC bronzing on semigloss or not - give it a try 
or  
> better yet get rid of the UC inks and use the MIS Pro or K4 inks  
> instead.
> 
> Carl
> 
> On Oct 18, 2006, at 2:33 PM, remkopieter wrote:
> 
> > This NoBlack profile was mentioned in an earlier post from Carl
> > Schofield.
> >
> > Can somebody direct me to the place where I can find this 
profiles or

> > learn more about it?
> >
> > Perhaps this is the solution for my bronzing on Epson SemiGloss  
> > with UC-
> > inks?
> >
> > Any other suggestion what to do and/or use is very welcome.
> >
> > remko
>

No, the MIS Pro inks are equivalent to the Epson UC inks.  Use the UC  
profiles and re-linearize as necessary.

Carl

On Oct 18, 2006, at 5:42 PM, remkopieter wrote:

> Carl,
>
> when using the MISPro ink do I have to choose the MIS UT7 profiles?
>
>
> remko
>
>
>
> --- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, Carl Schofield <list@...> wrote:
>>
>> The NoBlack profile (for Epson 2200/2100) is in the profiles
> folder
>> for the 2200/2100 printers with the install script.  I don't know
> if
>> it will help with UC bronzing on semigloss or not - give it a try
> or
>> better yet get rid of the UC inks and use the MIS Pro or K4 inks
>> instead.
>>
>> Carl
>>
>> On Oct 18, 2006, at 2:33 PM, remkopieter wrote:
>>
>>> This NoBlack profile was mentioned in an earlier post from Carl
>>> Schofield.
>>>
>>> Can somebody direct me to the place where I can find this
> profiles or
>>> learn more about it?
>>>
>>> Perhaps this is the solution for my bronzing on Epson SemiGloss
>>> with UC-
>>> inks?
>>>
>>> Any other suggestion what to do and/or use is very welcome.
>>>
>>> remko

I still had a lot of bronzing with the MIS-PRO inks. I got really good
results replacing the yellow cartridge in the MIS PRO inkset with gloss
optimizer though. I have some QTR profiles for that on my site.

Now I use the UT7 inkset with gloss optimizer in the yellow position. No
bronzing. 

--
Daniel Staver
http://daniel.staver.no

> after installing the latest version I found the profiles. I 
> was still working under an older version. After giving it a 
> try I will change to MIS Pro with a CIS-system.

Daniel,

what is the reason you changed back to the UT7 inks? I assumed the 
MISpro is a newer inkset?

and if you use the GLOP in the yellow position can you swob between the 
GLOP and Yellow as with the Photo- Matte- and Eboni-black inks?




--- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, "Daniel Staver" <daniel@...> wrote:
>
> I still had a lot of bronzing with the MIS-PRO inks. I got really good
> results replacing the yellow cartridge in the MIS PRO inkset with 
gloss
> optimizer though. I have some QTR profiles for that on my site.
> 
> Now I use the UT7 inkset with gloss optimizer in the yellow position. 
No

> bronzing. 
> 
> --
> Daniel Staver
> http://daniel.staver.no
> 
> > after installing the latest version I found the profiles. I 
> > was still working under an older version. After giving it a 
> > try I will change to MIS Pro with a CIS-system.
>

The MIS Pro inkset is a color inkset and has only one gray ink, like the
original Ultrachrome inkset.

The UT7 inkset has two carbon gray inks and two cool toner inks. This
primarily gives smoother highlights. The UT7 inkset also has MUCH less
bronzing and gloss differential on glossy papers than the Ultrachrome inkset
or the MIS PRO inkset. It's comparable to what you will get with the new KR
inkset in the new Epson 2400 and x800 printers. If you add gloss optimizer
in the yellow position even the little gloss differential that's left is
removed. 

I don't print much color anymore, so I prefer to use a dedicated BW inkset
in my printer. The UT7 inks has worked reliably for me for a long time now,
and I've built a collection of profiles for the papers I use most, so I'm
reluctant to switch to anything else.

It's easy to switch the cartridges back and forth. You will need to print a
few sheets of yellow when you switch to GLOP to get rid of the yellow tone. 

--
Daniel Staver
http://daniel.staver.no

> -----Original Message-----
> From: QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com 
> [mailto:QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of remkopieter
> Sent: 19. oktober 2006 14:17
> To: QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [QuadtoneRIP] Re: NoBlack profiles 2100
> 
> Daniel,
> 
> what is the reason you changed back to the UT7 inks? I 
> assumed the MISpro is a newer inkset?
> 
> and if you use the GLOP in the yellow position can you swob 
> between the GLOP and Yellow as with the Photo- Matte- and 
> Eboni-black inks?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, "Daniel Staver" 
> <daniel@...> wrote:
> >
> > I still had a lot of bronzing with the MIS-PRO inks. I got 
> really good
> > results replacing the yellow cartridge in the MIS PRO inkset with 
> gloss
> > optimizer though. I have some QTR profiles for that on my site.
> > 
> > Now I use the UT7 inkset with gloss optimizer in the yellow 
> position. 
> No
> > bronzing. 
> > 
> > --
> > Daniel Staver
> > http://daniel.staver.no
> > 
> > > after installing the latest version I found the profiles. I 
> > > was still working under an older version. After giving it a 
> > > try I will change to MIS Pro with a CIS-system.
> >
> 
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