QTR-Quadtone RIP

The thing now prints beautiful BW, but refuses to print color. Did the following:
Selected Stylus Photo 2200
Followed normal pre-quadtone workflow
Message from printer:
Your printer has a different cartridge setup/order than when it was originally installed.
Followed instructions to delete printer from printer utility and re-add.
Same message.
Anybody know what's going on?
francois camoin

I hate to ask this question, are you trying to print color using QTR?
It's only for B&W. 

--- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, "francoiscamoin" <camoin22@...> wrote:
>
> The thing now prints beautiful BW, but refuses to print color. Did
the following:
> Selected Stylus Photo 2200
> Followed normal pre-quadtone workflow
> Message from printer:
> Your printer has a different cartridge setup/order than when it was
originally installed.

> Followed instructions to delete printer from printer utility and re-add.
> Same message.
> Anybody know what's going on?
> francois camoin
>

--- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, "djon43" <djon43@...> wrote:
>
> 
> I hate to ask this question, are you trying to print color using QTR?
> It's only for B&W. 
> 
> --- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, "francoiscamoin" <camoin22@> wrote:
> >
> > The thing now prints beautiful BW, but refuses to print color. Did
> the following:
> > Selected Stylus Photo 2200
> > Followed normal pre-quadtone workflow
> > Message from printer:
> > Your printer has a different cartridge setup/order than when it was
> originally installed.
> > Followed instructions to delete printer from printer utility and
re-add.
> > Same message.
> > Anybody know what's going on?
> > francois camoin
> >
>
I'm pretty sure I changed all the settings back to non-Quadtone
settings. I did finally resurrect the color printing by switching back
to Adobe CS2 from the CS3 beta. I suspect CS3 isn't playing nice with
Quadtone at this point. Anyone else having trouble with it?
francois

The 2200 allows 2 kinds of black ink -- Matte Black and Photo Black.
An instance of the Epson driver is tied to one black only.   If you 
switch
blacks you need to re-install the Epson driver.   If you'd like you can
name them differently "Stylus Photo 2200 PK" and "Stylus Photo 2200 MK".

Roy

On Monday, March 19, 2007, at 11:14  AM, francoiscamoin wrote:

> The thing now prints beautiful BW, but refuses to print color. Did the 
> following:
> Selected Stylus Photo 2200
> Followed normal pre-quadtone workflow
> Message from printer:
> Your printer has a different cartridge setup/order than when it was 
> originally installed.
> Followed instructions to delete printer from printer utility and 
> re-add.
> Same message.
> Anybody know what's going on?
> francois camoin
>
>
-
Roy Harrington
roy@...
Black & White Photo Gallery
http://www.harrington.com

Roy's comment about uninstalling and reinstalling printer drivers seemed odd 
to me so I looked up my Epsonn Stylus 2200 instruction manual available 
here:

http://ftp.epson.com/pdf/pho22_/pho22_pb.pdf

Please see pages 64 and 65 (bottom of the pdf pages).

On windows this doesn't seem to be necessary whereas on the Mac it depends 
on the OS version you are running. For OS X 10.x you seem to have to remove 
and re-add the printer from the Print Center only whereas for OS 8.6 to 9.x 
seems to require playing around with the Chooser.

I've been using PCs for a long time now and am considering getting a Mac 
next time around. From my perspective this seems unusually unintuitive for a 
Mac. Are there other little gotchas that a future Mac ex PC user might have 
to worry about?

Cheers,
Pierre

From: Roy Harrington <roy@...>
Reply-To: QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com
To: QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [QuadtoneRIP] Color printing after installin quadtone rip on 
2200

The 2200 allows 2 kinds of black ink -- Matte Black and Photo Black.
An instance of the Epson driver is tied to one black only. If you
switch
blacks you need to re-install the Epson driver. If you'd like you can
name them differently "Stylus Photo 2200 PK" and "Stylus Photo 2200 MK".

Roy

On Monday, March 19, 2007, at 11:14 AM, francoiscamoin wrote:

>The thing now prints beautiful BW, but refuses to print color. Did the 
>following:
>Selected Stylus Photo 2200
>Followed normal pre-quadtone workflow
>Message from printer:
>Your printer has a different cartridge setup/order than when it was 
>originally installed.
>Followed instructions to delete printer from printer utility and re-add.
>Same message.
>Anybody know what's going on?
>francois camoin
>
>
-
Roy Harrington
roy@...
Black & White Photo Gallery
http://www.harrington.com

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I think the point is that you have to "do something" in the software 
when you change inks.
The reason is so the driver can show you the appropriate media 
possibilities.

