QTR-Quadtone RIP

Hi,
New to the group and I have a basic question.
New to QTR and the K6 inks.
Using Photoshop CS3
Epson 1280
What should my setup be??
IMAGE: Grayscale Gamma 2.2? or RGB?
Print Settings? Printer determine color? Rendering Intent? etc...
I also am using Aperture which creates great 'monochrome'-rgb files.
Would it be better to print these with the QTR-RGB Profiles?
Any input would be great.
Thanks,
Steve

http://www.piezography.com/support/default.htm

most of this is there.

--- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, "enggass" <enggass@...> wrote:

>
> Hi,
> New to the group and I have a basic question.
> New to QTR and the K6 inks.
> Using Photoshop CS3
> Epson 1280
> What should my setup be??
> IMAGE: Grayscale Gamma 2.2? or RGB?
> Print Settings? Printer determine color? Rendering Intent? etc...
> I also am using Aperture which creates great 'monochrome'-rgb files.
> Would it be better to print these with the QTR-RGB Profiles?
> Any input would be great.
> Thanks,
> Steve
>

Thanks.
I was hoping for some tips. I am not getting great results with this setup.
Images lack punch! Any suggestions? Also, why does QTR include QTR-RGB profiles?
When I select one of these with a monochrome RGB image, it will not print.
Thanks,
Steve

--- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, "Tyler Boley" <tyler@...> wrote:

>
> http://www.piezography.com/support/default.htm
> 
> most of this is there.
> 
> --- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, "enggass" <enggass@> wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> > New to the group and I have a basic question.
> > New to QTR and the K6 inks.
> > Using Photoshop CS3
> > Epson 1280
> > What should my setup be??
> > IMAGE: Grayscale Gamma 2.2? or RGB?
> > Print Settings? Printer determine color? Rendering Intent? etc...
> > I also am using Aperture which creates great 'monochrome'-rgb files.
> > Would it be better to print these with the QTR-RGB Profiles?
> > Any input would be great.
> > Thanks,
> > Steve
> >
>

the ONLY profiles (Not icc profiles) that come with QTR relevant to
the piezography systems like yours are those that start with K6, or K7
in their names. 

Someone else will have to pipe in about why what you tried won't
print, but even if it did it would be incorrect for the setup you have
asked about.

Regarding punch, I hear this a lot. It's a very open system in terms
of gradation all through the scale, you need to have a good monitor to
print match, and edit the snap into your files if that's what you want
from the print.

Tyler

--- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, "enggass" <enggass@...> wrote:
>
> Thanks.
> I was hoping for some tips. I am not getting great results with this
setup.
> Images lack punch! Any suggestions? Also, why does QTR include
QTR-RGB profiles?
> When I select one of these with a monochrome RGB image, it will not
print.

> Thanks,
> Steve
> 
> --- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, "Tyler Boley" <tyler@> wrote:
> >
> > http://www.piezography.com/support/default.htm
> > 
> > most of this is there.
> > 
> > --- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, "enggass" <enggass@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > > New to the group and I have a basic question.
> > > New to QTR and the K6 inks.
> > > Using Photoshop CS3
> > > Epson 1280
> > > What should my setup be??
> > > IMAGE: Grayscale Gamma 2.2? or RGB?
> > > Print Settings? Printer determine color? Rendering Intent? etc...
> > > I also am using Aperture which creates great 'monochrome'-rgb files.
> > > Would it be better to print these with the QTR-RGB Profiles?
> > > Any input would be great.
> > > Thanks,
> > > Steve
> > >
> >
>

You may want to be a bit more careful with your manipulations and move
into gray scale - your adjustments should be as non destructive as
possible- lots of good ways to do this - check out Amadou Diallo's book
Digital Black and White - leave your files in RGB,- moving to grayscale
by desaturating will be your best bet for preserving image quality -
last place for manipulation would be some tweaking of the curve blends
in QTR - However a properly edited image with the K6 curves provided and
no further adjustment have been printing well on my 1280 in a school lab
for the past two years  - This is a wonderful RIP - it cannot make up
for heavy handed or sloppy image manipulaton
 
Berel Lutsky
Associate Professor of Art
University of Wisconsin - Manitowoc
blutsky@...
920-683-4735
Fax: 920-683-4776
 


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That was a good piece of advice to hear.  Can you --at some free point--expand on this:
   
  leave your files in RGB,- moving to grayscale
by desaturating will be your best bet for preserving image quality -
last place for manipulation would be some tweaking of the curve blends
in QTR

       
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Thanks Berel,
So I assume you are using the Gray Gamma 2.2 from Photoshop? Suggested by the Piezo 
site instructions? Are you on a mac? Don't you find that using that profile darkens the 
image quite a bit considering that the native Gamma for Mac is 1.8?
Or you printing an RGB file? If so, how?
May I ask what exactly you workflow is? Settings? I am fairly proficient with the mac, just 
new to this...
Thanks,
Steve
--- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, "Lutsky, Berel" <berel.lutsky@...> wrote:

>
> You may want to be a bit more careful with your manipulations and move
> into gray scale - your adjustments should be as non destructive as
> possible- lots of good ways to do this - check out Amadou Diallo's book
> Digital Black and White - leave your files in RGB,- moving to grayscale
> by desaturating will be your best bet for preserving image quality -
> last place for manipulation would be some tweaking of the curve blends
> in QTR - However a properly edited image with the K6 curves provided and
> no further adjustment have been printing well on my 1280 in a school lab
> for the past two years  - This is a wonderful RIP - it cannot make up
> for heavy handed or sloppy image manipulaton
>  
> Berel Lutsky
> Associate Professor of Art
> University of Wisconsin - Manitowoc
> blutsky@...
> 920-683-4735
> Fax: 920-683-4776
>  
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>