Roy

On Tuesday, March 20, 2007, at 10:31  AM, Pierre Archambault wrote:

> Roy's comment about uninstalling and reinstalling printer drivers 
> seemed odd
> to me so I looked up my Epsonn Stylus 2200 instruction manual available
> here:
>
> http://ftp.epson.com/pdf/pho22_/pho22_pb.pdf
>
> Please see pages 64 and 65 (bottom of the pdf pages).
>
> On windows this doesn't seem to be necessary whereas on the Mac it 
> depends
> on the OS version you are running. For OS X 10.x you seem to have to 
> remove
> and re-add the printer from the Print Center only whereas for OS 8.6 
> to 9.x
> seems to require playing around with the Chooser.
>
> I've been using PCs for a long time now and am considering getting a 
> Mac
> next time around. From my perspective this seems unusually unintuitive 
> for a
> Mac. Are there other little gotchas that a future Mac ex PC user might 
> have
> to worry about?
>
> Cheers,
> Pierre
>
> From: Roy Harrington <roy@...>
> Reply-To: QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com
> To: QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [QuadtoneRIP] Color printing after installin quadtone rip 
> on
> 2200
>
> The 2200 allows 2 kinds of black ink -- Matte Black and Photo Black.
> An instance of the Epson driver is tied to one black only. If you
> switch
> blacks you need to re-install the Epson driver. If you'd like you can
> name them differently "Stylus Photo 2200 PK" and "Stylus Photo 2200 
> MK".
>
> Roy
>
> On Monday, March 19, 2007, at 11:14 AM, francoiscamoin wrote:
>
>> The thing now prints beautiful BW, but refuses to print color. Did the
>> following:
>> Selected Stylus Photo 2200
>> Followed normal pre-quadtone workflow
>> Message from printer:
>> Your printer has a different cartridge setup/order than when it was
>> originally installed.
>> Followed instructions to delete printer from printer utility and 
>> re-add.
>> Same message.
>> Anybody know what's going on?
>> francois camoin
>>
>>
> -
> Roy Harrington
> roy@...
> Black & White Photo Gallery
> http://www.harrington.com
>
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Uninstall/reinstall isn't needed with XP.

If I've been using QTR to simulate B&W and then I want to print 
color, all I have to do is exit QTR, select my color file in 
Photoshop, and the the system will automatically use the Epson 
(color) driver.  

My PC drives three printers: two 2200 and one Brother (for 
correspondence). I instructed the system to default first to the 
Brother because that's used constantly in my business.

To print photos I simply select one of the two 2200 (all three 
printers are listed in the printer dialogue box). Both 2200 
default to the Epson driver, but I can switch to QTR for either one 
simply by selecting QTR for it. 

One 2200 uses Epson pigment only , the other uses MIS UT-7 B&W ink 
only. One is called "color" and the other is called "B&W" in the 
printer dialogue box.

I happen to prefer the Epson driver for the B&W ink and the QTR 
driver if I insist on using the color printer to simulate B&W. But 
both printers default to the Epson driver, so I have to specifically 
select QTR if that's what I want to use. 

If Mac makes this difficult, you probably need two Macs :-)


--- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, Roy Harrington <roy@...> wrote:
>
> I think the point is that you have to "do something" in the 
software 
> when you change inks.
> The reason is so the driver can show you the appropriate media 
> possibilities.
> 
> Roy
> 
> On Tuesday, March 20, 2007, at 10:31  AM, Pierre Archambault wrote:
> 
> > Roy's comment about uninstalling and reinstalling printer drivers 
> > seemed odd
> > to me so I looked up my Epsonn Stylus 2200 instruction manual 
available
> > here:
> >
> > http://ftp.epson.com/pdf/pho22_/pho22_pb.pdf
> >
> > Please see pages 64 and 65 (bottom of the pdf pages).
> >
> > On windows this doesn't seem to be necessary whereas on the Mac 
it 
> > depends
> > on the OS version you are running. For OS X 10.x you seem to have 
to 
> > remove
> > and re-add the printer from the Print Center only whereas for OS 
8.6 
> > to 9.x
> > seems to require playing around with the Chooser.
> >
> > I've been using PCs for a long time now and am considering 
getting a 
> > Mac
> > next time around. From my perspective this seems unusually 
unintuitive 
> > for a
> > Mac. Are there other little gotchas that a future Mac ex PC user 
might 

> > have
> > to worry about?
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Pierre
>

Pierre Archambault <ve2caz@...> wrote:

> I've been using PCs for a long time now and am considering getting a Mac
> next time around. From my perspective this seems unusually unintuitive for a
> Mac. Are there other little gotchas that a future Mac ex PC user might have
> to worry about?

The problem appears to be that Epson can't be bothered to write good drivers for the Mac.  From what I've read, they have a long history of treating Mac users as third-class customers.  So yes, the situation with PK vs. MK on the Mac is counter-intuitive but manageable.  

So you're happily printing along from QTR using PK and you decide to switch to MK.  No problem.  You're done printing matte and ready to switch back when you encounter this error, right?  Not to worry.  If you're reading this before you run into the problem, you're in luck -- just start at step 2 below.  If not, you'll burn a little extra ink.  

1.  Re-install the MK ink
2.  Delete the printer from your Print & Fax preference pane
3.  Configure a "new" 2200 just like the one you deleted, but use a name that tells you it's for MK ink (e.g. Stylus Photo 2200 MK).  It may complain that a queue for this printer already exists but tell it to create anyway.
4.  Switch to PK ink
5.  Configure a "new" 2200 and name it so-as to indicate PK ink.  Again, don't worry if it complains about already having a queue for that printer.

Now when you print, just select the "printer" that uses whichever ink you have installed at the time.  <rant>It's an inelegant solution for sure, but as more people switch to the Mac (like I did and like you probably will) I predict Epson management will eventually pull its metaphorical head out of its metaphorical arse and dedicate some resources toward better Mac drivers.</rant>  That said, the only other problem I've run into is that the 2200 doesn't work worth a flip trying to connect to a Mac via Firewire.  My hunch is that's also a driver issue since it works quite well under Windows.  Not a big deal since I prefer to leave the only FW port on my 12" PowerBook available for external hard drives and a high-speed card reader.

Hope this helps.
73,
Kyle




 
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Thanks for the information Kyle. These are golden nuggets I will store away
for when I make the jump.

73,
Pierre

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From: QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com [mailto:QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Kyle Rhorer
Sent: March 26, 2007 18:25
To: QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [QuadtoneRIP] Color printing after installin quadtone rip on
2200

Pierre Archambault <ve2caz@...> wrote:

> I've been using PCs for a long time now and am considering getting a Mac
> next time around. From my perspective this seems unusually unintuitive for
a
> Mac. Are there other little gotchas that a future Mac ex PC user might
have
> to worry about?

The problem appears to be that Epson can't be bothered to write good drivers
for the Mac. From what I've read, they have a long history of treating Mac
users as third-class customers. So yes, the situation with PK vs. MK on the
Mac is counter-intuitive but manageable. 

So you're happily printing along from QTR using PK and you decide to switch
to MK. No problem. You're done printing matte and ready to switch back when
you encounter this error, right? Not to worry. If you're reading this before
you run into the problem, you're in luck -- just start at step 2 below. If
not, you'll burn a little extra ink. 

1. Re-install the MK ink
2. Delete the printer from your Print & Fax preference pane
3. Configure a "new" 2200 just like the one you deleted, but use a name that
tells you it's for MK ink (e.g. Stylus Photo 2200 MK). It may complain that
a queue for this printer already exists but tell it to create anyway.
4. Switch to PK ink
5. Configure a "new" 2200 and name it so-as to indicate PK ink. Again, don't
worry if it complains about already having a queue for that printer.

Now when you print, just select the "printer" that uses whichever ink you
have installed at the time. <rant>It's an inelegant solution for sure, but
as more people switch to the Mac (like I did and like you probably will) I
predict Epson management will eventually pull its metaphorical head out of
its metaphorical arse and dedicate some resources toward better Mac
drivers.</rant> That said, the only other problem I've run into is that the
2200 doesn't work worth a flip trying to connect to a Mac via Firewire. My
hunch is that's also a driver issue since it works quite well under Windows.
Not a big deal since I prefer to leave the only FW port on my 12" PowerBook
available for external hard drives and a high-speed card reader.

Hope this helps.
73,
Kyle